View Full Version : I've finally come to a realization...


Canuck
11-23-2007, 02:05 AM
...that Halo 3 and CoD 4 have very, very frustrating aspects, and despite all that, somehow Half-Life 2 manages to create a perfect balance. It's always fun or at least interesting, and never frustrating or dull. You're never bombarded with ridiculous numbers of grenades like in CoD 4, you never have melee wars like in Halo 3, and when you get stuck, it's almost never because of being overrun by enemies, and there is always a strategy of some kind that can win out.

The way Half-Life is designed is so purely ingenious that luck and brute force are never required to win out over your enemies - all you need is a little thinking. And that, I think, is what seperates Half-Life from the rest of the pack - you have to use your ****ing brain. The gravity gun puzzles are challenging but always solveable, and when under attack, there is always a turret, cover, an object or something to help you succeed. Unlike Halo and CoD, you have to be fairly sharp mentally to succeed in Half-Life, because if, say, a gunship is approaching, you have to be on the lookout for cover and rockets, which there should always be in that case, and always is.

In Call of Duty 4, there are times simply so frustrating and ridiculous that I feel like smashing a hole in my TV. The TV station assault, the Countdown and more are ridiculously frustrating and badly designed. The TV station on Veteran, for example, has one of the stupidest level designs I've seen in my life. If you try to hide, your allies pull back and grenades begin to rain down on you. Try to hold your ground and a mountain of grenades will quickly form at your feet. Try to push forward and you simply get gunned down. It took me over an hour to conquer this one room, because of poor level and AI design and a lack of much of an intelligent solution to the problem - just dumb luck.

In Halo 3, there are many ridiculous moments in both SP and MP. The last room of the Crow's Nest in campaign, for starters, is a very badly laid-out room to try to conquer, especially on Legendary. On your own, it is nearly impossible to take over the room, because the moment you get their attention, the enemies begin to bombard you with every weapon in the game all at once (exaggeration). In MP, things like frequent lag, melee wars and n00b combos significantly lower the skill level needed in the game, and can frustrate me until I could plant explosives on a house, detonate them and not think twice about it.

Half-Life 2, however, is one of the very few games that actually manages to make the game addicting but lack any frustrating elements, unless your IQ is below 10. The level designers over at Valve deserve ****ing awards for their ingenious creations. The graphics are no longer top-notch, and the gameplay isn't revolutionary, but Half-Life 2 does so many things perfectly right that it is, in my opinion, one of the greatest games ever made. I don't give a shit what some Halo fanboy thinks, I used to truly enjoy Halo 3, but have since realized how low the quality of game was that I was playing. Half-Life 2 has raised the bar in my gaming experience beyond anything else I've ever played. CoD 4 is a helluva lot of fun, but its singleplayer is flawed and insanely frustrating at times, and so is not as great an experience as Half-Life 2.

To sum all of this up, if you haven't tried Half-Life 2 yet, go play it right now. Play it for long enough and it will blow you away. It's so far beyond Halo and so perfectly balanced that it's basically an FPS zen of sorts, where you're always enjoying yourself and never frustrated. Halo 3 is now gathering dust in my gaming collection, while CoD 4 and the Orange Box remain played because they are miles beyond Halo, especially Half-Life. If you've played Halo and not Half-Life, let me give you a comparison: Halo is like your first, ugly date, whereas Half-Life 2 is like a ****ing supermodel. And a nice one, too.

Glad to get all that off my chest.

Tk
11-23-2007, 05:35 AM
Before all the Halo fanboys bash your statement...

I completely agree with you :)

Larz
11-23-2007, 06:28 AM
And you get Counterstrike for free! Which is godlike in itself.

iPlayPC
11-23-2007, 09:52 AM
And if you get orange box, you get like 4 other games free!

Canuck
11-23-2007, 09:54 AM
And if you get orange box, you get like 4 other games free!

Lol, that's the point of the Orange Box. Best bundle of the year IMO.

Hollywood
11-23-2007, 10:04 AM
I agree the grenades in COD 4 make me yell loud words like f**K at the screen and halo in general makes me angry. BUT halflife two in nooooottt perfect. Not on xbox anyhow. Driving that stupid floating cart thing for 90 minutes was way more frustrating thatn ANYTHING in those games.

ChorleyDominic
11-23-2007, 10:13 AM
I'm painfully frustrated with the countdown level in COD4 and you're arguement is ringing true right now... but I'm not buying the Orange till I get through this beautiful damned game!!!

Mr Eibmoz
11-23-2007, 10:17 AM
Pretty sure the point of the Orange Box was that the Half Life games were so crappy they needed Portal to make the pack worthwhile :D

CaptainDDL
11-23-2007, 11:04 AM
Or Valve wanted to test how popular its games would be on the 360... =)

Rapahatsutt
11-23-2007, 12:49 PM
i found half-life to be boring so i stayed away from the orange box and by how many people on my friends list play that to halo now im glad i got halo

Canuck
11-23-2007, 06:26 PM
I agree the grenades in COD 4 make me yell loud words like f**K at the screen and halo in general makes me angry. BUT halflife two in nooooottt perfect. Not on xbox anyhow. Driving that stupid floating cart thing for 90 minutes was way more frustrating thatn ANYTHING in those games.

I didn't find that frustrating. It was occasionally slightly annoying, but it was by no means anywhere near as frustrating as most things in Halo 3 and CoD 4. No doubt about it for me.

I never said (I don't think so, at least) that Half-Life 2 was perfect, but it's so beautifully designed that everything flows, there is a solution to every challenge that doesn't involve blind luck, and you have to look hard to find a dull moment in the game. I HIGHLY reccomend that anyone who has not played Half-Life 2 yet to at least try it for a while. It's not perfect, but it's damned close.

V3NOM
11-24-2007, 12:26 AM
I play Halo for the multiplayer. There are a few things that I don't like about it, but I still have fun playing it.

Single player (and I've said this before) is where Half-Life 2 shines. The combined experience of HL2 and the two episodes that are out so far is the best time I've ever had playing a game by myself, without a doubt. I just finished Episode 2 today and it was amazing, so much so that I immediately replayed the whole thing on Easy really quick so I could hear the commentary and I still had a blast.

(By the way, the voice actor for Alyx sounds so much like Alyx that it's creepy. I mean, I guess it's supposed to be that way, but usually voice actors characterize their voice a little so they don't sound exactly the same.)

EDIT: I probably should have mentioned that I have the PC versions of Half-life 2 and its sequels. It makes for some difference because I think that keyboard/mouse controls better than dual thumbsticks (even if I'm better at the latter). But even so, the core gameplay is the same. I don't imagine things are too much different on the 360.

DaDillsta
11-24-2007, 01:12 AM
Aperature Science. We do what we must because we can.
But seriously, Orange Box was the greatest Half-Life 2 thing a person could have. I love Half-Life 2 and will get Orange Box for the 360 as soon as I can.

keith22
11-24-2007, 10:52 AM
orange box deal of the century, cod 4 game of the year, halo 3 meeh

Garwalker
11-24-2007, 01:43 PM
Can someone please explain the greatness of Half Life 2? So far I'm at part 9 and have two more to go. Most of the levels have been very repetitive. The enemy ai is very basic. The air boat was not fun and did not handle well. The story is not anything special; Corrupt suppressive govenrment is hunting you down, break a friend out of jail, lead a revolt.

I really do like some parts of the gameplay. Gravity gun is perhaps the best weapon since the Lightsaber or BFG. The antlions are a fun enemy but they are obviously taken from starship troopers. The robot dog is a great but small character. Wish they would have added a few levels with him being your protector. So I would say its a good game but not something I would ever play through again.

Hobo Hunter1001
11-24-2007, 07:09 PM
*Complete and Utter Agreement*

SilkySegal
11-24-2007, 10:22 PM
The best thing about the orange box was portal, HL2 was great on the PC when it came out but now come on. Team fortress 2 was poor. Orange box was NOT the deal of the year my friend.

SilkySegal
11-24-2007, 10:24 PM
lol heres my slaging off the orange box and whats the game second on my list of most recent games played. I just love portal 'n cake

Dexyn
11-24-2007, 10:45 PM
COD4's heavy use of Grenades pissed me off. But you have a point about HL2 and everything else.

Canuck
11-25-2007, 04:57 PM
Orange box was NOT the deal of the year my friend.

Then please tell me what is. Go on, tell me.