Oblivion. MMO world in a singleplay game. To effing big for it's own good. They easily could have fit all of the content in a world half the size.

KOTOR 1 and 2(if I had ever played it). Combat style killed this game for me. From the get go the objectives are subtle at best. I need to know where to go, side quests are great along the way bu give me something to go on please.

Gears of War. Kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff. Anyone else see a pattern?

*dons flame retardant vest*

ok the one I have to disagree on is oblivion.
If they made the world any less smaller, it would have taken away form the awesome.
I still remember coming out of the sewer and seeing that whole place that I could explore.
Best sight I have ever laid eyes on in ANY game.
Also standing on the wizards tower on a clear day.
awesome, just plain awesome.

I've never been a big fan of the Elder Scrolls games, but with Oblivion I'm really trying to get into it, but I always end up playing for an hour every time I rent it, and go to a different game. I've rented it about three times now...

The bit about the fighting system in Kotor I kind of agreed with. At times I liked it and at others I wish it was a little faster. I still thought both of them were great games though.

Gears of War? That's where I'm gonna have to part ways with ya. ;)

I refuse to make a constructive post in this thread, after the bashing of GoW that he couldn't even give descriptive text for. But it's a military shooter, based on an alien invasion. You kill the invaders? Obvious, eh?

I loved gear's story and it's multiplayer.

Until about every single game I joined someone was cheating or using the host advantages (which are huge in gears). It just got so freaking repetitive. All multiplayer games became were who could ever get the lucky shot gun in the face. I mean, you start with the two best guns...

So i never play it anymore because of it's repetitiveness. But I would still recommend it to people.

But I loved it overall.

Of coarse you have to kill stuff in Gears!

Oblivion is an amazing game. It's vastness just adds to the amount of adventure. I like being able to say: I think I'll just go exploring today. On most games, you can't really go anywhere.

One thing I just realized is that I always hated those doors in games that you could never open. Where do they lead to? Why are they there? Well, in Oblivion, you never have that problem.

Well I didn't like Oblivion as well, which is strange because I loved Morrowind. Don't like Warhawk either. Enjoyed Kane & Lynch, but I was playing co-op.

Oblivion. MMO world in a singleplay game. To effing big for it's own good. They easily could have fit all of the content in a world half the size.

KOTOR 1 and 2(if I had ever played it). Combat style killed this game for me. From the get go the objectives are subtle at best. I need to know where to go, side quests are great along the way bu give me something to go on please.

Gears of War. Kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff. Anyone else see a pattern?

*dons flame retardant vest*

I disagree with Oblivion and KotOR, but you're entitled to your own opinion, and I can certainly see why they would turn some people off :grin:.

As for Gears? I'm glad someone finally agrees with me! The story is bland, people. Halo's story is more epic, and it's just about as generic as you can get - at least it has an interesting love interest to spice it up a little. With that bland story in Gears, you're pushed through this:

Cutscene
Checkpoint
Take Cover
Fire
Move to different cover
Kill all enemies.
Cutscene
Checkpoint
Take Cover
Fire

With the ocassional boss thrown in. People wonder how I liked Assassin's Creed so much because of it's "repetetive" nature - I was drawn into the story, so I didn't mind doing the same mundane thing over and over again. Gears is the same way - without anything there to entice you, it's just stop, shoot, move, stop, shoot, move.

Also, I never did like Final Fantasy VII. I played VIII first and it spoiled me :lol:.

Also, I never did like Final Fantasy VII. I played VIII first and it spoiled me :lol:.
Same here (although I played IX first) I keep meaning to go back and play it, I'm sure I will one day.

Oblivion is another game which i am always meaning to play, but never get round to actually doing it. I got to the part where I get a horse and stopped playing. I think its because I like the Bioware type of RPG more.

PS Congrats on becoming a mod :thumbsup:

Half Life
I give it the marines, they were fantastic to fight. The rest however was fecking terrible. Non human enemies were especially rubbish. The game just wasnt for me. Maybe becuase I played System Shock 2 (which blows HL out the water in every respect) before I played this that tainted my view of it, I dont know. It had a verrrry good demo though.

Half Life 2
I can see why people enjoyed HL1 dispite me not. It was back in the late 90s and some of the things it did were quite impressive for its time. HL2 however is just an plain and simple average game:
Downright bad weapons for most of it

Utterly terrible level design. Ive never felt so much that this is a level and not a palce - so damn boxy and linear that even FEAR puts it to shame.
Where the hell did the AI from HL1 go? The AI in HL2 is put to shame by Doom (and I'm not exagerating)... its getting close to Deus Ex level of bad AI.
Alyx - one of the most irritating characters in a game and her main role in Ep1 is to make a 90min game a 3+hour game by holding you back at every opertunity. She may be worldwide geeks digital love obsession - by god, Ive no idea why. Get out more kiddos.
Totally bad pace. Just when I think "thats a cool idea Valve, nice one!" they make me do it for the next hour+ at which point it seems like an absolute drag. (the boat, the lion caves, the car sections, the buggy sections, even the fight at the end of Ep2 as cool as it was was just a drag by the time it ended)
Bad vehicles (to add to the previous one ¬_¬)
Poor weapons. They just feel mostly ineffectual with the exception of the grav gun, the magnum and the crossbow.
Puzzles - a seesaw is not a puzzle valve! Yep you have physics, thats nice. Now could you please stop forcing that fact down our throats at every opertunity.


Theres just an incredible amount of bad design elements to ever be a great game never mind a classic or "best game ever". I give it credit for Dog, the ant lion bait, ravenhome/wood whatever it was called, the end of ep2 (even if it was too long) and the gravity gun. Thats.... pretty much it really. There are some great ideas in it but in the end its a painfully standard game to the point that it kind of angers me a little when people rate it as the best game ever even today. I figure they must not have played very many games.


I think its interesting that Valve are such an excellent company. Steam is awesome and I think they recognise that as devs they are pretty damn weak dispite the praise becuase they keep buying in tallent to make their really good games ;)

i hate Halo 3, but get scolded by all, so i guess i should like it, but they can lick my balls tbh, hae that game.

and Pro Evo, hate that game so ****ing much, yet it seems everyone i know is a pro evo fan boy :S

For those of you not liking Gears of War...

For me it's been the best co-op experience ever.
I have a regular gaming partner and each time we play through we discover new, cool things.
It's fun trying to figure out new ways to outsmart the game.
In fact, we're able to finish the game on insane in 2h30min nowadays(pc version).

Also, some of the dialogues are simply great.
Especially when they add a touch of humour to it.



For those of you not liking the Half-Life series...

It's never been an "average game" for its time.
You can't deny that they've been a milestone in gaming.
I won't argue with you, I'll just look like this :rolleyes:




My choice: Bioshock

Remove the excessively retarded hacking and researching and I might change my mind...
It totally ruins the pace of the game.

oblivion is such a cool game for a couple reasons, but you can go through and take as much of the story as you want or don't want. (which alone is part of it's awesomeness). firstly, the world being as big as it is... how is that a bad thing? you have to trek once, then every time you go to a location you've already been, you can just skip there if you want. there is so much you can do, but aren't required to do, it's insane. my wife has been playing it recently and she's about 20 hours into it and has completed about 3 hours of the driving storyline. but her character is a BEAST!

i've never experienced a game as big and immersive as oblivion.

as for the one i don't care for... resistance: fall of man. maybe it's my distaste for shooters using analogue sticks, but i just could not get into it. i'm a silent marine shooting through waves of a couple different kinds of aliens over and over and over. i love the idea of an alternate history and i was really excited to play it after hearing so many good things about it, but when i actually sat down and played it, i was like, "this is it?"

Everyone can yell at me, but Halo 3 is one of the games I know I should like, but don't really. The campaign isn't too bad, but I'll only play it with other people, otherwise forget it. And the multi-player sucks. Run over here, try to get the good gun before the other guy gets the good gun, get shot because the guy is already there...It's just not fun for me.

Burnout Paradise. I loved the Burnout games. LOVED THEM. And then they made Paradise. It is the most painful, hard to use, no-fun game ever. I drive over here, start a race, lose, then have to drive all the way across town again. Sure the jumps are fun, but it's not a stunt game, it's a racing game. And the fact they don't have Crash...

I will say Gears gets repetitive. But I play co-op only on that, so I like it. So, to each their own.

I think there's another game, but I can't think of it right now.

I never cared for Halo. The multiplayer is full of bunny-hopping Quakeheads that I detest and the story was just ... unengaging!

I think if I hadn't played through 2 & 3 on co-op, I might not have found the interest to even finish them!

And everyone bangs on about how awesome MasterChief is but I can't see it ... maybe it's 'cos I can't stand that figgin' BMX helmet he wears! Were they marketing him to dirt-bike racers fer chrissakes?!

The one impressive point I found, was that they got Keith David to voice the Arbiter, but if you ask me he was completely wasted! Especially in 3! He might as well have been backround scenery in that one!

But what I hate most of all ... more than any terrible game ... is the Halo fanboys who demand that I reverse myself and start worshiping at the alter of MasterChief! :mad:

I mean jeezuz! Back off dammit!! ... do they expect everyone on the ****in' planet ta be just like them?! Are they tryin' to start a cult or something?!:rolleyes:

the cult was started with halo:ce

But what I hate most of all ... more than any terrible game ... is the Halo fanboys who demand that I reverse myself and start worshiping at the alter of MasterChief! :mad:

I mean jeezuz! Back off dammit!! ... do they expect everyone on the ****in' planet ta be just like them?! Are they tryin' to start a cult or something?!:rolleyes:

Deep breaths MJ, deep breaths. :wink2:

Honestly I hated KOTOR, it had a great story but I found the combat Stale. I mean it was pretty much point, click, hit attack with whatever, then you do almost nothing.

For those who call Half Life average, just wow.

I hate Bioshock because it had a great feel and atmosphere but it was so times just mind numbing.

I'll have to agree with Half Life 2. I got the Orange Box, got to Ravenholm - and just haven't gone back. I've been told that it gets alot better at the end.. but I'm sorry, 8 hours of trudging through crap isn't going to make the shower at the 9th hour the best shower ever.
It was probably awesome in its day, but I've played so much better that I'm probably spoiled with wanting action with my story. (says the guy who plays FFVIII on a regular basis, and finds it more action-oriented than Half-Life 2)

It dosnt get better. Ravenholm is the best it has to offer (with the exception of a few Dog scripted scenes) and if you dont like that part you will hate the rest.


For those who call Half Life average, just wow.
I didnt call HL1 average for its time. I said "I can see why people enjoyed HL1 dispite me not. It was back in the late 90s and some of the things it did were quite impressive for its time.". I give it credit where its due. HL2 on the other hand was in no way anything more than average.

ah i hate this. the fact is that everyone will like diffrent games 4 diffrent reasons and people will give others a hard time about it. so i'm just coming out with my dirty little secret here i didnt like COD4 that much. i hated half life 1 but 2 was pretty good. seriously in half life i got lost so effing bad i ended up shooting the ventilation shaft until i had no bullets left. killed the game 4 me and i wasnt enjoying it 2 much before that. its 1 of the things i'm really finding in next gen gameplay it's way harder 2 get lost and i cant say how glad i am because it's so agravating!!!!!

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
:sad:

Half Life
I give it the marines, they were fantastic to fight. The rest however was fecking terrible. Non human enemies were especially rubbish. The game just wasnt for me. Maybe becuase I played System Shock 2 (which blows HL out the water in every respect) before I played this that tainted my view of it, I dont know. It had a verrrry good demo though.

Half Life 2
I can see why people enjoyed HL1 dispite me not. It was back in the late 90s and some of the things it did were quite impressive for its time. HL2 however is just an plain and simple average game:
Downright bad weapons for most of it

Utterly terrible level design. Ive never felt so much that this is a level and not a palce - so damn boxy and linear that even FEAR puts it to shame.
Where the hell did the AI from HL1 go? The AI in HL2 is put to shame by Doom (and I'm not exagerating)... its getting close to Deus Ex level of bad AI.
Alyx - one of the most irritating characters in a game and her main role in Ep1 is to make a 90min game a 3+hour game by holding you back at every opertunity. She may be worldwide geeks digital love obsession - by god, Ive no idea why. Get out more kiddos.
Totally bad pace. Just when I think "thats a cool idea Valve, nice one!" they make me do it for the next hour+ at which point it seems like an absolute drag. (the boat, the lion caves, the car sections, the buggy sections, even the fight at the end of Ep2 as cool as it was was just a drag by the time it ended)
Bad vehicles (to add to the previous one ¬_¬)
Poor weapons. They just feel mostly ineffectual with the exception of the grav gun, the magnum and the crossbow.
Puzzles - a seesaw is not a puzzle valve! Yep you have physics, thats nice. Now could you please stop forcing that fact down our throats at every opertunity.


Theres just an incredible amount of bad design elements to ever be a great game never mind a classic or "best game ever". I give it credit for Dog, the ant lion bait, ravenhome/wood whatever it was called, the end of ep2 (even if it was too long) and the gravity gun. Thats.... pretty much it really. There are some great ideas in it but in the end its a painfully standard game to the point that it kind of angers me a little when people rate it as the best game ever even today. I figure they must not have played very many games.


I think its interesting that Valve are such an excellent company. Steam is awesome and I think they recognise that as devs they are pretty damn weak dispite the praise becuase they keep buying in tallent to make their really good games ;)

What are you talking about?

I'm not that much of a Half Life 2 fan, but it had the best level design in any FPS ever.

The Weapons were all solid, and the vehicle sections were fun as hell.

Too bad the ZOmbies ruined it.

Gears for me, I really didnt like it too much, also, insane difficulty was too easy on co-op

And I know this one is rare, but Mass Effect. I really loved both KOTOR and KOTOR2, but I just couldn't get into ME, I could guess the entire plot from the middle of the game, the combat system got old on the second playthrough, and the relationships between each main character were pretty shallow imo, I think that the party relationships in KOTOR2 were amazing, and i would like to see something like that, where you could influence your party members. In Mass Effect, there is no punishment for being mean or nice to them, oh sure you get to have sex at the end of the day, but that just makes it seem more like the character's relationships are all staged, the game doesn't make me genuinely care about anyone, even when I had to make the big decisions. Also the sidequests were completely boring and the mako handled like a drunken, 80 year old blind woman.

I just cant get into Halo I've played it a few times and dont care to play again...

this is a really cool idea 4 a thread

I agree with Oblivion, but one that was said to be mediocre and that I love was The Darkness. I dunno, guess I just like summoning demons and eating people's hearts...

I just cant get into Halo I've played it a few times and dont care to play again...

Shun the non-believer...SHUN!

What are you talking about?

I'm not that much of a Half Life 2 fan, but it had the best level design in any FPS ever.Youve got to be kidding. A few examples:

HL2 - boxy boxy boxy. Oh look teh roof/floors caved in and made a perfect ramp to the next boxy area. Wow, boxes and crates (or similar equivelants) to funnel me through a seemingly open area in a linear way. Repetative and bland. Linear paths that are so clearly laid out and not natural in any way.
Ep1 - openings with ledges that reach only to the next opening that have no reason other than to get you the player in the next window... not to mention the fact that youre in a power plant thing that if the power fails the only way to fix it is to climb bridges made only of light - anyone see a strange problem?
Ep2 - Another forcefield to stop my car and make me get out again for almost the same fight I had last time a forcefield came up to stop my car which was rather similar to the time before that

....thats just a few of many many examples through the entire HL2 series (and HL1 but it can be forgiven becuase of when it was released)

Its rare to get so much of a "this was designed" feel from a level. So much so that you can always feel that theres a big box round the area youre in with void after it as opposed to other rooms above and below you.


I forgot to mention - the start of HL2 was great. Up till you get a gun it was splendid.

Halo.
Ridiculously overrated. All it's best parts were taken from Half Life and Quake.

Hear, hear Mr. Eibmoz. The very begining of HL2 was spectacular. But after you get a gun it's just blatently strung together encounters. HL2 to me just feels... hard. Not difficult, but hard in the stiff, rough edged meaning. It feels like the designers are pulling stuff out of a chest or something to show you, putting it away, and then showing you something else like a rich kid who's trying to make friends. It doesn't feel real, it's just a bunch of encounters.

First off, great thread.

Oblivion: I understand the issue with it, I couldn't STAND Morrowind (More than anything I couldn't get past the art direction, I hated it). However, I found Oblivion much more compelling, got to a 80hr character at level 30, without any Main Storyline quests.

Half Life 2: I have the Orange Box for my 360 and Ive got to say that it was more enjoyable on PC. I think that the guys at Valve do what they do well, but the HL series has never been my cup of tea.

KOTOR 1&2: I loved these games, but I certainly understand the problems some people have with the combat. I played Dungeons and Dragons back when I was in Middle and High School and have been playing Bioware games for ages, so I don't have a problem with it.

Halo: Ive never like Halo very much. I give the original credit as it was an innovation in game design, but I find it to be arcade-y and am not particularly a fan of the story. My biggest issue is the cult that it has spawned, but I stay away from the multi player.

Gears of War: Now that its mentioned I can see how you can find the campaign repetitive, but I find the game play compelling. I never played it much online, I was a Rainbow Six Vegas guy myself.

Zelda: Id like to preface this by saying I do like the Zelda series, I just don't play them. Ive watched my friend play through the entirety of Orcarana, Majoras Mask, Windwaker and Twilight Princess, but I can't play them.

Mario: Another Nintendo stand by, but again Ive never been any good at them, platformers aren't my thing.

Thats my 2 bits.

halo...nuff said

halo...nuff said

Ditto. Well actually just the single player. The multiplayer is still fun... though I find myself not playing it as much anymore.

I'm probably the first one to say this, but the GTA series. Never got into them. Hopefully GTA4 will change that for me...

Youve got to be kidding. A few examples:

HL2 - boxy boxy boxy. Oh look teh roof/floors caved in and made a perfect ramp to the next boxy area. Wow, boxes and crates (or similar equivelants) to funnel me through a seemingly open area in a linear way. Repetative and bland. Linear paths that are so clearly laid out and not natural in any way.
Ep1 - openings with ledges that reach only to the next opening that have no reason other than to get you the player in the next window... not to mention the fact that youre in a power plant thing that if the power fails the only way to fix it is to climb bridges made only of light - anyone see a strange problem?
Ep2 - Another forcefield to stop my car and make me get out again for almost the same fight I had last time a forcefield came up to stop my car which was rather similar to the time before that

....thats just a few of many many examples through the entire HL2 series (and HL1 but it can be forgiven becuase of when it was released)

Its rare to get so much of a "this was designed" feel from a level. So much so that you can always feel that theres a big box round the area youre in with void after it as opposed to other rooms above and below you.


I forgot to mention - the start of HL2 was great. Up till you get a gun it was splendid.

I couldn't possibly disagree any more. The game had amazing level design. It's about the only FPS game I know of linked every single level of the game together, in that from start to finish, you're in control. Although the game was linear, it never felt like you were actually forced to go that way - it always felt as if the game would guide you, but never force you. And the puzzles were somewhat simple, but unlike most FPS games, they actually got you to think. And not in a frustrating way either. In a way balanced so that it is always challenging, yet never too hard or too easy.

The game was made in 2004, so the graphics are a little sub-par by today's standards, but the facial animations and expressions are what I would call the best I've seen in an FPS today. The ordinary weapons were fairly good, but the gravity gun was what made the game in terms of weapons. It provides a level of interactivity still not seen much at all in today's FPSs. Being able to grab those circular saws and slicing zombies in half is simply priceless.

Half-Life 2 was, and still is, an amazing game, and although it may not quite live up to today's standards, it still boasts the best level design I've ever seen in a game, as well as great interactivity and, most importantly, everything in the game clicks.

I disagree with Oblivion and KotOR, but you're entitled to your own opinion, and I can certainly see why they would turn some people off :grin:.

As for Gears? I'm glad someone finally agrees with me! The story is bland, people. Halo's story is more epic, and it's just about as generic as you can get - at least it has an interesting love interest to spice it up a little. With that bland story in Gears, you're pushed through this:


Cutscene
Checkpoint
Take Cover
Fire
Move to different cover
Kill all enemies.
Cutscene
Checkpoint
Take Cover
Fire
With the ocassional boss thrown in. People wonder how I liked Assassin's Creed so much because of it's "repetetive" nature - I was drawn into the story, so I didn't mind doing the same mundane thing over and over again. Gears is the same way - without anything there to entice you, it's just stop, shoot, move, stop, shoot, move.

Also, I never did like Final Fantasy VII. I played VIII first and it spoiled me :lol:.

Doesn't that make all shooters similar in that nature?

1. Cutscene
2. Checkpoint
3. Take Cover/Get in Position
4. Fire
5. Move Up
6. Fire
7. Repeat steps 5-6 for as long as necessary
8. Cutscene
9. Checkpoint
10. Repeat steps 3-9 until game ends

And yet they're still fun. I agree that Gears is overrated, but it's still an above-average FPS with amazing graphics.

I'll just add, I got HL2 on the day of teh PC release so its not that I only played it on 360. more than that, we'll just agree that everyones tastes are different but for me it was a big slog.

dude everyone hated the pc port 4 halo 2

Only because you needed Vista
and it came out right before halo 3

dude everyone hated the pc port 4 halo 2

I really liked it. Then again, I had just upgraded to Vista because it was free for me, so that didn't have any effect on my decision. I personally think it was better than the Xbox version because of the custom game list, and the achievements.

Doesn't that make all shooters similar in that nature?

Indeed it does, which is why FPS games rely mainly on story and mechanics. I didn't like Gear's mechanics. The cover system was fine, but the pace it set for the game was extremelly slow - and it also made it feel alot more linear. Battles ended up going one or two ways - while in a game like Halo or CoD4, there's the perception of multiple ways to fight a battle.

As for Half-Life 2's level design.. I just don't get it. It's made to feel like an open-world game, but at the same time it feels extremelly limited and tight. If you're going to give the player the freedom to move around the world, you also need to give them some better direction - something Half-Life 2 just didn't seem to do. Sure, sometimes I found my way without much problem, but when I did end up getting lost, I got really lost. Like, 10 minutes of searching for just where I should be going, because other than the initial instructions, you're left with no direction.. I dunno, it just didn't work for me.

Did you own both copies of Halo 2?
like on the xbox and the pc?

Did you own both copies of Halo 2?
like on the xbox and the pc?

Not at the same time, no. I did own Halo 2 for the Xbox until about '06 or so, I don't remember. Disc got broken.
The main reason for me buying Halo 2 for Vista is the Shadowrun deal at circuit city. Halo 2 + Shadowrun for $40 total. Sadly, I played Halo 2 alot more than Shadowrun, but still feel I got my money's worth.

Me, I didn't like Gears either. I didn't like the grab cover and shoot but don't move quickly gameplay. I really enjoyed Assassin's Creed though. The story was amazing and the repetition I hardly noticed because it was so fun.

Oblivion. MMO world in a singleplay game. To effing big for it's own good. They easily could have fit all of the content in a world half the size.
I understand how RPGs aren't everybody's cup of tea. Everything (well, almost everything - I have my own gripes) in that game is designed for immersion. It wouldn't really feel like an actual country in a fictional world unless it had the size to go with it.


I'm probably the first one to say this, but the GTA series. Never got into them. Hopefully GTA4 will change that for me...
Same goes for me. Most of my friends fawn over them, but I never got into them. Maybe I'll like GTA4 though, but I probably won't buy it unless the MP is really, really good.


I never really got into the FF series, at least on the PS. I played the hell out of the SNES FF games back in the day, but never touched the other games.

Halo 2 for the PC... I cannot simply understand how this game is suppossed to be the 2nd coming of Christ.... plus M$ having made it compulsory to install Vista for it added to the injury...

Age of Empires III
Trauma Center: Under The Knife
Morrowind

Zack and Wiki Quest for Barbaros treasure.
Now I am a fan of point and click adventure games, however, I got bored of Zack and Wiki, it just didn't draw me in. It's not a bad game, and I can see why people like it, however it is just not my type of game.

Forgot this one, but it's waaay up there on the list of games I hate:

World of Warcraft.

Christ, I don't know how people are addicted to that game. I hate it with a passion. I've played the trial, twice, and played it at a friend's house several times. And no matter how many times I play it, it's just not fun. It's like playing freakin' Runescape with better graphics and a subscription fee.

I respect Blizzard for making a quality game, but I just don't enjoy the repetitive nature of the game. It's ridiculous how there are millions addicted to it when I find it a game boring beyond belief.

Halo3.... I don't get it. Its a decent FPS with great networking....its the Myspace of the 360..

well to follow on from new discussions, i dislike the whole zelda franchise, i very much dislike the new mario kart, gears online was horrible, and metroid. Oh Wells!

FF7 - I still do not understand its so called greatness. I'd rather play FFVI, VIII, and XII than this.

The Tekken Series - It's not that I can't stand it, but I'm on the Soul Calibur side of 3-D fighting games.

Half life (every episode). I know that everyone who knows anything about games is supposed to love it, but I found it to be the most dull linear game ever. Portal was great, as was TF2.

Gears of War - Horrible, horrible lag based mess of a game. The co-op was very fun thought.

Halo 3 and Pro Evo...
Didn't like either of those.
And Rainbow Six Vegas 2. Loved the original, but didn't like the sequel...

Metal Gear Solid

Burnout Paradise. I loved the Burnout games. LOVED THEM. And then they made Paradise. It is the most painful, hard to use, no-fun game ever. I drive over here, start a race, lose, then have to drive all the way across town again. Sure the jumps are fun, but it's not a stunt game, it's a racing game. And the fact they don't have Crash...

i dont really understand peoples hatred for change, what were you expecting maybe just the same game as the previous burnout but with better graphics and different crash junctions cus that sounds pretty lame to me, crash mode is still there but you can crash into anything anytime with no restrictions in showtime mode every junction is a crash the multiplayer is fun as hell when eight of you roll down the road in showtime at the same time. i know people get frustrated because it doesnt "feel" like a burnout game but if they made the same as the last one you would be just as pi**ed. try to bare in mind that the reason you were excited about the new one is because you were bored of the old one yet when it wasnt just the same thing again you got annoyed, that just seems strange to me. also you dont have to drive back to start the race again just start the nearest one there are no rules.

im not saying you should like this game im just saying that change is what keeps life interesting yet people seem to resist it at every turn

if you liked the old one so much just play the old one, problem solved:tongue:

oh and i agree with you about halo most levels arnt about skill there more about a race to the sword/hammer/shotgun

Halo 3. I used to be a huge fanboy but the game just lost it's luster and in terms of common sense and stratagy 90% of Halo 3 player are just so friggin stupid. I normally end a game with 15-20(or atleast a positive k/d) kills and the guy in second place almost always has a 8/15 k/d and it only gets worse after that. I don't mind new players every one has to learn at one point and people have a bad day, it happens. but come on a friggin level 42 shoud know better that to charge a sniper with a assault rifle when he's far away.

Are you a Halo 3 fanboy quiz!!!
Q. You and two friends are walking single file and exiting a cave an Valhalla. Your two friends are both gunned down by sniper fire. Do you

A. Keep walking and hope you have a triple overshield

B.Think for a moment realize that the sniper knows where your head is at and is going to kill you, so you back up and try to find a new path. Or a way to kill the sniper.

C. Keep walking, die, respawn and do it 5 more times


If you chose A or C you are a Halo 3 fanboy... and an idiot.

Are you a Halo 3 fanboy quiz!!!
Q. You and two friends are walking single file and exiting a cave an Valhalla. Your two friends are both gunned down by sniper fire. Do you

A. Keep walking and hope you have a triple overshield

B.Think for a moment realize that the sniper knows where your head is at and is going to kill you, so you back up and try to find a new path. Or a way to kill the sniper.

C. Keep walking, die, respawn and do it 5 more times


If you chose A or C you are a Halo 3 fanboy... and an idiot.

D. Use friend as human shield and get close enough to sniper to bash its face in with my gravity hammer.

I always disliked the Halo series, even when it was more popular then god I couldn't stand it. The only one i enjoyed playing was 2 on Co'op with my friend, they need to just kill the Halo FPS unless i get to play as Johnson, a character i acctualy liked.

unless i get to play as Johnson, a character i acctualy liked.

And he has to have a 'smack talk them Covenant bitches' command.

Half life 2. Dont like it. Porta was great, half life was... average. My bro tells me the ending is ACE but, well, so far not good. It will be the first game I trade in.

Gears.

It's just, boring.

I refuse to make a constructive post in this thread, after the bashing of GoW that he couldn't even give descriptive text for. But it's a military shooter, based on an alien invasion. You kill the invaders? Obvious, eh?

very true. i liked it, but the story was complete bull and the dialogue was HORRIBLE. haha.

I'm probably the first one to say this, but the GTA series. Never got into them. Hopefully GTA4 will change that for me...

Same goes for me. Most of my friends fawn over them, but I never got into them. Maybe I'll like GTA4 though, but I probably won't buy it unless the MP is really, really good.


Agreed, GTA 4 sounds good but i really didnt like san andreas

Hey guys!

I have to agree with the general concensus on here. The halo melee system has got to be one of the most infuriating things I have ever seen in a video game! No matter how many times you shoot the irritating twelve year old on the red team, he always manages to kill you with one or 2 BR bursts and a melee!!!:shocked:

I'd probably notice the repetitiveness of Gears, had I played it enough to get bored of chainsawing locusts who always seem to look like the ppl you hate most!:roll:

However the 1 that really gets me is GTA vice city. When it came out everyone went bonkers about it, raving on and on about how it was a real milestone etc. But really, let's face it! You can only hack the heads off so many old ladies before you get bored!:huh:

GTA for me as well.
its hard trying to find a thread not about it these days..

GTA for me as well.
its hard trying to find a thread not about it these days..

I haven't played it yet, but after hearing what Lono said about it on the humpday update, I don't particularly want to! Repetitive missions are what helped me to make the painful decision between Mass Effect and AC!

I haven't played it yet, but after hearing what Lono said about it on the humpday update, I don't particularly want to! Repetitive missions are what helped me to make the painful decision between Mass Effect and AC!

When you only get to play 3 hours after you buy the game. Its not enough to say that all the missions are repetitive.

Honestly, you could get that game for online alone

When you only get to play 3 hours after you buy the game. Its not enough to say that all the missions are repetitive.

Honestly, you could get that game for online alone


Mmmmm, I try to keep an open mind with games, but there are just some series, including GTA, which totally turn me off. So when a new one comes up, I can't help looking at it once, then turning back round to carry on with whatever game im caught up with at the time! (COD4 most likely!)

Mmmmm, I try to keep an open mind with games, but there are just some series, including GTA, which totally turn me off. So when a new one comes up, I can't help looking at it once, then turning back round to carry on with whatever game im caught up with at the time! (COD4 most likely!)

COD4 is amazing.

You're like the opposite of everyone lol
I love GTA =D

COD4 is amazing.

You're like the opposite of everyone lol
I love GTA =D

lol hey! What can I say?! I like to be different!:w00t:

Final Fantasy.
It's not that I don't really like them, I've just never got into them. Surprising, as I like JRPGs...

Thought of some more:

Guitar Hero 1,2,3
Rockband
San Andreas

Thought of some more:

Rockband


Why some1 would want to pay £180 (or whatever it is across the atlantic!) for one game totally escapes me! What happens once uve got bored of tapping your plastics drums to the GH esque on screen display? I mean it's the only thing ppl buy it for, after GH and singstar have already done the other two instruments.

Why some1 would want to pay £180 (or whatever it is across the atlantic!) for one game totally escapes me! I mean, what happens once uve got bored of tapping your plastics drums to the GH esque on screen display? I mean it's the only thing ppl buy it for, after GH and singstar have already done the other two instruments.

Never thought of it like that...

I never liked Gears of War, Halo 3 or Rainbow 6 Vegas 2

Never thought of it like that...

I never liked Gears of War, Halo 3 or Rainbow 6 Vegas 2

Gears I quite enjoyed, mainly because I never bought it myself, I just played it co-op and with 1 or 2 online rounds sprinkled in between levels. For me it still has one of the most entertaining close quarter weapons in the form of the chainsaw!:tongue:

If I am honest, I didn't really like Call of Duty 3. It was okay. But not great.
I prefered MoH: Frontlines to COD3. Frontlines was great.

If I am honest, I didn't really like Call of Duty 3. It was okay. But not great.
I prefered MoH: Frontlines to COD3. Frontlines was great.

The rifle was far too overpowered in COD3. 1 shot kills don't work.

Hmmmm let's see...

Halo- It's a tad generic and the SP is kinda boring.

GTA- Not the 4th one but the 2 PS2's versions were pretty boring to me.

Gran Turismo- The most boring racing game i have ever played.

and any Mario game besides Mario Kart DS, SMB 3, SM64, and Galaxy.

Well I NEVER liked the Hitman series.

I've played Contracts and Blood Money.Both are graphically lame.Both have stupid stealth-ish gameplay.Plus the interface(as a whole) is VERY ugly.

Splinter Cell and Metal Gear Solid is where its at!

halo jesus 1-3 and r6v2. cant do it. just hate them.

halo for multiplayer reasons. (full clip or two into somone a grenade and i still have to punch the guy, and why do people rave about its graphics, nothing special and low framerate)

and vegas, snake cam flash clear snake cam...... it gets old, and the graphics, retarted bad. grenades float and look like they were ported from goldeneye on the n64, which by the way, pwns the r6v2 myultiplayer. i hated that to. way to slow, i'll stick to cod4

Hmmmm let's see...

Halo- It's a tad generic and the SP is kinda boring.

GTA- Not the 4th one but the 2 PS2's versions were pretty boring to me.

Gran Turismo- The most boring racing game i have ever played.

and any Mario game besides Mario Kart DS, SMB 3, SM64, and Galaxy.

Wow. If I looked at that list, all of those games you said you didn't like would be on my "Like List". Hmm... :lol:

Oh, I also didn't like Need for Speed: Most Wanted. But I know that I am not the only one...

Halo 3
I borrowed it from a friend, tried it out, and hated it.
When I played it; it always felt as if I was crouching and constantly zooming in, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't doing this the whole time while playing.

Halo 3 and i had never really gotten into the Final Fantasy

Legend of Zelda, Majora's Mask.

I just couldn't get into the groundhog's day style of the game repeating over and over again. The first two days, I was fine. After that, it started to piss me off.

Half Life
I give it the marines, they were fantastic to fight. The rest however was fecking terrible. Non human enemies were especially rubbish. The game just wasnt for me. Maybe becuase I played System Shock 2 (which blows HL out the water in every respect) before I played this that tainted my view of it, I dont know. It had a verrrry good demo though.

Half Life 2
I can see why people enjoyed HL1 dispite me not. It was back in the late 90s and some of the things it did were quite impressive for its time. HL2 however is just an plain and simple average game:
Downright bad weapons for most of it

Utterly terrible level design. Ive never felt so much that this is a level and not a palce - so damn boxy and linear that even FEAR puts it to shame.
Where the hell did the AI from HL1 go? The AI in HL2 is put to shame by Doom (and I'm not exagerating)... its getting close to Deus Ex level of bad AI.
Alyx - one of the most irritating characters in a game and her main role in Ep1 is to make a 90min game a 3+hour game by holding you back at every opertunity. She may be worldwide geeks digital love obsession - by god, Ive no idea why. Get out more kiddos.
Totally bad pace. Just when I think "thats a cool idea Valve, nice one!" they make me do it for the next hour+ at which point it seems like an absolute drag. (the boat, the lion caves, the car sections, the buggy sections, even the fight at the end of Ep2 as cool as it was was just a drag by the time it ended)
Bad vehicles (to add to the previous one ¬_¬)
Poor weapons. They just feel mostly ineffectual with the exception of the grav gun, the magnum and the crossbow.
Puzzles - a seesaw is not a puzzle valve! Yep you have physics, thats nice. Now could you please stop forcing that fact down our throats at every opertunity.


Theres just an incredible amount of bad design elements to ever be a great game never mind a classic or "best game ever". I give it credit for Dog, the ant lion bait, ravenhome/wood whatever it was called, the end of ep2 (even if it was too long) and the gravity gun. Thats.... pretty much it really. There are some great ideas in it but in the end its a painfully standard game to the point that it kind of angers me a little when people rate it as the best game ever even today. I figure they must not have played very many games.


I think its interesting that Valve are such an excellent company. Steam is awesome and I think they recognise that as devs they are pretty damn weak dispite the praise becuase they keep buying in tallent to make their really good games ;)


-1.
I have never felt an emotional connection to a game before.
But the end of Half Life 2 Ep 2 pissed me off so bad...
the ending was epic.
it was amazing.
I wasn't pissed because i didn't like it.
I was pissed because of what happened (Not going to ruin it for people who haven't played it).

The Hunters freaked the crap out of me, because they were so SMART.
Fighting the first Hunter fight was the first time i've got an adrenaline rush from a video game. (Not counting Guitar Hero).

i love the level design of Half Life. It always felt like i was on a journey, actually there. yes, it's linear. But who said that linear is bad? Would Call of Duty have worked if it was open-world?
Valve let you solve their puzzles any way you want. I've found multiple solutions to the puzzles in the half life series.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and i respect yours. Perhaps Half Life isn't for everyone. But i feel like i oughta give my two cents worth as to why i like Half Life, just because I can.

Final Fantasy. Any of them but specifically 7. I could never get into any of them and all my friends were just like 'Wow, but it's one of the best games ever made...'

Oh, and Katamari Damacy, or whatever it is called. That game instantly annoyed me. Everything about that game made me want to gag.

GTA VI,there I said it.

^
Okaaaay Mr. Jack Thompson:tongue:

Legend of Zelda OoT- I never played OoT, and i kept hearing "the best game ever" and "It's a 10!". I played it and was really dissapointed (maybe cause it is a pretty old game)

F.E.A.R- It's not that scary, and the levels & enemies really repeat themselves.

WoW- Grinding= Boring

GTA VI,there I said it.

I actually agree.....
GTA Vice City has always and will always be my favorite.

I actually agree.....
GTA Vice City has always and will always be my favorite.

Is not that I hate this game in particular,but the only game I liked from the GTA series was San Andreas an only to do stupid stuff with the cheat codes(heck I got the game because a friend of mine gave it to me for 10 bucks),but what I really don't like is the over hype,front page,blogs and forums all you see in the topic is GTA.

for good reason. Have you even played the game? San Andreas was nothing to this.

for good reason. Have you even played the game? San Andreas was nothing to this.

no,I don't like shooters(I got San Andreas for 10 bucks),and I played it for like 2 weeks,now I hardly play it.and like I said what I really hate is the over hype,there hasen't been much to read on the front page like for 2 weeks

hype? Yes. Over-hype? Slightly. But only slightly.

hype? Yes. Over-hype? Slightly. But only slightly.

only slightly,cant you see all the front page news,blogs and threads.

yes, but over-hyped means it's undeserved.

This deserves it.

yes, but over-hyped means it's undeserved.

This deserves it.

Ummm...my bad for the confusion,but still,I woulnd't mind seeing a nice article on the front page for a change.

Halo
Smash Bros.

/shrug ... not my glass of whiskey.

Dont like gta. Gta is superior, well i dont like it, well it doesn't like you..

thread being hijacked into a why gta VI is superior, this thread is for people to say what they don't like and not get flamed for it so back on topic.

Any final fantasy or world of warcraft or starcraft. I never could get into the RPG and MMO genre. Honestly I just don't like the overall fantasy genre. Things like Lord of the Rings, could do without. I tried reading the book and couldn't do it. Never seen any of the movies either, don't feel like wasting ten hours.

but back to the video games, pretty much any RPG or MMO. I can't do it.

True. Command and Conquer and the like never appealed to me, and neither did Fable. I felt like it was just too... I can't even really describe it, but the flexing to get fans and all just was dumb to me. I want to see if Peter can keep his promises for Fable 2...

GTA VI,there I said it.

thread being hijacked into a why gta VI is superior, this thread is for people to say what they don't like and not get flamed for it so back on topic.

Any final fantasy or world of warcraft or starcraft. I never could get into the RPG and MMO genre. Honestly I just don't like the overall fantasy genre. Things like Lord of the Rings, could do without. I tried reading the book and couldn't do it. Never seen any of the movies either, don't feel like wasting ten hours.

but back to the video games, pretty much any RPG or MMO. I can't do it.


Sorry to point it out but do either of you realize you typed GTA VI? That means GTA 6, 4 would be IV.

And for me, I'd have to say the Halo series. I never really saw what was so special about it. Maybe I just couldn't get into the story.

It's not that i can't "stand" the game, it's just meh.

Super Smash Brother's Brawl- When i got the Wii this was in my top 5 games (cause i loved me some Melee). So i got it and was pretty amazing for awhile (about 3 weeks), then it got REALLY boring to the point it wasn't fun anymore. It didn't help that the online sucked. Maybe it's just me but SSBB was pretty dissapointing for a game that was supposed to be fun for years.

It's not that i can't "stand" the game, it's just meh.

Super Smash Brother's Brawl- When i got the Wii this was in my top 5 games (cause i loved me some Melee). So i got it and was pretty amazing for awhile (about 3 weeks), then it got REALLY boring to the point it wasn't fun anymore. It didn't help that the online sucked. Maybe it's just me but SSBB was pretty dissapointing for a game that was supposed to be fun for years.

All I can do is nod. Nod in agreement... My kids like it, though. When we went to best buy, they were on it for as long as I let them be, but I just didn't feel the same pull that I used to. Maybe it was because I was playing with the wii-mote instead of a classic controller...

All I can do is nod. Nod in agreement... My kids like it, though. When we went to best buy, they were on it for as long as I let them be, but I just didn't feel the same pull that I used to. Maybe it was because I was playing with the wii-mote instead of a classic controller...

Yes I think the controller definitely makes the difference. I still like the original Smash Bros because I absolutely LOVE the N64 controller.

thread being hijacked into a why gta VI is superior, this thread is for people to say what they don't like and not get flamed for it so back on topic.

Any final fantasy or world of warcraft or starcraft. I never could get into the RPG and MMO genre. Honestly I just don't like the overall fantasy genre. Things like Lord of the Rings, could do without. I tried reading the book and couldn't do it. Never seen any of the movies either, don't feel like wasting ten hours.

but back to the video games, pretty much any RPG or MMO. I can't do it.

Starcraft and Warcraft are RTSes (World of Warcraft is a MMORPG)

I too never got the attraction to Oblivion and Morrowind. Terrible storyline/writing, heavy re-use of characters. Combat? Please. I still go to bed with tears in my eyes thinking the same developer responsible for those games is making the new Fallout.

KOTOR 1 was one of the best RPG's ever made. 2 was an insult.

Gears of War? With ya on that one. Don't get it.

The only games I have a real hate on for is ANY of the non-RTS LOTR games. I'm so sick of watching pop culture rape one of the greatest fantasy worlds ever created. Sheesh, Tolkien must be rolling over in his grave...if the last half hour of the last movie did not make him roll over already.

I liked Kane & Lynch. On console it had problems but it was pretty fun on PC (since shooting actually worked).

Anything GTA. No matter what I see or play, I cannot get a chubby for this game. I loved GoW and I hated HL2. Also, I could not get into GRAW. Not sure why...I love CoD (even had some fun with 3). Weird.

i dislike the CoD4 online, and i also hate graw, rainbow six vegas blah blah blah.
But i love UT3 and resistance, good times

Half Life 2


Utterly terrible level design. Ive never felt so much that this is a level and not a palce - so damn boxy and linear that even FEAR puts it to shame.
Where the hell did the AI from HL1 go? The AI in HL2 is put to shame by Doom (and I'm not exagerating)... its getting close to Deus Ex level of bad AI.
Alyx - one of the most irritating characters in a game and her main role in Ep1 is to make a 90min game a 3+hour game by holding you back at every opertunity. She may be worldwide geeks digital love obsession - by god, Ive no idea why. Get out more kiddos.
Totally bad pace. Just when I think "thats a cool idea Valve, nice one!" they make me do it for the next hour+ at which point it seems like an absolute drag. (the boat, the lion caves, the car sections, the buggy sections, even the fight at the end of Ep2 as cool as it was was just a drag by the time it ended)
Bad vehicles (to add to the previous one ¬_¬)
Poor weapons. They just feel mostly ineffectual with the exception of the grav gun, the magnum and the crossbow.
Puzzles - a seesaw is not a puzzle valve! Yep you have physics, thats nice. Now could you please stop forcing that fact down our throats at every opertunity.



Interesting. Most of your reasons for disliking it are other people's reasons for liking it. I'll admit that the weapons felt weak and that the vehicles weren't great. Also that the puzzles were too easy and overdone.

I thought Alyx was done very well, and the game made me care about her. Maybe you prefer to play utterly alone or something, but i enjoyed the company.

Saying that FEAR had more interesting and open levels is just plain ignorant. Have you played it? Every level in HL2 is mostly dramatically different to the last, and if you're annoyed because there's no freedom, then you're missing the point of the game. It's supposed to be linear.

The pacing is widely recognised as the thing that sets HL2 apart from most other FPS's, and i really don't understand how you thought it was bad. Finally the AI, while nothing particularly special, was hardly awful either.

I did hate the vehicles in HL2... Especially at the end of Ep2
My friend wanted to discuss the ending with me, and when I told him I hadn't finished because I couldn't be bothered to play that bit, he eventually came round and did it for me >__>

The only games I have a real hate on for is ANY of the non-RTS LOTR games. I'm so sick of watching pop culture rape one of the greatest fantasy worlds ever created. Sheesh, Tolkien must be rolling over in his grave...if the last half hour of the last movie did not make him roll over already.

The film could've been far worse under a bad director. Any film adaption of LOTR was always going to anger the hardcore Tolkien fans. There's a reason it's been called "the unfilmable book". Jackson did a good job of making it accessible but also fairly faithful to the books.

1)Warhawk- After all my friends orgasiming overt this game i decided to give it a go. God was it a waste of £20, the only appealing part was the flying the rest was simply crap. The movement sucked, the guns where dull, it wasn't addictive!

2) Guild wars- I like my RPG and my MMO but this one was simply noring, they fling you into a world you know nothing about, and before you know it your a lvl 4 smothered by lvl 34 monstors its just so badly played out. You need to be expirenced in the game to start playing it it's crazy.

3) Every single Splinter cell- god i don't care for these. Why in all good graces would i want to play as a wonnabe hitman without the appealing part? I like shooting peoples brains out, not crouching by them at 1mph. Worst of all, if they saw you they shot and because the shooting system sucked so much it was nearly impossible to shoot back. The controls were crap, far too complicated.

4) Rainbow 6 vegas- didn't enjoy it (mind you this was back when i was playing gears of war)

5) COD 4- This is the single most overrated peice of crap ever. People wont shut up about this crap, its a simple shooter nothing more nothing less. I can understand what people find interesing in sp but the mp is bad as hell. You cant move without gtting sniped or air striked and people trash talk as much as Halo (and thats a hell of a lot)

5) COD 4- This is the single most overrated peice of crap ever. People wont shut up about this crap, its a simple shooter nothing more nothing less. I can understand what people find interesing in sp but the mp is bad as hell. You cant move without gtting sniped or air striked and people trash talk as much as Halo (and thats a hell of a lot)

Have you ever considered its just because you have no skill at the game at all? It is by far the game of the year.

Have you ever considered its just because you have no skill at the game at all? It is by far the game of the year.

oooh stinger you could of gone with the "you only dislike that game cus you want to be different so it gets you attention" route that would also be fairly offensive lol :evil:

Burn the heretic.

All kidding aside I didn't find the halo series all that impressive. They just seem like average shooters to me.

I've never really liked Mario Kart, something which I know is considered a sin in the gaming comunity. More recently, I didn't like Gears of War or Mass Effect and I found both Halo 3 and Bioshock to be disappointing (for different reasons).

Never really enjoyed Halo 3.. found it very meh.

Oblivion. MMO world in a singleplay game. To effing big for it's own good. They easily could have fit all of the content in a world half the size.

KOTOR 1 and 2(if I had ever played it). Combat style killed this game for me. From the get go the objectives are subtle at best. I need to know where to go, side quests are great along the way bu give me something to go on please.

Gears of War. Kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff run to the next check point kill some stuff. Anyone else see a pattern?

*dons flame retardant vest*
You just named 3 out of my top ten favourite games :shocked:

I hate all resident evil games.

Yea Resident Evil sucks

For me its the Super Smash Bros. games, they just suck balls. Play a proper fighting game!

never got into Gears multiplayer. They need to fix it for the next one, for sure.