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12-13-2008, 11:20 AM
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Jitterbug and Nerves return for another round of nonsense. They are not well-rested, not sober, but ready for Talkingship#3!


Jager Start!
A very quick political statement about the drinking age.
Xbox 360 gets a facelift. What do we think?
Jitterbug doesn’t like Nerves’ avatar.
Nerves is Angry Hippie on Xbox. Play with him.
Jitterbug is Jitbug333 on Xbox. Play with him!
Trism allows its creator to quit his job.
Do you want an i-Phone?
Is the N-Gage coming back? Wha???
Is the Zune any good? Someone let us know.
Nerves finished Rock Band 2 and tells us about it.
What game should Jitterbug sell?
The NEW SGCP-Talking Ship Segment: Thread the Needle! We ask an insane question in the SG Forums and wait to see the hilarious results!
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djdsf
12-13-2008, 11:59 AM
I loved it. Really funny stuff.

regua
12-13-2008, 12:18 PM
The iPhone may not be the best phone out there, but it's definitely not the worst one. While I wouldn't suggest it to someone who makes a few hundred phone calls a day, it's a perfect multi-functional PDA for a casual user. There've also been a lot of good iGames coming out recently, making it a great gaming companion.

Once again a great show, guys.

Talkingship
12-13-2008, 01:24 PM
The iPhone may not be the best phone out there, but it's definitely not the worst one. While I wouldn't suggest it to someone who makes a few hundred phone calls a day, it's a perfect multi-functional PDA for a casual user. There've also been a lot of good iGames coming out recently, making it a great gaming companion.

Once again a great show, guys.

Glad you guys enjoyed it. Has anyone used Verizon's new version of the i-phone? I've heard good things about it.

djdsf
12-13-2008, 01:39 PM
Glad you guys enjoyed it. Has anyone used Verizon's new version of the i-phone? I've heard good things about it.

The Blackberry Storm?

That thing is crap and I feel sorry for the Blackberry brand now that they have sunk so low as to put their name in a shinny turd.

I actually got it and then went back to my Voyager.

Talkingship
12-13-2008, 01:43 PM
Oh wow. Would you recommend the Voyager?

djdsf
12-13-2008, 01:57 PM
Oh wow. Would you recommend the Voyager?

Yeah, you have more control over what you do on the Voyager than what you do on the Storm, I had a Voyager since it came out and I am really happy with it.

Also, if you want to see what people are saying about the storm, look at these 2 links:

Link. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/technology/personaltech/04pogue-email.html?_r=2)

Link. (http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/12/the-votes-are-i.html)

Talkingship
12-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Yeah, you have more control over what you do on the Voyager than what you do on the Storm, I had a Voyager since it came out and I am really happy with it.

Also, if you want to see what people are saying about the storm, look at these 2 links:

Link. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/technology/personaltech/04pogue-email.html?_r=2)

Link. (http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/12/the-votes-are-i.html)

Dang! I didn't realize it was getting reviews that bad!! I'm glad I didn't jump the gun and buy that crap. Thanks for the heads-up.

djdsf
12-13-2008, 02:14 PM
Dang! I didn't realize it was getting reviews that bad!! I'm glad I didn't jump the gun and buy that crap. Thanks for the heads-up.

Yeah, no problem. I wish I would have seen the reviews before I bought it. I actually got those links from Godfree after I bought mine.

If you want a phone, I still recommend the Voyager. Is the closes you can get to the iPhone w/o actually buying the iPhone.

Vexrog
12-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Ya the zune is a very good device. Ive used both the zune and the I pod and I have to say the zune kicks the ipod's ass.

Inzader
12-13-2008, 02:23 PM
Wonderful show, guys.
Since you're thread was token down, (Naked game Character)
I'll put mine here:
Sonic The Hedgehog. That Big, Blue C***.

djdsf
12-13-2008, 02:36 PM
I wanna see Mrs. PacMan w/o her bow. :lol:

Talkingship
12-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Ya the zune is a very good device. Ive used both the zune and the I pod and I have to say the zune kicks the ipod's ass.

Hmmm. Is the music quality of the Zune better? I'm a bit of an audiophile, as well as a tech-geek, so knowing that the Zune sounded better would really go a long way to convincing me to get one. But it doesn't seem like Microsoft is doing a good job of marketing that device.

djdsf
12-13-2008, 06:52 PM
Hmmm. Is the music quality of the Zune better? I'm a bit of an audiophile, as well as a tech-geek, so knowing that the Zune sounded better would really go a long way to convincing me to get one. But it doesn't seem like Microsoft is doing a good job of marketing that device.

I actually had an iPod for a very long time and I loved it to death, but then I heard of the Zune from a friend that had it and after listening to it, I made the change from one to another in 3 days and (Apple fan boys will kill me for this) I threw my iPod into the Hudson River because I figured that iPods did not deserve to live.

The Zune has many more features and also the sound quality is great but it actually gets better with the special Zune headphones. I had the older headphones and they sounded a bit better than the iPod and they actually broke, but when I got the Zune headphones, you can clearly hear the difference in the music and they are the best headphones ever.

Plus, all the songs you want from the Zune Marketplace for $15 and since both of you guys :heart: music, I think both of you will enjoy the wireless sharing of music from 1 Zune to another.

Also, let's say you are traveling from where you are to somewhere else, like New York or Texas or w/e, you can turn your wireless on the airport and download songs trough the Zune Marketplace.

Talkingship
12-13-2008, 09:42 PM
Is it easy to transfer the music I've bought through i-tunes over to the Zune?

djdsf
12-13-2008, 09:47 PM
Is it easy to transfer the music I've bought through i-tunes over to the Zune?

Since you bought it, it must be saved in a folder somewhere in your HD. When you get a Zune, you plug it in, get the software update, then tell it to search for all the music in your PC and Sync it. after that, sit back, open up some beer and let it be until is done.

Talkingship
12-13-2008, 09:50 PM
Since you bought it, it must be saved in a folder somewhere in your HD. When you get a Zune, you plug it in, get the software update, then tell it to search for all the music in your PC and Sync it. after that, sit back, open up some beer and let it be until is done.

Well, the i-tunes store is infamous for forcing you to limit how many computers can use the music you have bought. It's pretty frickin' lame.

djdsf
12-13-2008, 09:53 PM
Well, the i-tunes store is infamous for forcing you to limit how many computers can use the music you have bought. It's pretty frickin' lame.

Well, just keep iTunes and don't delete it, then just use the Zune software to upload them to your Zune. The software will leach from the folder and it will technically still be in the same PC.

Talkingship
12-14-2008, 01:52 PM
Wow. Quite the controversy stirred up in the other comments section of Talkingship Show #3. A guy named Cadaver Dog said that he hated the community podcasts, but he hadn't listened to Talkingship yet (and I'm guessing he didn't listen to Panda or Resonator either). And I guess he was fighting with Lono too about something or other. But then he sent me a message about how he actually did like the Talkingship show, so who knows. Shame all that fighting happened over at the other comment board, it might have generated a few more hits and interest in the regular forum here!!! Ah well.
Here's my take on the whole thing: Some of the Community Casts sound a little rough right now, but the idea of the SGCP shows wasn't to create a place for only high quality podcasts to be given life. It was created to allow the AWESOME SG Community to speak their minds and hopefully help them learn how to become better at podcasting through constructive criticism and practice. I am impressed by the number of interesting shows that have sprung up out of this venture, and I look forward to hearing all of what you guys have to offer. I also love having the ability to put my big fat mouth and opinions out there for the world to suffer through!!!
Long live the SGCP's, and Merry Chanukhristmakwanza everyone!! Where's the (spiked) eggnog??

8bitBass
12-14-2008, 02:14 PM
I'll bring it here.

I was drinking spiked Eggnog while I was flaming mr negativity. :tongue:

I am touchy about the SGCP (obviously.) All who participate on SGCP work hard on these things.

And when some backseat peanut gallery noob wants to shoot them all down (an opinion which he IS entitled to BTW) but in a non-constructive or even articulate manner (and especially when he admitted that he hasn't checked out your show yet!?) I get a little defensive.

djdsf
12-14-2008, 02:26 PM
TalkingShip!


Sorry.

Talkingship
12-14-2008, 02:32 PM
TalkingShip!


Sorry.

Huh? Sorry for what?

Talkingship
12-14-2008, 02:35 PM
To tell the truth, I am kinda glad all that controversy started! It's not often that you see a segment on the Home page with 20+ comments attached!! There's no such thing as bad publicity, just ask OJ! Wait, that's a bad example...

8bitBass
12-14-2008, 02:40 PM
TalkingShip!


Sorry.

lol he is being non-constructive or even articulate!

djdsf
12-14-2008, 02:46 PM
To tell the truth, I am kinda glad all that controversy started! It's not often that you see a segment on the Home page with 20+ comments attached!!...

Well... (http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2008/11/this-isnt-the-year-of-the-ps3.html)

Talkingship
12-14-2008, 03:42 PM
Well... (http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2008/11/this-isnt-the-year-of-the-ps3.html)

Ha. Leave it to Lono to infuriate the Playstation fanboys!! There's no better way to get a lot of posts than to start a fanboy war!!!

djdsf
12-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Ha. Leave it to Lono to infuriate the Playstation fanboys!! There's no better way to get a lot of posts than to start a fanboy war!!!

Did you actually read every comment in there?

That post was the reason the word fanboy does not work in the front page comments any more.

Talkingship
12-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Did you actually read every comment in there?

That post was the reason the word fanboy does not work in the front page comments any more.

I didn't read them all. If I did I might have taken a rifle shot instead of my usual Jager! :w00t:
I can sympathize with the PS3 lovers, I remember myself in the N64 days railing against the Playstation and how I would never bother to buy a non-true-3d system. I scoffed at the PS, and then I finally broke down and bought one. It was then, while playing the hundreds of excellent PS games that I had been missing out on, that I realized that being a fanboy was detrimental to my own enjoyment of videogames.
However, not being a fanboy has been detrimental to my wallet!!! Buying every system, along with 4 controllers for each, and recharge stations, and games... OY!!! I'm running outta cash here!!!:huh:

djdsf
12-14-2008, 06:35 PM
Save some for a Zune.

The Dutch Don
12-15-2008, 11:50 AM
Another good show fellas! :thumbsup:

I've got an iPhone and I love it! There. Now you know someone who does love his iPhone. And that Trism game is addictive! I play it when travelling with public transport or when my girlfriend is watching something on tv that doesn't interest me.

Talkingship
12-15-2008, 01:42 PM
Another good show fellas! :thumbsup:

I've got an iPhone and I love it! There. Now you know someone who does love his iPhone. And that Trism game is addictive! I play it when travelling with public transport or when my girlfriend is watching something on tv that doesn't interest me.

Man, this brings up a good (and completely off topic) point: My wife HATES it when I play a handheld game or something on my laptop while she is watching a show I hate. She says that it's like I'm not even there, and that I am ignoring her. What's up with that???!!!!???? Psshhhh. Sorry, I don't want to watch Unwrapped on the Food Network.
Okay... I'm done. :tongue:
Mini-rant

Crel
12-16-2008, 02:53 PM
Great job on the podcast guys. Talking ship is my new SGCP fave!

Man, this brings up a good (and completely off topic) point: My wife HATES it when I play a handheld game or something on my laptop while she is watching a show I hate. She says that it's like I'm not even there, and that I am ignoring her. What's up with that???!!!!???? Psshhhh. Sorry, I don't want to watch Unwrapped on the Food Network.
Okay... I'm done. :tongue:
Mini-rant

And on this topic, my wife used to really hate it. I just kept doing it though, and eventually she just gave up nagging about it :evil:

Talkingship
12-16-2008, 03:08 PM
I just kept doing it though, and eventually she just gave up nagging about it :evil:

Ha, that doesn't sound like the best advice ever! :lol:

outcast6
12-16-2008, 08:51 PM
Hey again, another great show! keeping it fresh, clean (Well, guess not...) and powerful! Keep it up!!

Also, i have a Zune, i never got an Ipod, they never interested me, i will not say one is better then the other, but i will say that i prefer the Zune's navigation system more then the Ipod's (I have tried both) i don't like the idea of scrolling around in circles to move up or down. I haven't use the touch sensitive Zune 2, as i am happy with my origin zune, but it sounds better then both the Zune 1 D-pad and Ipod scroll wheel.

Also, there are programs that rips off all the stuff that Itunes adds to there songs, DRM and limitedness and turns 'em into normal MP3s with normal, unlimited use/distribution. (It's how i get my songs, since the Zune market place isn't available outside America...)

Talkingship
12-16-2008, 11:26 PM
@Outcast
I'll have to break down and get one of those i-pod ripping programs. I hate the fact that they limit the music, it seems unnecessary now that Amazon and other places are offering downloads that are yours forever!!

djdsf
12-16-2008, 11:35 PM
...(It's how i get my songs, since the Zune market place isn't available outside America...)

You can trick the system, but you will still need an US creditcard to buy the music, but still get the free music they release from time to time and thepodcast.

All you have to do is head over to your control panel, then go to regional configuration or w/e is called and change your country to the US and presto, you get the Zune Marketplace.

outcast6
12-17-2008, 08:24 AM
You can trick the system, but you will still need an US creditcard to buy the music, but still get the free music they release from time to time and thepodcast.

All you have to do is head over to your control panel, then go to regional configuration or w/e is called and change your country to the US and presto, you get the Zune Marketplace.

Nice bit of info there, thanks for that, however i don't often use any of it, i just add the podcasts using the RSS feed address, and i don't buy much music really, just the odd one here and there... Also, i do not have an American Credit card, do they even issue them to people in England? :undecided: :lol:

DogsDieInHotCars
12-17-2008, 10:13 AM
Love your show guys! keep em comin =)

djdsf
12-17-2008, 10:26 AM
Nice bit of info there, thanks for that, however i don't often use any of it, i just add the podcasts using the RSS feed address, and i don't buy much music really, just the odd one here and there... Also, i do not have an American Credit card, do they even issue them to people in England? :undecided: :lol:

Hahaha, I tink they donīt want you using Euros in the marketplace because you will get more for less $.

Iīm in South America now and I changed the PC down here to the US setting so I could keep updating my music, and also, I get unlimited music for $15 a month with the Zune.

outcast6
12-17-2008, 10:29 AM
Hahaha, I tink they donīt want you using Euros in the marketplace because you will get more for less $.

Iīm in South America now and I changed the PC down here to the US setting so I could keep updating my music, and also, I get unlimited music for $15 a month with the Zune.

That is a pretty sweet deal if you like a lot of music. Microsoft seems to have no interest in releasing the Zune any where other then in America... which is a shame really as it is a great little device.

djdsf
12-17-2008, 10:33 AM
That is a pretty sweet deal if you like a lot of music. Microsoft seems to have no interest in releasing the Zune any where other then in America... which is a shame really as it is a great little device.

I :heart: music and also, Canada has the Zune as well I think.

outcast6
12-17-2008, 10:36 AM
Well, Canada IS connected to America... Anyway, it is really easy to import the device, i actually bought i off some random shady site i never heard of for Ģ99, it was a big, stupid risk, but it paid off thank fully. So just to say i guess, not all small, no name sites out there are out to con you and steal your money

djdsf
12-17-2008, 10:45 AM
Well, Canada IS connected to America... Anyway, it is really easy to import the device, i actually bought i off some random shady site i never heard of for Ģ99, it was a big, stupid risk, but it paid off thank fully. So just to say i guess, not all small, no name sites out there are out to con you and steal your money

Did you get the 3.2 update?

outcast6
12-17-2008, 10:50 AM
I have 3.1.620.0 so i guess not... Anything good added to it? (When i click on "Search for updates" it comes up with an unknown web error after about 5-10 mins of searching)

djdsf
12-17-2008, 06:09 PM
Nothing much really, just some quick fixes to the wireless sync.

outcast6
12-17-2008, 06:10 PM
Ah well, I can't use the wireless sync. I believe it has something to do with being over here, the Zune wasn't programmed to work with English Wireless networks or something to that degree...

djdsf
12-17-2008, 06:17 PM
Try turning your firewall off for 2 minutes, while itīs off, try syncing something. It should work.

outcast6
12-17-2008, 06:25 PM
Ok, i will. Ok, so i turned off my AV, and Firewall, "Can't connect, please check pass code or try a different network" So i turn off all security on my network, making it open, "Can't connect, please check pass code or try a different network" Shame... Ah well, i don't NEED it, what my cables for...

djdsf
12-17-2008, 06:46 PM
Ok, i will. Ok, so i turned off my AV, and Firewall, "Can't connect, please check pass code or try a different network" So i turn off all security on my network, making it open, "Can't connect, please check pass code or try a different network" Shame... Ah well, i don't NEED it, what my cables for...

Encode your router in hex , 10 characters, pass your signal trough chanel 11 and make sure is running on port 80. Afte that, test it and it shoul be good.
Also, syncing wirelles is better for the battery life.

Every time you plug in to sync, it will charge the batt, no matter if is full, so that will f-up the batt.

outcast6
12-17-2008, 06:50 PM
Oh wow, that sounds like its getting into the unnecessary now...

Will try later, off out in a sec to walk my dogs

djdsf
12-17-2008, 07:10 PM
Actually, that should be standard in your router, but if s not like that, then thatīs why it must be not going trough.

Also, even though it sounds like a lot, it takes like 2 minutes.

Talkingship
12-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Hey! Your conversation ended up making this thread a HOT THREAD in the forums!!! Thanks, and keep talking by all means! LOL
The more people that see this thread gaining views, the more popular the greatest SGCP in history becomes!!!! TALKINGSHIP SETS SAIL FOR WORLD WIDE WEB DOMINATION

djdsf
12-17-2008, 09:05 PM
...TALKINGSHIP SETS SAIL FOR WORLD WIDE WEB DOMINATION

Well, I have a few things up my sleve that will sure as heck help it move along.

I am also working on a little somthing I havenīt told you yet, but I think you will love.

Talkingship
12-18-2008, 01:09 AM
Well, I have a few things up my sleve that will sure as heck help it move along.

I am also working on a little somthing I havenīt told you yet, but I think you will love.

Awesome! I can't wait to see what you've got planned!!

outcast6
12-18-2008, 09:03 AM
Hey, my knowledge of computers is more "internal" really, software and hardware inside it. I don't have as much knowledge of networks, routers etc. So i am going to guess that the "Hex" is the security system, which i only have access to WEP and 4 different WPA and 2 WPA2 methods.

My channel is 1, which i have changed. Pass code is 13 characters, and i couldn't find any info way of changing an ports, apart from what ports my 360 goes through, having set up port forwarding for it a while ago

djdsf
12-18-2008, 11:56 AM
Encode your wep in the lowest hex you can, it will ask you to imput a 10 digit code, that is hex.
Channel 11 is not hard to find, and some routers might or might not allow you to mess with the ports.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 11:59 AM
Mine Is "WPA-PSK" because the PS3 had some wireless problems with WEP. Anyway, it isn't important because i just use the wire, and the wireless uses more power, were as the wire charges it as well, so the wire is a win win situation.

djdsf
12-18-2008, 12:00 PM
Mine Is "WPA-PSK" because the PS3 had some wireless problems with WEP. Anyway, it isn't important because i just use the wire, and the wireless uses more power, were as the wire charges it as well, so the wire is a win win situation.

Yeah, but the wire charges it even if the bat is not low, thatīs not good, that actually fs up your battery faster.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 12:01 PM
The sooner this one dies, the sooner i can upgrade to the new model!

djdsf
12-18-2008, 12:03 PM
The sooner this one dies, the sooner i can upgrade to the new model!

Then go for it man, I love my 120GB.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Heh, so long as my 30GB Model works, there is no sane reason to get a new one, once it goes, i can move on to the newer, bigger models. You got that touch sensitive d-pad?

djdsf
12-18-2008, 12:08 PM
Heh, so long as my 30GB Model works, there is no sane reason to get a new one, once it goes, i can move on to the newer, bigger models. You got that touch sensitive d-pad?

Yeah, I moved from the 20, to the 80 and then to the 120. The touch pad starts on the 80 but you can also get it on the 4, 8 andd 16.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 12:13 PM
All but the 30GB models, yeah... Is the pad any good? works well? integrated nicely? etc, or just a gimmick they slapped on for the hell of it?

djdsf
12-18-2008, 12:21 PM
All but the 30GB models, yeah... Is the pad any good? works well? integrated nicely? etc, or just a gimmick they slapped on for the hell of it?

It makes navigating trough the system a lof faster, cleanner and better. Also, it helps a lot in games because you can move in diagonal.

they did a great job mixing the use of the 2.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 12:23 PM
Thats good. Dam, stop making me want to have an "accident" with my current zune... :lol:

Talkingship
12-18-2008, 12:40 PM
What is the highest GB capacity of the Zunes? And how much does that high capacity one cost?

outcast6
12-18-2008, 12:49 PM
Zune 4,8,16,30,80,120

The number represents its size.

Launch price:
30: "$249.95"
4: "$149.99"
8: "$199.99"
16: "$199.00"
80: "$249.99"
120: "$249.99"

Recommended prices:
30: "$600.99"
4: "$300.99"
8: "$139.99"
16: "$179.00"
80: "$229.99"
120: "$249.99"

-Wikipedia

However, there prices may have changed since, i don't really keep a track of American economy.

Heh, interesting that the 30GB is recommended so huge now..

djdsf
12-18-2008, 12:59 PM
What is the highest GB capacity of the Zunes? And how much does that high capacity one cost?

120GB, and you can delete the games that coe with it. But I know how much you love those games.

They have a tendency to keep releasing bigger Zunes every 7 or so months.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 01:00 PM
Heh, way to under cut me there djdsf... mine offers more insight into the world of zune though... never leave a job half done!!

djdsf
12-18-2008, 01:03 PM
Well, I always want more space, so the 30 is not enough for me.

But if you want speed over space, you need to get te 4, 8, or 16. they run on flash drives, not HDs, so they consume less batt and they run faster.

outcast6
12-18-2008, 01:05 PM
I meant my post is more insightful over the price difference and size difference of the zune models.

djdsf
12-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Wel, he asked for the biggest one, and thatīs because he is torturing the hell out of his iPod.

Link. (http://www.zune.net/en-us/mp3players/default.htm)

outcast6
12-18-2008, 01:12 PM
And i was giving him the best choice if information possible, 120GB Zune, means different things if it was from a pool of only 100-120GB (Not much change there) or 4-120GB (Big choice in that pool) if you get me?

Talkingship
12-18-2008, 01:52 PM
My problem is that I have 145g filled on my i-pod right now, so a 120g Zune wouldn't do me any good.

djdsf
12-18-2008, 01:58 PM
My problem is that I have 145g filled on my i-pod right now, so a 120g Zune wouldn't do me any good.

Well, I would say wait for a little longer then. There is a rummor that they are working on a 12Gb and a 150Gb Zune to be released in Spring.

Talkingship
12-19-2008, 01:53 PM
Well, I would say wait for a little longer then. There is a rummor that they are working on a 12Gb and a 150Gb Zune to be released in Spring.

Well, I should plan on buying a new phone first. This stupid Razor is damn near useless to me anymore.

Talkingship
01-29-2009, 11:05 AM
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