After all the hype about KZ2 i got a copy and got it home really excited.

Now , i never had played killzone before so i was new to the whole thing .

I was impressed with the amazing graphics and running realism .
The first few cutscenes left me gagging to play the game.

So we arrive on the Helghan planet , and i was surprised to see my gun looked remarkably like an M4 . Yet i carried on regardless , and killed my first few Helghast, the gore and ragdolls were great , but after about 10 mins of the same thing , (take cover , kill helghast ...) i was lost in the story and got frustrated and went on Little big planet.

I also found the moving aiming a bit hard to get right (hard to explain)

Has anyone else had any of these problems ? Or am i just not cut out for Killzone?

Dude you just suck. Just go play Little big planet.

So we arrive on the Helghan planet , and i was surprised to see my gun looked remarkably like an M4 . Yet i carried on regardless , and killed my first few Helghast, the gore and ragdolls were great , but after about 10 mins of the same thing , (take cover , kill helghast ...) i was lost in the story and got frustrated and went on Little big planet.

Lol, 10 minutes was tedious for you, huh? Maybe FPS's aren't your forte. I have a feeling you'll get along really well with Rothbart :lol:

Also, taking cover and killing helghast are all you do in the ENTIRE GAME(that's why it's called a first person SHOOTER). So if you didn't like that, don't bother playing the rest. I don' really know what else you were expecting... :huh:

On a less tedious note, welcome to the forums :thumbsup:

you have to give this game at least 3 hours before you draw a conclusion. it does take time to get used to the CONTROLLER not the CONTROLS. im sick and tired of hearing people and podcasters bitch about the "controller not right for fps". that comes from an ignorant shithead who does nothing but play CoD all day and then hop on K2 and expect to rape. WTF DO YOU WANT SONY TO DO not make first person shooters? the controller is FINE for fps you just have to work through the fact that you arent holding a 360 controller and your not playing CoD. After that, its one of the best fps you will ever play. it took me 3 or 4 solid days before i was completely adapted to the ps3 controller as an fps. and now i play K2 online just as good as i do CoD. be patient dudes.

After playing the campaign twice and hitting General in multiplayer I rather agree with him, not some much on the tedious part but the lack of fun part.

After playing the campaign twice and hitting General in multiplayer I rather agree with him, not some much on the tedious part but the lack of fun part.

lol, go add up all the hours you've played between multiplayer and the two times through campaign, then it will start to make sense why it's not as fun any more.

I'm pretty sure it was you, but I may be wrong.... when I was comparing our SG clan stats after the first week... most of us were around the 5-7 hours of online play mark and you were at like 40

EDIT: On a side topic here, something I've wanted to bring up for a while, but I haven't... and I don't really want to create a whole new thread about it. Am I the only that DOESN'T think that KZ2 is the most beatiful, best graphics game they've ever seen? They are crazy good, but I don't think they're as good as what people make them out to be. My proof: compare character models and environment to MGS4. Pull out mgs4, play it for a little bit, watch a cutscene or two, then compare the characters details... faces, how the mouth moves when they talk.... I think mgs4 is still superior....

There, I said it.

Did you play the demo?
If you didnt i dont feel sorry for ya the first ten mins are the demo so you should have known that you wouldnt like it for just playing that. At least you bought it and gave GG some more of the money they deserve.

Change the controller settings to "alternative 2" and check the zoom hold option, that's the CoD PS3 set up except L2 is to crouch. The first part is defintely the worst. Once you complete that part and get the "Corinth Ribbon" trophy the game is a hell of a lot of fun to play!

I finished Killzone 2 and it is a naff game. Its 100% stuck in mid/late 90's game design, it just happens to have spangly graphics (pity about the terrible art direction). Most mid/late 90s FPS game however had an interesting weapon set and decent level design.... Killzone does not. I was actually really bored to the point of not being able to play for more than 30mins or so at a time, its all so uninspired. Also the MP unlock system is the single worst Ive ever seen in any game. Oh yeah - AWFUL controls - L2 to enter cover, left stick to lean out of cover, right stick to bring up sniper scope and..... how do I now get to the dpad to zoom in? Yich.

Its not a terrible game, I place it about the same level as Timeshift and Blacksite although I had more fun playing their buggyass SP games that Killzones.

Dont change the controls it messes up the cover system.
Stick to what GG knows is best!!!

well no i haven't felt like this at all. i love the game to the weary end ^^

lol, go add up all the hours you've played between multiplayer and the two times through campaign, then it will start to make sense why it's not as fun any more.

I'm pretty sure it was you, but I may be wrong.... when I was comparing our SG clan stats after the first week... most of us were around the 5-7 hours of online play mark and you were at like 40

EDIT: On a side topic here, something I've wanted to bring up for a while, but I haven't... and I don't really want to create a whole new thread about it. Am I the only that DOESN'T think that KZ2 is the most beatiful, best graphics game they've ever seen? They are crazy good, but I don't think they're as good as what people make them out to be. My proof: compare character models and environment to MGS4. Pull out mgs4, play it for a little bit, watch a cutscene or two, then compare the characters details... faces, how the mouth moves when they talk.... I think mgs4 is still superior....

There, I said it.

I had to be sure:lol:

It's not a bad game it...well it feels like a clunky and grittier version of TF2, which never was my thing either. Also I agree MGS4 has better graphics.


Campaign

It's not bad and there are a few levels I really like but theres allot of small things that kinda killed me. The dialog is horrible and instead of giving me a way point (D-pad up btw, before you finish the game without RTFM) someone just repeatedly said "get the rocket launcher" and after the twentieth time I just muted my TV.

The cover system just won't work for me I keep getting shot even when completely hidden, towards the end of the game I just dodged bullets ala Halo or Resistance.
On part of Radac's academy where you are in the building and going across the up walkways I would duck into the side room for a moment and bloody rockets would come through the walls and kill me.


Multiplayer

It just feels like TF2. I enjoyed it for a while but now every one just uses the sniper and Saboteur classes and stay in disguise. I don't generally have a problem finding the Saboteurs but the invisible snipers count for about 80% of my deaths and it's quite frustrating.

My biggest gripe though is the lobby system. I miss matchmaking I really truly do. I want to play killzone 2, not some crappy game type your buddies made up and refuse to put the in the lobby name so now I have to waste my time getting booted and finding a new game. (That killed R6V for me as well).

I love playing with the SG guys though, thats fun no matter what game it's on:thumbsup:

Frak, Battlestar is on...


...never mind, Stargate movie ( not bad either)

anyway, Neither mode seems to be my cup of pudding and it just doesn't have the addictiveness the COD or Halo has (or MGS for that matter). I still like it but it will never be something that I will play more than once a week.

Personally I like Killzone 2 and the control scheme doesn't play any part in my dislike (they are also coming out with a patch for more options) to me most FPS campaigns aren't great, most FPS's have one or two really fun levels and Killzone for me was the same.
Multiplayer is great I really hate matchmaking sometimes, if you are looking for a certain game it makes it a lot harder to find. Maybe a mix between the two. And Artemis if you don't want to be sniped just stay out of the obvious sniping grounds. For example I was playing in a match on pyhruss (dunno how you spell it) rise and there was a sniper watching the middle bridge. So what does a guy do? runs straight down the middle of it firing at completely nothing and expects not to be shot. Okay I can forgive it once, but 3 more times? one after the other?

i think the graphics are good but i cant stand it.
i have no idea why i just dont like it.

meh, can't please everybody...also, MGS4 does have better looking graphics IMO

also @ octopussymister...

FPS'es aren't your thing... should've played the demo first :lol:

MGS4 has the best cut scenes and better graphics then KZ2. But get STOP THE DAMN KILLZONE 2 THREADS DAMN!

why does every one have to smash on the new guy? It is his opinon

why does every one have to smash on the new guy? It is his opinon


Because he is talking the truth about Killzone Jesus.

why does every one have to smash on the new guy? It is his opinon

I don't think anyone was bashing him, we all just kind of stated the obvious: FPS's are not his thing. He played the game for 10 minutes and found it tedious. If I play God of War and within the first 10 minutes of the game I say "gosh... killing all these guys is really repetitive... I'm not so sure I like it".. I would just quit! Because that is what the game is! It's not like that's going to change later on in the game! It's a hack and slash! you hack and you slash, and that's it! So when he comes on here saying he's only played for ten minutes and has found it TEDIOUS having to take cover and shoot helghast, we're going to do him a favor and tell him to not even bother playing the rest of the game, because it doesn't change.

Truthful advice in a sarcastic manner :thumbsup:

MGS4 has the best cut scenes and better graphics then KZ2. But get STOP THE DAMN KILLZONE 2 THREADS DAMN!

Nah, KZ2 has a fair bit better graphics than MGS4. What MGS4 has is really good art direction making the most out of what their engine has where KZ2s art direction mostly consists of grey squares. Result, MGS is way more pleasing to the eye than KZ even though its kind of inferior tech.

Ok , i am going to give it another go and tell my self i REALLY have to get into it . But i really dont understand the story :(

I'm not getting it because the single players rubbish, I played it round a friends, and I don't see why I should pay full game prices for a game I'm only going to play multiplayer

I'll be honest that I am struggling to finish the single player (unlike R2). However, the competitive multi-player is tons of fun and I see myself continuing to play it for a while. That alone makes me happy (put around 30 or more hours into it).

I'll admit I do get a little peeved at some people where if a game does not control/play exactly like a CoD game, they will hate it. Even game playing like CoD would make me sick of the FPS genre even more personally (not saying CoD is bad, I just want to see all games be different). KZ2 plays fine to me.

Ok , i am going to give it another go and tell my self i REALLY have to get into it . But i really dont understand the story :(

Story: You're the ISA getting back at the helghast for invading your planet. you think everything will go swimmingly, it doesn't, you're screwed, fight to survive.....yea i think that pretty much covers it.

I'm not getting it because the single players rubbish, I played it round a friends, and I don't see why I should pay full game prices for a game I'm only going to play multiplayer

That's a pity, a lot of people found the single player segment rather challenging... Also you'd be surprised as to how many people skip the single player campaign all together just for multiplayer.....:tongue:

I'll be honest that I am struggling to finish the single player (unlike R2). However, the competitive multi-player is tons of fun and I see myself continuing to play it for a while. That alone makes me happy (put around 30 or more hours into it).

I'm someone who finds it very difficult to follow through on single player campaigns, but i found KZ2 far more compelling than R2 in this respect. I've tried finishing R2 but there are so many places where the game is just cheaply difficult. I haven't had that problem with the former.


I'll admit I do get a little peeved at some people where if a game does not control/play exactly like a CoD game, they will hate it. Even game playing like CoD would make me sick of the FPS genre even more personally (not saying CoD is bad, I just want to see all games be different). KZ2 plays fine to me.

Totally QFT.

COD is a great franchise but not everything has to be its carbon copy to be great, i wished more people would understand that. It's part of this mentality that if something is popular then a game must replicate its mechanics and MO to be deemed just as good.

It's ridiculous.

It doesnt have to be like CoD but it should be functional. Sniping from cover for example.... L2 to lock to cover... left stick to lean out, click right stick to zoom, move lef stick to aim... now push up on Dpad to zoom in.... Wait... what? Are you supposed to use your foot?

urgh....thats all i gotta say to all you haters

It doesnt have to be like CoD but it should be functional. Sniping from cover for example.... L2 to lock to cover... left stick to lean out, click right stick to zoom, move lef stick to aim... now push up on Dpad to zoom in.... Wait... what? Are you supposed to use your foot?

Yeah but there is no equivalent in COD to that, is there? You can't stick to cover, and sniping from cover is supposed to be difficult because it's equally hard for your enemy to be able to kill you.

I'm someone who finds it very difficult to follow through on single player campaigns, but i found KZ2 far more compelling than R2 in this respect. I've tried finishing R2 but there are so many places where the game is just cheaply difficult. I haven't had that problem with the former.I actually found R2 quite easy (didn't have a problem). ;)

Totally QFT.

COD is a great franchise but not everything has to be its carbon copy to be great, i wished more people would understand that. It's part of this mentality that if something is popular then a game must replicate its mechanics and MO to be deemed just as good.

It's ridiculous.Exactly. I mean, I didn't play BioShock, Killzone 2, etc. to expect it to play like every FPS I played. I expect every game to play different and be unique in its own way. Part of the fun when playing new games is taking time to adjust to something different.

@ Mr Eibmoz (had issues with multi-quote), try switching to Alternate 2. If clicking R3 to zoom is such a problem to people, it switches it to L1 (making it feel more like CoD). GG designed Killzone 2 the way they felt it should be played (which sounds fine, they don't have to copy other FPS controls identically). They were nice enough to have alternate controls to make it feel like other shooters. While it may suck a little for some there isn't fully customizable controls, but I do feel Alternate 2 will work will for CoD fans (and if you don't like clicking to zoom, you can change it to zoom hold also).

The game is a 9 out of 10 but gets boring quickly

Burns bright and burns out rather quickly

good job on seeing through blind idiot hype and going back to LBP, its obvious most here cant see through it

good job on seeing through blind idiot hype and going back to LBP, its obvious most here cant see through itSome say LBP is all hype and gets old quick. You can find opinions in anyway. Oh course I enjoyed LBP, but I know many who tell me that. That's just how it is, some will be happy and some won't.

I personally do feel too many games these days get too hyped up, but I more so put the blame on people in general than publishers (because it seemed like before, people took more of a wait and see. Now it's like many try to follow what they hear is good, even if it isn't in a genre they like. Even I fall into it).

I love it still but that maybe because I dont play it to death. I only play probably 3 hours a week of Killzone so it keeps it fresh.

The game is a 9 out of 10 but gets boring quickly...

...good job on seeing through blind idiot hype and going back to LBP...

lol......


fail.....

It doesnt have to be like CoD but it should be functional. Sniping from cover for example.... L2 to lock to cover... left stick to lean out, click right stick to zoom, move lef stick to aim... now push up on Dpad to zoom in.... Wait... what? Are you supposed to use your foot?

THANK YOU!

I kinda got past it, but it's still cumbersome.

But yea, I must imagine the Xboxers peering into the PS3 forums and seeing all these Killzone 2 threads and laughing.

Dude you just suck. Just go play Little big planet.

What the **** does that mean?

The game is a 9 out of 10 but gets boring quickly

Burns bright and burns out rather quickly

good job on seeing through blind idiot hype and going back to LBP, its obvious most here cant see through it

Oddly enough, I've got back into LBP too, but for different reasons. Although I do enjoy KZ2, the idiots that you have to deal with online put me off the game at times and I already have enough stress as it is. LBP is very relaxing compared to KZ2.

I disagree with the burns out rather quickly comment (unless you're referring to the campaign only) but everyone is entitled to their opinion. :thumbsup:


But yea, I must imagine the Xboxers peering into the PS3 forums and seeing all these Killzone 2 threads and laughing.
Even I have to agree that the no. of KZ2 threads is ridiculous. However, it makes me wonder if Halo 3 had this sort of reaction, when it came out, on the 360 forums.

Personally though, I just peer on the 360 forums just to see if anything interesting pops up on the console. I may have a PS3 but it's interesting to know what tricks it has hidden up its sleeves.

The game does not compare to the COD games . (in my opinion)

All though they can ALSO be s bit boring after a while , they have tons more replay value (in my opinion)

I know alot of people have mentioned the fact that i might not be the guy for FPS's , well let me tell you i own 16 PS3 games 11 of them are FPS's , and Kilzone 2 (R) is the only one ive been disapointed with (well COD 5 a little bit)

So i wonder if im the only one, who likes Fps's but hates (harsh word , not hate but dont enjoy) killzone 2

The game does not compare to the COD games . (in my opinion)

All though they can ALSO be s bit boring after a while , they have tons more replay value (in my opinion)

I know alot of people have mentioned the fact that i might not be the guy for FPS's , well let me tell you i own 16 PS3 games 11 of them are FPS's , and Kilzone 2 (R) is the only one ive been disapointed with (well COD 5 a little bit)

So i wonder if im the only one, who likes Fps's but hates (harsh word , not hate but dont enjoy) killzone 2

Oh well, it's just not your cup of tea :thumbsup:.....

Oddly enough, I've got back into LBP too, but for different reasons. Although I do enjoy KZ2, the idiots that you have to deal with online put me off the game at times and I already have enough stress as it is. LBP is very relaxing compared to KZ2.

That's funny. When I go online with the game I am impressed with the people I end up playing with. The irritating factor has been much lower compared to the people on COD4. IMO

That's funny. When I go online with the game I am impressed with the people I end up playing with. The irritating factor has been much lower compared to the people on COD4. IMO

Aye, but it's just when I encounter that odd one that gets me agitated. :sad:

But I do agree that in most cases people have been good.


So i wonder if im the only one, who likes Fps's but hates (harsh word , not hate but dont enjoy) killzone 2

If you don't like it, that's fair enough. Not everyone will like Killzone 2. I just hate it when people think they know better and rant about their views on 'how to improve the game' especially when it comes to the controls (although different from CoD and Halo, they are truly fine as they are).

When i mentioned the controlls at the start of my Thread , i didnt mean to say that i didnt like the controll set out , i think thats fine . The problem i do have is the sluggish movement of the aiming. (yes ive tried the sensitivity) it just takes a lot of fine adjustments whilst aiming down the sght , to actually line up a shot on your enemy.

Anyways as for saying i am trying to change the game , well im not . And thats it really Im simply not . But im glad im not the ONLY person who thinks there are some issues with KZ2

Don't aim if the enemy is less than about 10feet away. Also, the SMG let's you move at normal speed (running, not sprinting) whilst looking down the sights. Personally though, I just think you have no sense, you can change the controls in the options menu, they have near perfect CoD controls. Also I personally think that your not very good at the game - just my view.

Anyways as for saying i am trying to change the game , well im not . And thats it really Im simply not . But im glad im not the ONLY person who thinks there are some issues with KZ2

Why is it that whenever I rant about things in general, people think it's a personal attack on them? ><

I never mentioned your name at all so I am not attacking you, hell, I know you don't want to change the game. My rant was aimed at those people in general (and attacking the person who made this thread (http://www.sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18075)*).

I understand that there may be issues with the game but some people can get really ridiculous when they mention 'improvements'.

*Don't bump it please. I believe the OP has abandoned his argument now and left the thread to sink towards the SG depths

[QUOTE=Toharoco;310046]Why is it that whenever I rant about things in general, people think it's a personal attack on them? ><

I never mentioned your name at all so I am not attacking you, hell, I know you don't want to change the game. My rant was aimed at those people in general (and attacking the person who made this thread (http://www.sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18075)*).

I understand that there may be issues with the game but some people can get really ridiculous when they mention 'improvements'. [quote]


Lol dude i am the guy who made this thread.

Lol dude i am the guy who made this thread.

http://www.sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18075
^^^^That thread!^^^^

Damn you pointing out my grammar. :P

I am an FPS junkie, and Killzone 2 is not tickling my fancy at all. The sluggish controls make me feel like I'm playing a drug addict on an ambien kick. And then to have an end guy that takes advantage of those sluggish controls by teleporting behind you over and over again to stab you in the back... Really Sony? Blarg. I really wanted to like this game, but it just let me down BIG time.

^If you stuck to that comment alone and not made that thread, things may of not got out of control. >.>