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In Episode 62 of the Blu Show the crew has a surprise guest to fill in for the missing host this week.* We discuss an upcoming PSN game you play completely backwards (and allows you to use your guitar controller if you’d like,) Michael Jackson signed an original Playstation and you could own it… if you’re rich (and stupid.)* We discuss Frawlz’s difficulties with Killzone 2. We also discuss the recent lawsuit against Sony for banning someone from the PlayStation Network.* Sony admits they considered adding a 2nd analog stick to the PSP go but opted not to… do we care?* Tune in and find out.* Finally, we answer a whole mess of listener questions.
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PopTrogdor 07-24-2009, 11:11 AM i just wish people would stop saying one controller is definitely "better at first and third person shooters" over another controller.
It's in the eye of the beholder, stop making blank statements, and being obtuse by saying that this controller is definitely better because that other one is shit. People like that are cocks! If you want to say that a controller is better, you say "personally, i prefer this controller etc etc" So, i dont really know who the guest guy was tbh, except he was from, what, gamertag radio? But he was being obtuse, and his statement was stupid.
Im Jus' Sayin'
Shane86 07-24-2009, 11:22 AM "Godfree videos himself taking a dump"... Frawlz I distinctly remember seeing you on the toilet during "Doc just sits there." Or have you blocked that from your mind like I've been trying to do? :lol:
Unless the PS3 dropped to a ridiculous price I can't see it catching up with the sales of the 360. When it launched here it was €630 ($900) and a lot of people at the time weren't willing to pay that and got a 360 instead.
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rothbart 07-24-2009, 11:45 AM People like that are cocks! If you want to say that a controller is better, you say "personally, i prefer this controller etc etc" So, i dont really know who the guest guy was tbh, except he was from, what, gamertag radio? But he was being obtuse, and his statement was stupid.
Im Jus' Sayin'
Peterocc is a good guy. Definitely not a cock. If you judged people based on them saying stupid stuff, you must hate us too... ;)
He's also directly responsible for me having the best steak in my entire friggin' life, so yeah... he gets a pass. :lol:
Unless the PS3 dropped to a ridiculous price I can't see it catching up with the sales of the 360. When it launched here it was €630 ($900) and a lot of people at the time weren't willing to pay that and got a 360 instead.
I'll go out on a limb here and say $100 price drop due to the (not-feature-reduced) PS3 Slim being released in September, but ultimately... the issue at hand here is what I mentioned on the show... I would bet a LARGE sum of money that Sony will be selling PS3s for YEARS after the 360 is discontinued, so it becomes a matter of semantics. I think i read last night that the 360 only has a 5M unit advantage in the US right now. Also, most people don't notice (http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php) that based on sales since launch, the PS3 is outperforming the 360, it's just that the 360 launched first. What I'm getting at is that it's not unreasonable for a slight shift for the worse on the 360 side combined with a slight shift for the better on the PS3 side to make a very real difference in the long run. Both systems have YEARS left, but if we're talking total units sold before they're each designated as "discontinued", it's foolish to claim certainty when saying the PS3 will never catch up. Which, clearly, is just my opinion... :tongue:
Shane86 07-24-2009, 12:00 PM Peterocc is a good guy. Definitely not a cock. If you judged people based on them saying stupid stuff, you must hate us too... ;)Poptrogdor is what as known as a playstation "fanboy", if someone says they think the 360 or Wii is better than the PS3 at ANYTHING, he will be waiting in the shadows ready to pounce :D
RaiseHavok 07-24-2009, 12:05 PM I believe that Erik Estavillo - "the banned Resistance" player - also wants to enjoin (i.e. prevent) Sony from banning users from the PSN. An absolutely laughable idea if you ask me. Talk about opening the floodgates. Look, I sympathize with the guy if he does have a fear of crowds, but that doesn't entitle him to act out online - if that is indeed what happened. And, help me out here Rothbart, but aren't some bans temporary, depending on how much trouble a person has caused? Thus, Estavillo would only temporarily lose access to his PSN funds, negating his argument that Sony stole his money?
rothbart 07-24-2009, 12:09 PM Insomniac, in conjunction with Sony, promised full, permanent, lifetime bans... or as I like to call it: The Real Deal™. The "don't f**k around or you're going to get as hosed as we can hose you" ban.
First Amendment rights don't apply to a closed online service. Just because there is no charge doesn't mean it's your God given right to be on PSN. The guy is attention whoring and perpetuating the "Americans will sue over anything" stereotype. I personally hope he doesn't give up and gets BODYSLAMMED in court and tied up in so many legal fees he's forced to go work as a food court janitor in a crowded shopping mall. That oughta clear up that agorophobia.
I'm sure if the jackass actually read what he had to agree to, he'd realize he broke the rules and knew what was at stake. Ignorance isn't a legal excuse.
RaiseHavok 07-24-2009, 12:35 PM If Sony and Insomniac have agreed upon permanent bans, then any person who gets the ax must have done something pretty serious. I can't image they would perma-ban someone for a few ****s and ****s.
PopTrogdor 07-24-2009, 12:40 PM Poptrogdor is what as known as a playstation "fanboy", if someone says they think the 360 or Wii is better than the PS3 at ANYTHING, he will be waiting in the shadows ready to pounce :D
pff i'd say the same about anything, it doesn't really matter if he's a nice guy, he said a blank statement which for the most part isn't true, just because he thinks it makes it totally and definitely true? I think all the podcasts i listen to talk shit using sweeping generalisations and often makes me turn the podcast off, this is the first time ive actually voiced it, because it was so stupid
TamarindLAZ 07-24-2009, 12:44 PM Thanks for another episode.
Downloading now. :)
Chubbaluphigous 07-24-2009, 04:59 PM I seem to recall that around this time last year Sony said that they were losing about 30 bucks per console sold. I'm sorry I don't have a source. Usually I do, so just assume I'm right. :thumbsup: By now they are probably running flush. Should there be a slim and big price drop, then there will most likely be a larger than average sales spike. So many people have been expecting a price drop for so long, that they will run out and get one as soon as it actually does drop. It is like shooting a load after having blue balls all night
I don't really care if they overtake MS sales. They don't need to. They need to turn an overall profit and set themselves up for next a good launch next gen. As long as they keep up the good game lineup I'll be fine. They aren't going under. 3rd place in sales doesn't equal dead. One of the systems has to come in last. It is tiring to constantly hear people talk about this gen's consoles like this. People are getting boners for their console of choice, and want to see the others die. In a competition driven market, supporting the other guy is just as important as supporting your own team.
I can't shake the feeling I had more to say.... Oh well, I don't care. BEER ME
rothbart 07-24-2009, 05:53 PM They need to turn an overall profit and set themselves up for next a good launch next gen.
What a lot of people aren't noticing is that Sony spent a metric crapton developing the Cell processor along with some other companies and the Cell processor is meant to be highly scalable when connected to other Cell processors. What that tells me is that Sony is likely going to make a HUGE splash with a multi-Cell console next gen and will have a fraction of the R&D costs or parts costs this gen has taken while nobody else will likely have that same luxury. Rumor has it that even the GPU is likely to be handled by a Cell processor next go around. The Cell itself will be mature, but they'll be able to toss 2, 3, 4 of them into a single device and BLAMO!
Audio can only be enhanced so much (7.1 uncompressed blah-de-blah, whatever the worst case processing wise/best case fidelity wise is), graphics can only be enhanced so much (full 1080p @ 60fps w/full bells and whistles), after that, you're wasting resources enhancing those areas (although 3D will likely play into the next gen of video consoles from MS/Sony)
This means stuff that still has massive room for improvement (AI, physics, brute processing) may see a massive boost since conceivably most devs will have their heads wrapped around the Cell, SPUs and parallel processing in general.)
I'm not giving up on this gen, but if I were looking ahead... knowing only what someone on the outside knows... Sony's looking might good in terms of what they can do. Nintendo just has to catch up to where Sony/MS is now and they'll have made a quantum leap. Microsoft is the big wild card in my mind... I don't really have a vision of what they're going to do next-gen yet.
They aren't going under. 3rd place in sales doesn't equal dead. One of the systems has to come in last.
Funny you should say they're not going under. I just happened to look through the latest issue of Fortune and they list the 500 World's Largest Corporations. At #75 is Sony with $76B revenue (this is obviously for 2008 since 2009 isn't over yet) while Microsoft is at #117 with $60B. Both companies are vastly diversified and can weather things like this. They'll both see profits long-term, but short term they've both (and Sony still does) take it in the pants.
Chubbaluphigous 07-24-2009, 06:22 PM I'm not giving up on this gen, but if I were looking ahead... knowing only what someone on the outside knows... Sony's looking might good in terms of what they can do. Nintendo just has to catch up to where Sony/MS is now and they'll have made a quantum leap. Microsoft is the big wild card in my mind... I don't really have a vision of what they're going to do next-gen yet.
The next Wii really has me curious. Millions of people are buying their shit in mass, and then not really using it. It worked once proving people are gullible, but will it work again. Of course they will sell tons of units and make lots of profit, but will it be to the same magnitude as it is right now? Will people do the same thing twice? Will the next one come with a lunchbox handle and be available it a variety of colors?
Multibucket 07-24-2009, 09:16 PM Hey Rothbart, what impresses you more this generation? The graphics on the 360 or the PS3's animations and physics? Think Gears of War vs something like inFAMOUS. HALO3 doesn't count, it looked terrible.
The reason I ask this is that it seems that this generation the PS3 can do more stuff using the SPUs in its exclusives with regards to animations, lighting and physics while the 360 seems to excel at texture resolution, in most cases, and AA effects due to the EDRAM.
For me, with HD resolutions, I am more interested in how the characters move and interact with the world but at the same time seeing the lighting and effects on some 360 games can really impress me.
I am not talking about multiplatform games :)
Chubbaluphigous 07-24-2009, 09:38 PM Hey Rothbart, what impresses you more this generation? The graphics on the 360 or the PS3's animations and physics? Think Gears of War vs something like inFAMOUS. HALO3 doesn't count, it looked terrible.
The reason I ask this is that it seems that this generation the PS3 can do more stuff using the SPUs in its exclusives with regards to animations, lighting and physics while the 360 seems to excel at texture resolution, in most cases, and AA effects due to the EDRAM.
For me, with HD resolutions, I am more interested in how the characters move and interact with the world but at the same time seeing the lighting and effects on some 360 games can really impress me.
I am not talking about multiplatform games :)
Where have you been? Gears of war is inFAMOUS. So I am very confused by your comment.
Which reminds me. I've been meaning to play some inFAMOUS. Now, which box did I pack my 360 controller in?
Elbubblydingus 07-25-2009, 02:12 AM Another great episode by the blu show (with some outside help) hey, just wanting to know (cuz I'm still new in SG) when your guy's next contest gonna be?
MrSoft 07-25-2009, 06:10 AM i just wish people would stop saying one controller is definitely "better at first and third person shooters" over another controller.
It's in the eye of the beholder, stop making blank statements, and being obtuse by saying that this controller is definitely better because that other one is shit. People like that are cocks! If you want to say that a controller is better, you say "personally, i prefer this controller etc etc" So, i dont really know who the guest guy was tbh, except he was from, what, gamertag radio? But he was being obtuse, and his statement was stupid.
Im Jus' Sayin'
Yeah, I agree, I hate when people make general statements when it's just their opinion. He prefers the 360 controller cause it's what he's used to. Besides everyone knows the Dualshock 3 is the best in every way :tongue:
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Being John Malkovich was on the other day, I DVRed it... and what's this? Shane86's favourite band is The Beatles? But that means we agree on something, they're my favourite band too. How can we agree on something? I don't think that's ever happened before. :shocked:
Poptrogdor is what as known as a playstation "fanboy", if someone says they think the 360 or Wii is better than the PS3 at ANYTHING, he will be waiting in the shadows ready to pounce :D
Oh, thank god, normal service has resumed. We once again disagree. Phew :cool2:
Where have you been? Gears of war is inFAMOUS. So I am very confused by your comment.
Which reminds me. I've been meaning to play some inFAMOUS. Now, which box did I pack my 360 controller in?
Wait, why would you want your 360 controller? That's only better for 1st and 3rd person shooters. inFAMOUS is a platformer dumbass... who do you think you are? Frawlz? :tongue:
Anyway, another scintillating episode but I do have a couple of issues. I mean obviously drunk Frawlz... Classic. But this episode lacked 2 very basic and essential elements... and no, I don't mean PacMan and his opinions.
There was not only no 'Weeeeeeeeeeee!' this week but also no Roomahs intro. A show without Roomahs is like a Rothbart without Rothbeard, it's still funny but there's something missing. There doesn't even need to be any rumours, I just need my weekly fix of ridiculous arnold schwarzenegger impressions. :huh:
Having said that, it was good to have Rothbart back from his week of scouting for boys. :grin:
PopTrogdor 07-25-2009, 07:18 AM Yeah, I agree, I hate when people make general statements when it's just their opinion. He prefers the 360 controller cause it's what he's used to. Besides everyone knows the Dualshock 3 is the best in every way :tongue:
well i do prefer the 360 for certain games, one example Overlord, but i prefer my dualshock for others eg Oblivion (i actually got blisters from using the 360 controller with oblivion even though i played it for 50 hours, and i played the ps3 version for 370 hours and no problems, shows the difference really)
So its relative to the players play style and what they prefer, so it isnt just "this controller is best period"
karbaasi92 07-25-2009, 08:10 AM Another great episode. One of the funniest so far!:thumbsup:
Was a little disappointed by the loss of PMPB, but the "other guy" did a good job.
In the next episode I want PMPB and teh Roomah's back, thank you.
ThePianoMan 07-25-2009, 11:35 AM Favourite Game: Final Fantasy X
I'm not alone in having that as my favourite game ever, yippee :grin::lol:
Great episode, needed the PMPB's patented Weee tho... he's my favourite of your 3, don't like him being gone :undecided:
Pete... there was something there I didn't like about you, maybe it was the clear bias, or the fact you are a complete alien to me, seen as the gaming podcasts I listen to are the SG ones, but you weren't too great on the show on my opinion. Felt someone with more knowledge of the system would have been a better addition, and more knowledge of the SGC too, with the question bit. Just saying...
Harlequin 07-25-2009, 03:06 PM Great episode, needed the PMPB's patented Weee tho... he's my favourite of your 3, don't like him being gone :undecided:
Pete... there was something there I didn't like about you, maybe it was the clear bias, or the fact you are a complete alien to me, seen as the gaming podcasts I listen to are the SG ones, but you weren't too great on the show on my opinion. Felt someone with more knowledge of the system would have been a better addition, and more knowledge of the SGC too, with the question bit. Just saying...
PMPB was missing in action b/c his family took him to celebrate his birthday and lost track of time so he didn't make it to record.
Pete was called in literally last minute to guest host. He never claimed to be a PS3 expert and the guys had a great time recording the show together, which in my opinion was still entertaining. Oh and about his knowledge of SGC, he's extremely up to speed on what's the deal around here since he's also been active in the forums (particularly "the most beautiful woman thread" and reads the front page rather regularly. If you think I'm biased...perhaps I am considering I married him :cool2:
Just saying :wink2:
MrSoft 07-25-2009, 04:28 PM I must say, while I missed PMPB, I thought Peterocc actually did a pretty good job. I can't say I would have picked him for a Playstation Podcast, considering his 360 allegiance and lack of PS3 experience but as far as entertainment goes I think he was a good replacement.
TamarindLAZ 07-25-2009, 04:48 PM Very good episode as usual. Very funny too. :)
I hope the crew is reunited next episode, watch next episode Frawlz is missing! :lol:
Clap4DonMarco 07-25-2009, 07:22 PM Hey SG peoples. Just posting 'cause I'm new and want to be involved with the community. Blue show is the best of all of them, except the HDUD, but that one's on a different tier then all the rest! I NOW COMMAND THEE TO.. CLAP FOR DON MARCO!
TamarindLAZ 07-25-2009, 07:31 PM Hey SG peoples. Just posting 'cause I'm new and want to be involved with the community. Blue show is the best of all of them, except the HDUD, but that one's on a different tier then all the rest! I NOW COMMAND THEE TO.. CLAP FOR DON MARCO!
Welcome to SG. :)
Clap4DonMarco 07-25-2009, 07:58 PM Thanks! But I don't hear clapping...
Clap4DonMarco 07-25-2009, 08:35 PM By the way, should anyone PM me, I need some allies in my quest to rule the Internet!
Elbubblydingus 07-26-2009, 11:28 AM Clap clap clap for don Marco
peterocc 07-26-2009, 12:03 PM It's been a while since I've been here to the SG forums. I usually just peruse the "news" (hey that rhymed!) and make sure that the "Most Beautiful Woman in the World" thread (http://sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10835) is alive.
I was asked with 3 minutes notice last week to fill-in for PMPB. I told Rothbart & Frawlz, that my experience with PS3 was severely limited to Killzone 2 seeing as we recently obtained our PS3 a few weeks after E3.
Peterocc sucks at UFC 2009 (sorry I had to :tongue:)
Yes, I do. My stand-up is flawless but once it goes to the ground I'm a dead man.
Peterocc is a good guy. Definitely not a cock. If you judged people based on them saying stupid stuff, you must hate us too... ;)
He's also directly responsible for me having the best steak in my entire friggin' life, so yeah... he gets a pass. :lol:
That steak was phenomenal wasn't it? My mouth is watering now just thinking about it.
I'll go out on a limb here and say $100 price drop due to the (not-feature-reduced) PS3 Slim being released in September, but ultimately... the issue at hand here is what I mentioned on the show... I would bet a LARGE sum of money that Sony will be selling PS3s for YEARS after the 360 is discontinued, so it becomes a matter of semantics. I think i read last night that the 360 only has a 5M unit advantage in the US right now. Also, most people don't notice (http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php) that based on sales since launch, the PS3 is outperforming the 360, it's just that the 360 launched first. What I'm getting at is that it's not unreasonable for a slight shift for the worse on the 360 side combined with a slight shift for the better on the PS3 side to make a very real difference in the long run. Both systems have YEARS left, but if we're talking total units sold before they're each designated as "discontinued", it's foolish to claim certainty when saying the PS3 will never catch up. Which, clearly, is just my opinion... :tongue:
We also have to remember that Sony & Microsoft do not make money on console sales. The majority of their profits come from software sales & licensing. Microsoft makes additional capital from the sales of the Xbox Live service.
pff i'd say the same about anything, it doesn't really matter if he's a nice guy, he said a blank statement which for the most part isn't true, just because he thinks it makes it totally and definitely true? I think all the podcasts i listen to talk shit using sweeping generalisations and often makes me turn the podcast off, this is the first time ive actually voiced it, because it was so stupid
Yes it was my opinion and I'm fairly certain that if you were to do a general consensus among gamers regarding which controller is better for first & third person shooters, I'm pretty sure the majority would vote for the 360. I've done my own informal poll with with gamers from both sides and got the same result.
Oh yeah, in case you forgot. It's Sarcastic Gamer. Do you really listen to the shows for the news?
Pete... there was something there I didn't like about you, maybe it was the clear bias, or the fact you are a complete alien to me, seen as the gaming podcasts I listen to are the SG ones, but you weren't too great on the show on my opinion. Felt someone with more knowledge of the system would have been a better addition, and more knowledge of the SGC too, with the question bit. Just saying...
Sorry you didnt like me as the last-minute replacement. As I mentioned above, I was called in literally at the last minute. As far as knowledge of the SGC, between Twitter and the SG site I've come to know a lot of the SGC pretty well.
Edit - I don't know about the 'clear bias'. I appreciate the PS3 and all it's abilities but I feel that the 360 is the better machine for me. I'm sure my opinion will change as I begin to use the PS3 more in the future. I'm already up to my chest in 360 & Wii games at the moment. I have to start getting more PS3 games!
As for the 'completely alien' comment. The idea behind "community" is the fact that you should venture out beyond the gated walls of Sarcastic Gamer and check out other great gaming communities and/or podcasts. While Gamertag Radio may not be for you, I'm sure there are others that may suit you. Check out Destructoid, Talking About Games or any of the other sites within the Gamercast Network that Sarcastic Gamer is a member of or others outside the GCN.
I must say, while I missed PMPB, I thought Peterocc actually did a pretty good job. I can't say I would have picked him for a Playstation Podcast, considering his 360 allegiance and lack of PS3 experience but as far as entertainment goes I think he was a good replacement.
Thanks for the compliment! I never claimed to be a PS3 expert and probably never will be. My heart bleeds green with 3 red lights! :lol:
Regardless, thanks to Frawlz & Rothbeard for giving me a chance to participate in the SG PS Podcast. It was definitely one of the funniest podcasts I've ever been involved with it. Keep up the great work!
Death roW 07-26-2009, 01:42 PM Sony only loose 40$ on each console now, apparently.
Using last official numbers given by sony and microsoft - the xbox 360 was at 30million worldwide and the PS3 was at 24million worldwide.
Sony came into the market with the PS3 and was 10 million behind the 360 due to the year headstart in the US and around 18 months headstart in the EU, they are now around 6 - 7million behind them, they have managed to keep up and close the gap slightly at such a high price that people shouldn't even be questioning if the PS3 is *capable* of catching up.
No other console in history has sold as much as the PS3 has at the price point the PS3 has been and is currently at.
Now, the question is - will sony cut the price soon enough for them to catch the rest of the market that have not already bought next gen consoles to let them catch up?
I think the PS3 and 360, in a couple years time will end up being very close to each other - i don't think the PS3 will overtake it by any big numbers because i know microsoft will make sure that doesn't happen.
mitchayo 07-26-2009, 03:24 PM I swear it was this podcast that was saying how sony's aiming to sell units and microsoft aiming for profit or the other way round, so I guess that adds another dimension to the argument.
Did I really hear that on this podcast or was it playstation nation?
MrSoft 07-26-2009, 03:42 PM Thanks! But I don't hear clapping...
*clap* *clap* *clap* I ALWAYS clap for Don Marco. You say it, I let out a little round of applause. Anyways, welcome :grin:
peterocc 07-26-2009, 03:42 PM I swear it was this podcast that was saying how sony's aiming to sell units and microsoft aiming for profit or the other way round, so I guess that adds another dimension to the argument.
Did I really hear that on this podcast or was it playstation nation?
Nope. Wasn't on this 'cast.
That's not the point though, I don't think. Sony & MS both are aiming to make a profit. If they say otherwise, they are lying to your face. No company goes into business simply to sell units or break even. Profit is the sole reason. Now, companies may aim sell over a longer period than the competition, but the end result is still the same. Profit!!!
Remember, the PS3 & 360 are not the sole forms of revenue for these companies. Microsoft lives and dies by its software while Sony lives through Music, Movies and Multimedia Hardware (BR & DVD, Stereo Receivers, HDTV, etc) & Software.
mitchayo 07-26-2009, 05:54 PM Nope. Wasn't on this 'cast.
That's not the point though, I don't think. Sony & MS both are aiming to make a profit. If they say otherwise, they are lying to your face. No company goes into business simply to sell units or break even. Profit is the sole reason. Now, companies may aim sell over a longer period than the competition, but the end result is still the same. Profit!!!
I'm not an idiot, haha. I know the ultimate goal for any company is to make profit, look at the Wii, it doesnt push the industry/technology forward it just sells, fairplay to nintendo.
I'm sure rothbart was saying it :undecided:. One company had a personal goal of X mikllion units and one was profits from console or something, which actually makes sense. I am right of course i'm right, Sony are losing money on every PS3 they sell, so theyre not going to be able to aim for profit from consoles yet, I mean whats their goal going to be.. 'to only lose 300 million?'
Sony need as many units as possible out there so they can actualy make money on games and accessories.
Clap4DonMarco 07-26-2009, 08:06 PM Thanks Mr Soft. Honestly though, if a company wants to sell, a good way is to build hype and quite honestly that's the only reason Nintendo is doing so well. That, and there are more casual than hardcore gamers out there, and as long as there are, Sony and Microsoft will be largely left behind in favor of the casual game (Read:WII). Getting a Wii was the biggest mistake I have ever made. I have played a total of three good games for it, and I have played countless on the Xbox. I have to give Microsoft and Sony some kudos for not caving and turning into the next Nintendo.
Clap4DonMarco 07-26-2009, 08:08 PM But hey, if fun, excitement, entertainment, and depth aren't your thing, by all means go pick up a Wii. For what its worth, buy two, so when you realize your mistake you can use them as really cool looking bookends!
Zvolen 07-27-2009, 03:20 PM i just wish people would stop saying one controller is definitely "better at first and third person shooters" over another controller.
... stop making blank statements, and being obtuse by saying ...
I am obviously not upset about it as you are but it did get to me that Pete made blanket statement just to simply support his arguments. For instance Sony losing $100-$200 per console and that 70% of the world has a HD capable TV. I seriously doubt even 70% on the US has a HD capable TV let alone the world.
We also have to remember that Sony & Microsoft do not make money on console sales. The majority of their profits come from software sales & licensing. Microsoft makes additional capital from the sales of the Xbox Live service.
As for Rothbarts thoughts I was going to bring this up as well. It is well known that all of the companies make more money from software sales than hardware sales of a console. They want to sell more consoles to inturn sell software to those users. In that aspect Sony has more first party developers making more exclusive games where Microsoft is paying for exclusive content from third party developers. Just my thoughts.
murd3r monk3y 07-27-2009, 06:30 PM Been listening for a while now and I gotta say you guys run a very entertaining podcast. Keep it up Blue.
I had to register because there was something Pete failed to mention in his 360/ps3 discussions that I believe gets overlooked rather frequently. What does the bottom line look like after both companies factor in their system repairs. Microsoft has been doing free repairs now for how long now(and didn't they recently expand). For the most part Sony has charged their customers to repair the systems. Even though Sony may be losing out on new system sales, their repair costs should be able to offset some of those costs with the repair fees where Microsoft is losing labor and parts expenses. Granted it can be argued the quality of those parts was poor to begin with(in both systems, especially those from launch day)
Looking forward to many great discussions and a few good laughs from this board.
Thanks
monk3y
rothbart 07-27-2009, 07:30 PM I like how the regular crew can talk out their asses, yet we have Peterocc on and suddenly people get angry with him because he basically said everyone knows the 360 controller is better.
I seem to recall several instances where we made similar blanket statements... Frawlz thinks just about everything is just like Gears, he also thinks all PixelJunk games are garbage, I think most FPS games are twitchy borefests and I can't stand any RPGs.... I also think all 360s are unreliable failures waiting to happen.
Peterocc said what he felt was true and did a fine job helping us keep the three-host chemistry going. if I could have a controller based on the 360 controller, with the dpad of the DualShock 3 (and swapping the location of the dpad & left stick), tossing in the SIXAXIS motion control... I'd have one of the best controllers made in my opinion. We all have to remember this stuff is just opinion and frankly, I'm in line with Peterocc... if you were to poll 10M gamers, my guess is the majority would say they prefer the 360 controller. It's a remarkably solid controller (with exception to the crappy dpad... that thing's truly horrible, while the SIXAXIS/DualShock 3's dpad is great.)
Clap4DonMarco 07-27-2009, 08:10 PM I agree with Rothbart. People complain all the time in more angering ways than any guys on a podcast. Go after them. If you don't like people giving their opinions and instead want your ear filled with whatever you want to hear, stop listening to podcasts and go talk to your mom.
Frawlz 07-28-2009, 10:22 PM Did anyone even notice I was drunk?
Clap4DonMarco 07-28-2009, 10:48 PM Never crossed my mind.
RaiseHavok 07-28-2009, 11:45 PM Did anyone even notice I was drunk?
I just assume that you are drunk for every episode.
TamarindLAZ 07-29-2009, 12:10 AM You hinted at it, but nope didn't notice.
Sounded like the same Frawlz we've heard in the previous episodes.
Chubbaluphigous 07-29-2009, 12:22 AM Did anyone even notice I was drunk?
I totally noticed. You said it at the beginning. You did a little bit of slurring, and were slightly more confused than normal.
Clap4DonMarco 07-29-2009, 04:31 PM Normal is slightly more confused. Or is it? The world thinks so. And now YOU are slightly more confused!
Frawlz 07-29-2009, 05:49 PM Wow... maybe I should drink more often.
From what I hear... the more I drink, the better looking I get.
Clap4DonMarco 07-29-2009, 05:56 PM The more WE drink, the better looking you get.
PacManPolarBear 07-29-2009, 09:15 PM SG-PSP Episode 62: PMPB Addendum (http://sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=374066&postcount=1)
Clap4DonMarco 07-30-2009, 11:03 PM yup...
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