Ok, so i watched Saving Private Ryan the other night for the first time. And yes, it is an AMAZING film... and so are most american war films... but i noticed something...

Did you actually know that america DIDNT lose the viatnam war? and also they basicaly won WWII single handedly, there wasnt actually anyone else in the war except them, the nazis and the japs?

See where im coming from?

i see were ur coming from i notice it too but i gave up arguing it long before sg

There's a film about an Enigma machine (Nazi encoder machines) and in the AMERICAN film "forgot what it's called, probably 'Enigma', ironically :/ " it portrays an American squad capturing this Submarine with an Enigma machine, but in reality it was a British squad.

:/



I do agree with Harry though, I gave up this topic a long time ago :/
Americans give us Fast food, LOLcats and Megan Foxx, we could at least give them the rights to make all the Biased War films, novels and games they want. :]

There's a film about an Enigma machine (Nazi encoder machines) and in the AMERICAN film "forgot what it's called, probably 'Enigma', ironically :/ " it portrays an American squad capturing this Submarine with an Enigma machine, but in reality it was a British squad.

:/



I do agree with Harry though, I gave up this topic a long time ago :/
Americans give us Fast food, LOLcats and Megan Foxx, we could at least give them the rights to make all the Biased War films, novels and games they want. :]

How can we give them that when it could, in the future, transfer to actual stuff that people believe and it would be an utter disgrace to all the english people that gave their lives in the war!! and all their hard work!!!

I completely agree with you, in all seriousness though, The British film industry is not as prolific as the US counter-part, which is the only reason why the British (and other nations) aren't being fully credited in their efforts in wars.
Which is saddening, but which is unfortunately true. :/

Did you actually know that america DIDNT lose the viatnam war? and also they basicaly won WWII single handedly, there wasnt actually anyone else in the war except them, the nazis and the japs?

See where im coming from?

Damn right, and don't you forget it!:lol:

It seems like an obscenely large amount of American people are ignorant to anything that does not relate to them so for something to sell they need to relate to it in some way or be happy about how it ends.

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Neither are you, moron...
I have no intent to exact a petty revenge rep, but I do know who you are. On that note next time shows some balls and at least give me a a better reason than "Your not funny"

Damn right, and don't you forget it!

It seems like an obscenely large amount of American people are ignorant to anything that does not relate to them so for something to sell they need to relate to it in some way or be happy about how it ends.

Well yeah, im pretty sure WWII ENDED happily but they dont need to make it seem as if this only happened because of the americans and that they are in fact, amazing and that only 8 men from america can bring down the whole of Germany

...and that only 8 men from america can bring down the whole of Germany

Yeah thats kinda the reasoning I was attempting to expand on.

We'll not to point fingers but Monty didn't exactly back us up in Operation Market Garden.

Still, history is retold according to the perspective of who wrote it.

We'll not to point fingers but Monty didn't exactly back us up in Operation Market Garden.

Still, history is retold according to the perspective of who wrote it.

No, we dont go around saying "nah actually henry VIII never had any wives, and was in fact a lovely man who never executed people"

We'll not to point fingers but Monty didn't exactly back us up in Operation Market Garden.

Still, history is retold according to the perspective of who wrote it.

8bit has it perfectly...
its the whole... i hold the book i tell the story sh*t
half the older wars probably didn't even end like we think thanks to embellishments or cutting and snipping by who ever won

No, we dont go around saying "nah actually henry VIII never had any wives, and was in fact a lovely man who never executed people"

No but you do join his bullsh*t religion which was founded on him wanting to marry someone different. I do agree our films portray the wars falsely, but it's about entertainment. Also their was no such thing as the Vietnam War.

No but you do join his bullsh*t religion which was founded on him wanting to marry someone different. I do agree our films portray the wars falsely, but it's about entertainment. Also their was no such thing as the Vietnam War.

There was also never a war in korea...

what movie claimed we won the vietnam war?

is it shocking that an american war film portrays americans as positive characters? i can think of plenty high-profile american war movies that portray americans as not-so heroic as you claim them all to be.

full metal jacket and flags of our fathers come to mind.

There's a film about an Enigma machine (Nazi encoder machines) and in the AMERICAN film "forgot what it's called, probably 'Enigma', ironically :/ " it portrays an American squad capturing this Submarine with an Enigma machine, but in reality it was a British squad.

That was U-571 I believe. The first enigma machine was actually captured approx. 6 mths before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour and the Americans officially entered the war.

Yeah the film is crap. But it has it's good points. They kill Jon Bon Jovi in it!

Can't wait until they start making movies about how we crushed the powerful Iraqi army even when everyone thought that we had no chance. Remember that time we found nuclear warheads in Saddam's house and then totally killed him? U S A, U S A. Who's with me? Man, we sure did win that war quickly and efficiently, with hardly a life or a dollar wasted.

@PureDarkness
I think what he means by 'Nam not being a war was because it was a police action...no formal declaration was made.
So was the Korean War, come to think of it.

@PureDarkness
I think what he means by 'Nam not being a war was because it was a police action...no formal declaration was made.
So was the Korean War, come to think of it.

Yes, i know, thats why i said it.

Can't wait until they start making movies about how we crushed the powerful Iraqi army even when everyone thought that we had no chance. Remember that time we found nuclear warheads in Saddam's house and then totally killed him? U S A, U S A. Who's with me? Man, we sure did win that war quickly and efficiently, with hardly a life or a dollar wasted.

Oh and that just as the planes were flying towards the twin towers the government made a daring rescue by sending chuck norris to rebound the planes away

Alright then. My mistake.
:lol:

Can't wait until they start making movies about how we crushed the powerful Iraqi army even when everyone thought that we had no chance. Remember that time we found nuclear warheads in Saddam's house and then totally killed him? U S A, U S A. Who's with me? Man, we sure did win that war quickly and efficiently, with hardly a life or a dollar wasted.

Please tell me this is witty, ironic and sarcastic, if so it's really funny. If not then I am genuinely concerned.

I think the important thing is to separate America from Hollywood. As it isn't only American's that glorify their escapades in battle. Ridley Scott directed Black Hawk Down and he's British. (I'm sure there are other examples). It's to easy to confuse Hollywood for America, as it is the biggest portrayal of your country to us outsiders.

It won't be too long until China decide to develop a national Film service, then they'll be making films about how they won World War II. Then we're really getting into 1984 (George Orwell) territory.

Can't wait until they start making movies about how we crushed the powerful Iraqi army even when everyone thought that we had no chance. Remember that time we found nuclear warheads in Saddam's house and then totally killed him? U S A, U S A. Who's with me? Man, we sure did win that war quickly and efficiently, with hardly a life or a dollar wasted.

you do know there have been plenty of movies about iraq right? none of which portray the US kicking their ass.

bah, whatever... lets have a blind "lets hate america" thread still... its been a while since the last one died.

boooooo america, they took our jawbs!

you do know there have been plenty of movies about iraq right? none of which portray the US kicking their ass.

bah, whatever... lets have a blind "lets hate america" thread still... its been a while since the last one died.

I read on the internet somewhere that America funded the Holocaust.

I read on the internet somewhere that America funded the Holocaust.

there is somthing stating everything on the internet

there is somthing stating everything on the internet

I read that statement was false on the internet

What is with you British people always making "we hate America" threads? I mean we don't go around making "we hate the UK" threads do we? You guys are always making these threads and hating on us and by my knowledge the only one we've ever made was in response to MM's big threads that caused quite a stir.

Besides if it's an American film why is it ironic that the main characters are American? It's all about the entertainment value anyways. Do you want to see a tough rugged American or a not so tough or rugged British guy? I'm sure there are some, but how often do you see them in any films at all? The only one that comes to mind at the moment is the guy from transporter.

What is with you British people always making "we hate America" threads? I mean we don't go around making "we hate the UK" threads do we? You guys are always making these threads and hating on us and by my knowledge the only one we've ever made was in response to MM's big threads that caused quite a stir.

Besides if it's an American film why is it ironic that the main characters are American? It's all about the entertainment value anyways. Do you want to see a tough rugged American or a not so tough or rugged British guy? I'm sure there are some, but how often do you see them in any films at all? The only one that comes to mind at the moment is the guy from transporter.

Personally I took it more as a rant against the American made/financed war films rather than the US in general.

It is pretty galling when you see "Based on a True Story" on a film's Trailer/poster, and pretty much the only thing based on actual, real history (and we can argue over what that is another time...), is the name of the device/piece of land/whatever being fought over.

@zinc, i'm pretty sure if you took the 'hardest' navy seal, and the 'hardest' royal marine/sas, you would see that you dont have shit on us.

The only reason you never see british tough men in AMERICAN war films, is because for some reason, we are only ever seen as stupid, evil wankers with bad teeth.

To all Americans on this forum, where does this whole teeth thing come from? Please tell me, because i dont know anyone with bad teeth. The nearest thing is people needing braces, and as you are a larger country, you have a higher amount of people needing braces.

So if i ever get told to my face by an american that we english have bad teeth, im going to smile hugely while i bash his teeth in, then i will show him a mirror and say WHO HAS BAD TEETH NOW THEN EH? Its really offensive and untrue

@zinc, whodini is right it is a bash at thefilms not the US itself

@zinc, whodini is right it is a bash at thefilms not the US itself

First off. Shut the $#@& up.:thumbsup:

Now that my friendly greeting is over.

I get that, but what I'm saying is that there are an awful lot of American bashing threads on these forums and I'd appreciate it if you could cool down on those a bit as I am extremely patriotic toward my country (I've got no reasons for that I just am) and don't like it getting bashed.

As for the movies I could care less if it's a British or an American actor that is on the screen as long as it's good acting and they don't look/sound stupid. I don't care what the setting is as long as it makes for a good movie.

Take a good look at all of those films you're bashing and tell me they aren't good movie's.

Take a good look at all of those films you're bashing and tell me they aren't good movie's.

U-571 isn't.

Apart from the bit where they call Jon Bon Jovi as mentioned above...

@zinc, i'm pretty sure if you took the 'hardest' navy seal, and the 'hardest' royal marine/sas, you would see that you dont have shit on us.

The only reason you never see british tough men in AMERICAN war films, is because for some reason, we are only ever seen as stupid, evil wankers with bad teeth.

To all Americans on this forum, where does this whole teeth thing come from? Please tell me, because i dont know anyone with bad teeth. The nearest thing is people needing braces, and as you are a larger country, you have a higher amount of people needing braces.

So if i ever get told to my face by an american that we english have bad teeth, im going to smile hugely while i bash his teeth in, then i will show him a mirror and say WHO HAS BAD TEETH NOW THEN EH? Its really offensive and untrue

You take the Hardest Marine Recon and compare him to a British SAS, I know who comes out on top that time. (Seriously though, SEALS > your SAS. I met some when in the Navy, they scare me.)

So moving out of flaming territory of our military vs. your military, yes, America has a vast film industry, so we rewrite history. It's basically what happened with the end of every other war in history, "W00t, we have a giant propaganda machine! Let's start churning out some sh*t!". (Also see 1984) Obviously America wasn't the huge spearpoint we all like to believe we were, but hey, we have shallow egos, and we enjoy large explosions in our movies. Add em up, and it will equal as us being the dominant "go-to" troops, every time in movies. Especially since (and no offense meant, honestly), how many American citizens are going to sit through a $9.50 movie that's based on another superpower kicking ass in a war? Not many. We'd much rather pretend it was all us.

First off. Shut the $#@& up.:thumbsup:

Now that my friendly greeting is over.

I get that, but what I'm saying is that there are an awful lot of American bashing threads on these forums and I'd appreciate it if you could cool down on those a bit as I am extremely patriotic toward my country (I've got no reasons for that I just am) and don't like it getting bashed.

As for the movies I could care less if it's a British or an American actor that is on the screen as long as it's good acting and they don't look/sound stupid. I don't care what the setting is as long as it makes for a good movie.

Take a good look at all of those films you're bashing and tell me they aren't good movie's.


Zinc, youre such an idiot. I dont care if there is an american actor in the damn film because i am aware that the americans were part of the war!! so then actually casting an englishman to play and american, that wouyld just be stupid. What i do dislike is the fact that these americans are depicted as gods gift to the earth and won the war single handedly, which is just disrespectful to the british who fought just as hard, if not harder to win the war.

Zinc, youre such an idiot. I dont care if there is an american actor in the damn film because i am aware that the americans were part of the war!! so then actually casting an englishman to play and american, that wouyld just be stupid. What i do dislike is the fact that these americans are depicted as gods gift to the earth and won the war single handedly, which is just disrespectful to the british who fought just as hard, if not harder to win the war.

Then make your own damn movie and stop complaining.

PureDarkness: can you come up with any other examples of American-made war films, other than U571, that alter how the events happened that make the USA "look better than it should"?

I see you started this thread off with Saving Private Ryan... how did that movie make you think that American-made war films alter what actually happened to make us look better? that's why zinc isn't buying the whole, "we're not bashing America, just American made/financed war films". That's why I'm not buying it either.

If you wanted this thread to bash U-571, by all means, have at it. it was a terrible movie all together. just let me know and i'll change the title of the thread. To me, this looks like the XX amount of other "**** America" threads that are full of hate and/or ignorance (and basically lots of the things the people are bitching about the US).

PureDarkness: can you come up with any other examples of American-made war films, other than U571, that alter how the events happened that make the USA "look better than it should"?

I see you started this thread off with Saving Private Ryan... how did that movie make you think that American-made war films alter what actually happened to make us look better? that's why zinc isn't buying the whole, "we're not bashing America, just American made/financed war films". That's why I'm not buying it either.

If you wanted this thread to bash U-571, by all means, have at it. it was a terrible movie all together. just let me know and i'll change the title of the thread. To me, this looks like the XX amount of other "**** America" threads that are full of hate and/or ignorance (and basically lots of the things the people are bitching about the US).

Will people stop saying that this is a "I hate US" thread because its not!!! its the screwed up views american film makers take on the wars. We Were Soldiers very much glorifies the vietnam war... welll obviously there are gory bits and etc. but the whole thing with like "first man on, last man off" the overall sense of that film was not one of failure, which is essentially what vietnam was!

Will people stop saying that this is a "I hate US" thread because its not!!! its the screwed up views american film makers take on the wars. We Were Soldiers very much glorifies the vietnam war... welll obviously there are gory bits and etc. but the whole thing with like "first man on, last man off" the overall sense of that film was not one of failure, which is essentially what vietnam was!

I saw that movie, my impression was completely different, they wasted so many troops, all people who had lives back home, and really it was for nothing because we just up and left.

well most of the war movies that I see are based mainly on American campaigns such as Flags of our fathers, Platoon, and thats it, it's sad. American directors like to make their country feel amazing and the best of all which the US is, haha.

Yes, i know, thats why i said it.
By the way. Have you ever tried telling aVietnam vet that is was a police action? Not pretty.

Yeah, I am getting an I Hate America vibe from this thread. Also I am pretty sure they eventually classified Vietnam as a war.

well who doesnt hate america....
i think english prime ministers are the only people to like you guys as a country...

well who doesnt hate america....
i think english prime ministers are the only people to like you guys as a country...
Believe it or not, most Americans do in fact like the country they live in. Shocking I know.

Believe it or not, most Americans do in fact like the country they live in. Shocking I know.

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:shocked::shocked::shocked:

xD :roll:

well who doesnt hate america....
i think english prime ministers are the only people to like you guys as a country...

Wow...excess of haterade much?

I love America. I don't love some of the decisions that were made in the recent past. I'm not usually a very politically oriented person, but you have to figure there are better ways to spend trillions of dollars than send them to the middle east to rebuild a country we spent trillions of dollars destroying. Don't nobody say nothin' bad about Miss Jenkins.

This thread has taught me, more than anything, that some Americans get jumpy and defensive pretty easy. I definitely didn’t have the impression that this thread started as an American basher but was seemingly turned into it by a coupla people getting their backs right up against the wall.

I personally don’t get it as I don’t even grasp the concept of patriotism, it’s just a way of latching your identity onto something so you can prop yourself up rather than forming your own belief systems and subjective viewpoints on global issues.

In a modern (postmodern) world with so many alternative ways of forming identity and communicating with different cultures (i.e. this very community) than through national identity, why are people so fixated on defending countries where they have very little say in anything that happens. Your democracy is better than ours (the fact that we still have a house of lords is pathetic) but it’s still pretty false.

Well well well this has all caused quiet stir! Haha as for me Ive seen most of the Movies mentioned in this thread. Some better than other. But I myself am a huge warmovie fan. Whether it be another movie about a 'non-american" war or Jarhead. It doesnt matter. But i do have to say i took the most joy in watching a Documentary on Vietnam. 24 hours on 4 discs of every documentary made during Vietnam about Veitnam. Im not sure what most of you might know about Vietnam or what went on but as for myself I am a HUGE history nut and know quiet a bit about most wars we Americans have fought down the ages. I agree some American War Movies take things over the top with their characters and what happens during the course of the movie. But you have to realize it IS Hollywood. And it IS a movie about a certain victory (in most cases). And what better way to show a victory than to have one or a few main characters singlehandedly take out a squad of German soldiers or Korean zipperheads. Even though it might not have exactly wen that way during the war But it IS a movie and made for entertainment.. if you want facts watch a documentary. And besides stuff like that has happend before.. Its why we have The Medal of Honor.

Oh on that thing about Vietnam.. Soldiers were spit on and despised for being in Vietnam when they arrived back home from helping the South Vietnamese stay a communist-free country. True it was a police action but it was a police action in the good of humanity and to keep a small weak nation FREE. Which is what we all strive for as Humans anyway. Thanks.

This thread has taught me, more than anything, that some Americans get jumpy and defensive pretty easy. I definitely didn’t have the impression that this thread started as an American basher but was seemingly turned into it by a coupla people getting their backs right up against the wall.

I personally don’t get it as I don’t even grasp the concept of patriotism, it’s just a way of latching your identity onto something so you can prop yourself up rather than forming your own belief systems and subjective viewpoints on global issues.

In a modern (postmodern) world with so many alternative ways of forming identity and communicating with different cultures (i.e. this very community) than through national identity, why are people so fixated on defending countries where they have very little say in anything that happens. Your democracy is better than ours (the fact that we still have a house of lords is pathetic) but it’s still pretty false.

It's not a matter of blindly believing in your country, but what your country stands for. Americans are proud because of our history and morals. People bring up Vietnam as something not to be proud of, but in some ways we should be proud. Proud that we live in a nation where we can go out and protest what we think is wrong without having to worry, granted we shouldn't be proud of how we treated the soldiers.

This thread has taught me, more than anything, that some Americans get jumpy and defensive pretty easy.
So if i ever get told to my face by an american that we english have bad teeth, im going to smile hugely while i bash his teeth in, then i will show him a mirror and say WHO HAS BAD TEETH NOW THEN EH? Its really offensive and untrue
OMGENGLANDFAILS

Anyways. Let's be honest, guys. I don't care if you made a little hater thread on America. I mean, we're da best. I know you kids think it's "kewl" to hate on da best.

But at least admit to it being a hate thread. PD, you can't say "I'm not hating on America! I'm hating on an aspect of America!". As far as I'm concerned, it's the same damn thing.

Go hate! See if I care. It's not like we Americans don't pick on the UK from time to time. But at least have the balls to admit it after the fact. :roll:

OMGENGLANDFAILS

Anyways. Let's be honest, guys. I don't care if you made a little hater thread on America. I mean, we're da best. I know you kids think it's "kewl" to hate on da best.

But at least admit to it being a hate thread. PD, you can't say "I'm not hating on America! I'm hating on an aspect of America!". As far as I'm concerned, it's the same damn thing.

Go hate! See if I care. It's not like we Americans don't pick on the UK from time to time. But at least have the balls to admit it after the fact. :roll:

Im not hating on an ASPECT of america either. The films arent an aspect of america, they are just something made by someone in that country. I know a guy that makes glasses... those glasses arent an "aspect of england"
Im just hating upon the films, not because they are american but because they are biased. If someone made a film about one bloke who ran all the way up Juno beach dodging bullets as he went and then lead the charge all the way to berlin, culminating in one sniper shot that ended the war i would hate upon it for being biased even though its biased towards my own country. And im a patriotic person myself but i dont like people lying to feed the ecological patriotitic greed of people

By the way. Have you ever tried telling aVietnam vet that is was a police action? Not pretty.

Yeah, im not stupid enough to do that

(sorry for double post, i duno how to edit a post and put a quote in it :S)

You copy and paste the quote in between the words ["QUOTE"] and ["/QUOTE"]. Remove the " though.

If you want an example press the quote button under my post and look at this part.

but then it wouldnt show who it is quoting

You quote in the same way but for the first part you write the person's name like so

[QUOTE=PureDarkness] And here's the new example

Im not hating on an ASPECT of america either. The films arent an aspect of america, they are just something made by someone in that country. I know a guy that makes glasses... those glasses arent an "aspect of england"
Im just hating upon the films, not because they are american but because they are biased. If someone made a film about one bloke who ran all the way up Juno beach dodging bullets as he went and then lead the charge all the way to berlin, culminating in one sniper shot that ended the war i would hate upon it for being biased even though its biased towards my own country. And im a patriotic person myself but i dont like people lying to feed the ecological patriotitic greed of people

Why do you think stuff liek this COULDNT happen?

Will people stop saying that this is a "I hate US" thread because its not!!! its the screwed up views american film makers take on the wars. We Were Soldiers very much glorifies the vietnam war... welll obviously there are gory bits and etc. but the whole thing with like "first man on, last man off" the overall sense of that film was not one of failure, which is essentially what vietnam was!

We Were Soldiers was a movie about the first battle that involved the US. It wasn't about the entire conflict. I don't feel it glorified anything other than the captain of that platoon was selfless (first man on, first man off) and a leader. the movie itself showed that the US soldiers thought they were going to be slaughtered, but they came out accomplishing the unimaginable. Was it complete fact from beginning to end? of course not, its a movie, but it didn't alter drastic facts to make the US look better.

well most of the war movies that I see are based mainly on American campaigns such as Flags of our fathers, Platoon, and thats it, it's sad. American directors like to make their country feel amazing and the best of all which the US is, haha.

have you actually watched Flags of our Fathers? :undecided:

That movie was 95% about how messed up the US propaganda was during WWII.

This thread has taught me, more than anything, that some Americans get jumpy and defensive pretty easy. I definitely didn’t have the impression that this thread started as an American basher but was seemingly turned into it by a coupla people getting their backs right up against the wall.

I personally don’t get it as I don’t even grasp the concept of patriotism, it’s just a way of latching your identity onto something so you can prop yourself up rather than forming your own belief systems and subjective viewpoints on global issues.

In a modern (postmodern) world with so many alternative ways of forming identity and communicating with different cultures (i.e. this very community) than through national identity, why are people so fixated on defending countries where they have very little say in anything that happens. Your democracy is better than ours (the fact that we still have a house of lords is pathetic) but it’s still pretty false.

the only reason there is so much backlash here is because these forums have seen PLENTY of Anti-America threads, and its really to the point where most of the US people here (in this thread, at least) are just saying "shut up."

For someone to make a thread after watching Saving Private Ryan (which again is about a few soldiers who go out in search of one person, NOT about how the US single-handedly won the war) and say how all American war films make the US look perfect is annoying at best, insulting at worst, but 100% ignorant.

It seems that many people in the UK are brought up to hate the US for no specific reason. Many people claim that the US bullies the rest of the world, but you know what? We're a superpower. Like it or not, countries that are more powerful than England exist. Now I'm the last person who is going to claim that the US or anyone (anyone) in the US is better than anyone else.

It just gets really annoying to see stuff like this time and time again. I don't know why its started to bother me, cause I just picture most of people who are posting these things stomping their feet and sticking their tongues out because........ i don't know... envy? i have no idea why someone would hate a nation unless they were being threatened. it just doesn't make much sense.

another odd note: i've rarely heard anyone outside of the UK speak badly of the US... why is that?

another odd note: i've rarely heard anyone outside of the UK speak badly of the US... why is that?

And vice versa.

do many people speak badly of the UK? from what i understand, that's a very desirable place to vacation. (i guess europe in general)

Hmm...tbh I have no idea why people holiday in England. For the rain? Or perhaps the grumpy Londoners? Crap, now I'm bashing England.

Yeah but anyway tons of people bash England and in my experience they've all been from the U.S.A. For some reason people think that we only eat "Fish and Chips" have "broken teeth" (WTF I'll never understand that one) and have funny accents. I can understand the last one though (but only the Northerners:grin: ).

Yeah, im not stupid enough to do that

(sorry for double post, i duno how to edit a post and put a quote in it :S)

I did it inadvertantly one time. My grandpa was in 'Nam and he asked what we were talking about in school. I said "The Vietnam War". He asked what I learned.

I said "Well, it wasn't a war apparently. It was a police..." he stopped me, knocked a vase off the table, and wouldn't speak to me for the rest of the day.

Hmm...tbh I have no idea why people holiday in England. For the rain? Or perhaps the grumpy Londoners? Crap, now I'm bashing England.

Yeah but anyway tons of people bash England and in my experience they've all been from the U.S.A. For some reason people think that we only eat "Fish and Chips" have "broken teeth" (WTF I'll never understand that one) and have funny accents. I can understand the last one though (but only the Northerners:grin: ).

is that bashing? hmm... haha, i guess we really do live on opposite sides of the world.

as for the crooked teeth thing, i've never seen or heard anything outside of Austin Powers give reference to that, but i would imagine you probably have. :p

do many people speak badly of the UK? from what i understand, that's a very desirable place to vacation. (i guess europe in general)

PAHAHA the uk i nice place to live:

Wales: you might get raped by sheeps

England: DONT GO TO THE NORTH, the people are all drunk and f-ing annoying and DONT GO TO THE SOUTH we are all posh and annoying sarcastic pricks

Scotland: It rains ALL THE DAMN TIME

PAHAHA the uk i nice place to live:

Wales: you might get raped by sheeps

England: DONT GO TO THE NORTH, the people are all drunk and f-ing annoying and DONT GO TO THE SOUTH we are all posh and annoying sarcastic ######

Scotland: It rains ALL THE DAMN TIME

Wales: I lol'd. Then I was like WTF. Then I lol'd again.
England: I 100% agree.
Scotland: Couldn't you sum up the whole of Great Britain with that?

@cheese with the rain thing yeah, but scotland is alot worse

Most of those examples you said Cheese are just jokes, we do that to each other here in America. American constantly insult other Americans, North insults South, West insults East. Just jokes though, nothing more.

Most of those examples you said Cheese are just jokes, we do that to each other here in America. American constantly insult other Americans, North insults South, West insults East. Just jokes though, nothing more.

Yeah but people from the south really ARE stupid hics :P

Fair enough :lol:

I did it inadvertantly one time. My grandpa was in 'Nam and he asked what we were talking about in school. I said "The Vietnam War". He asked what I learned.

I said "Well, it wasn't a war apparently. It was a police..." he stopped me, knocked a vase off the table, and wouldn't speak to me for the rest of the day.

Well that wasnt very smart...

the only reason there is so much backlash here is because these forums have seen PLENTY of Anti-America threads, and its really to the point where most of the US people here (in this thread, at least) are just saying "shut up."

Fair enough then, didn't realise there was a history here. Though I have seen and heard Amercan bashing frequently on Xbox Live and it always pi$$es me off, makes me slightly ashamed and makes me get on their back to try and scrape some dignity for other British people.

In order to rebalance any contribution I may have made to "American Bashing" I'll try and rebalance the issue with some "Britain bashing".

1. The British Empire was one of the worst dictatorships in history, and no Briton should speak about it with pride.

2. The posts above were right (apart from northerners being "f-ing annoying":lol:), it rains a hell of a lot!

3. We gave the world the Spice Girls and Simon Cowell - oh the shame!

hahaha i don't mind simon. all the people that try out are his emotional punching bags... i like people like that to be told how awful they are. :p

the spice girls though... no excuse.

of course if you're bringing up music, you guys have given WAAAAY more great bands than awful ones, so no worries there!

We Americans have a few constants in our lives.

1. We always win our wars.
2. We always make the right decisions.
3. We always bail out the French.

Except, of course, those times we don't... Those we don't talk about and years later Oliver Stone and Michael Moore make movies about them.

We Americans have a few constants in our lives.

1. We always win our wars.
2. We always make the right decisions.
3. We always bail out the French.

Except, of course, those times we don't... Those we don't talk about and years later Oliver Stone and Michael Moore make movies about them.

your constants are 33% correct... we do bail out the french. :lol:

I liked the Spice girls

I liked the Spice girls

....and this says what about you?

It says I am secure enough about my masculinity to admit that I like the Spice Girls.

It says I am secure enough about my masculinity to admit that I like the Spice Girls.

I'm more worried about the physical condition of your ears. They might not be working properly.