For those that don't know, Leona Lewis has recorded the title track for Final Fantasy 13, please sign this petition against this happening - http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/32093.html

Why? She's a really good singer.

Have you ever heard her slaughtering of "run"?

Yes but that's not the song that's going to be in the game.

It just pisses me off that FF13 emphasises on original music yet the title track is by a manufactured pop "act"

It just pisses me off that FF13 emphasises on original music yet the title track is by a manufactured pop "act"
Isn't manufactured pop stuff like Girls Aloud who can't actually sing for sh*t? Because i've heard Leona live and she is rather good

She was on X-Factor. Nuff Said.

She was on X-Factor. Nuff Said.
Yes, how dare people with natural talent become successful.

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Just for you Prime Judas :D It is a very girly song though

She obviously doesn't have natural talent if she has to go on one of these shows to prove it. Also, how come it's always the young a pretty people that win?

She obviously doesn't have natural talent if she has to go on one of these shows to prove it. Also, how come it's always the young a pretty people that win?
Erm, she does have talent, maybe she just didn't have access to a way to get her talent noticed. Didn't think about that did you?

It is pretty easy to get you talent noticed if you put the slightest bit of effort in, for example, my brothers band aren't very good and have so far played on gig and already have about 12 offers from radio stations and music festivals.

It is pretty easy to get you talent noticed if you put the slightest bit of effort in, for example, my brothers band aren't very good and have so far played on gig and already have about 12 offers from radio stations and music festivals.
Yes and Leona Lewis is very good and has had a number 1 album and a few very successful singles :thumbsup:

To be honest, it of course is a marketing ploy between the record company that write the music/words that she screeches out and Sqenix. People who like her "music" will buy the game and people who like the game might buy the "music"

To be honest, it of course is a marketing ploy between the record company that write the music/words that she screeches out and Sqenix. People who like her "music" will buy the game and people who like the game might buy the "music"
Way to change subject, and is that not a good marketing ploy although i doubt music fans will be interested in hardcore JRPG Final Fantasy 13

Yeah, I also think hardcore JRPG fan wont really be interested in nonsey pop "music"

Yeah, I also think hardcore JRPG fan wont really be interested in nonsey pop "music"
Good thing they wont buy the game for the theme song

Another petition? I hope it is as successful as the Left 4 Dead 2 one. :thumbsup:

in the end who cares, at least there's someone (resonably) famous from the UK singing on the soundtrack, which is always a good thing :grin: :tongue:

To be honest, it of course is a marketing ploy between the record company that write the music/words that she screeches out and Sqenix. People who like her "music" will buy the game and people who like the game might buy the "music"

You think that the same demographic that buys Leona Lewis songs, will have even heard of Final Fantasy? If it a marketing ploy, as you cynically suggest it is, then it's a pretty bad one.

Ok Prime Judas, we get it, you don't like Leona Lewis. That's fine. Doesn't make her a bad singer because a "random dude on the internetz doesn't like her".

I'm just saying her style of "music" doesn't exactly fit with Final Fantasy. The game is becoming more "Westernised" which is saddening.

You do know FFs previous "original music" is by the Japanese equivalent of what your calling westernized. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's that much deeper. And even if, they're not a government working to please you, they're video game makers trying to localize their piece of work to a wider audience.

^It is fact that many Japanese developers are going bankrupt because they're not focusing towards the wider market. At the end of the day it is all business, there's little us gamers can do unless we actually f***ing boycott the game; but I think MW2 PC and L4D2 has proven that gamers rather have the game than boycott.

We boycott/make petitions because we see potential for the game to be better. Not for nit-picky shit like one friking song by leona lewis on FF13.

^I was making a general point and the same point does relate to this even if the very idea is stupid. If you want to make a change in a game you've got to boycott it. If it doesn't get much backing and you're solely relying on a petition then you are doomed to fail.

I'm okay with this because I won't be playing the game anyway.

Wow, hasn't anything taught you that you need to TRUST SQUARE ENIX? It's a song, if you don't want to hear it then stick your fingers in your ears and scream at your TV set, simple as that XD

I mean come on guys, it's not like Square have made bad music choices before. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtjemoFXD4Q)

Are the lyrics actually in the game, from the trailer, it doesn't sound like it.

She obviously doesn't have natural talent if she has to go on one of these shows to prove it. Also, how come it's always the young a pretty people that win?

WOW... so if Whitney Houston or Elvis presley were on X-factor they would be instantly talentless? Have you actually heard Leona Lewis? Either you're tone deaf or deluded?

How comes young pretty people win? Because its the 21st century, where were you when ,Boyzone Backstreet Boys, Steps happened it sells CD's and its been happening for years.

How comes young pretty people win? Because its the 21st century, where were you when ,Boyzone Backstreet Boys, Steps happened it sells CD's and its been happening for years. The queston was rhetorical

Don't even play that shit, because you know people will answer and you don't want to have to take it.

Have you listened to her songs, or are you just making baseless claims because she was on a talent show designed for people to get their names out there. She's a good singer.

Do you have any logical reason why she shouldn't have ONE song probabaly at the VERY BEGINNING and in the CREDITS (a grand total of 6 or so minutes when you factor in the average length of a song and then put it in the credits that you'll skip anyway) in Final Fantasy XIII.

The queston was rhetorical

That was the least rehtorical question, and besides even if it is a rhetorical question it can have an answer if the answer disproves the statement.

The queston was rhetorical

That was the least rehtorical question, and besides even if it is a rhetorical question it can have an answer if the answer disproves the statement.

It was rhetorical because I knew the answer, in the music business only pretty people become successful, even if they don't write or even sing their own songs they will still be successful.

You still haven't given me that logical reason. I'm waiting...or do you not have one because you're busy being uneducated?

It was rhetorical because I knew the answer, in the music business only pretty people become successful, even if they don't write or even sing their own songs they will still be successful.

So now your opinion is fact?

I'm guessing you haven't actually heard the song yet, How can you possibly know how good it is if you haven't heard it...

UGH! BECAUSE Leona Lewis is a terrible singer and a product of...ugh...X-FACTOR! Only HORRIBLE people and manufactured people come out of there. Nothing to do with talent whatsoever...ugh!

Something like that, I'd suppose.

I'm guessing you haven't actually heard the song yet, How can you possibly know how good it is if you haven't heard it...People can claim she's a talented singer all they like, but the fact of the matter is she makes terrible music because that's what appeals to her audience, a thronging plebeian mass devoid of any musical knowledge.

The song will totally suck.

Can we move on to bigger issues, like developers not letting me skip their credits. Why do I care about Mark Shwartz in Q&A?

Can we move on to bigger issues, like developers not letting me skip their credits. Why do I care about Mark Shwartz in Q&A?You don't, sure, but Mark certainly does.

He worked totally hard on providing you with entertainment, the credits are a way of acknowledging that.

Yes. I know they deserve acknowledgment, but the credits don't make me respect him, they don't make me appreciate him. The game is what makes me appreciate the development team. I might not know his name...but I still won't know it after watching the credits. Naughty Dog employees deserve all the appreciation I can give them, but I can only do that by praising the team, because I'll never remember individuals. Credits are flawed, so in my opinion they should at least be skipable.

Leona was probably the only person on 'that show' with talent. But yeah she did murder run

I think everyone is ignoring the fact that this will completely ruin the game.

I remember being excited for Oblivion, but when I heard the menu music, I turned off my console in anger and never played the game again.

I think everyone is ignoring the fact that this will completely ruin the game.

I remember being excited for Oblivion, but when I heard the menu music, I turned off my console in anger and never played the game again.

I hope your being sarcasm. :undecided:

I hope your being sarcasm. :undecided:

Well it seems like the perfect place to be sarcastic when discussing games so...:wink2:

For those that don't know, Leona Lewis has recorded the title track for Final Fantasy 13, please sign this petition against this happening - http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/32093.html

no but i can sign the "Keep leona lewis in final fantasy 13 to piss off prime judas" petition stop being a baby and face the facts, young singers sell and that's what they both want, lego made a contract with traveler's tales but that dosen't make them terriable people, it makes them lazy people but the lego games are selling well.

Leona lewis is a good singer even if she had to use the X factor to get into fame so why shouldn't she voice the soundtrack? Does it need to be japanese jibberish for you to buy the game? I'm guessing playing an FF game is the cloest your going to get to learning japanese. Square enix obviously want to move forward and bring out a version that has as much meaning as the japanese version which means actually understanding what the singer is saying.

Your stupidity is just hilarious, singer's don't write their actually music? Well apart from the remixes (which are dumb and involve little to no talent) i think you'll find most musicans actually do write their own music and you still need talent otherwise your just a young person who can't sing for crap and can't write music for crap. Just import the game Gaming Judas and stop whinging.

i still dont get the point of your rant Judas. Leona Lewis is one of the best female voices out there. Why the hate?

i still dont get the point of your rant Judas. Leona Lewis is one of the best female voices out there. Why the hate?

She's not Japanese enough? That's the only reason I can think of as to why he doesn't want her singing in it.

I listened to the song (while seeing the youtube comments erupt over it being in FF) and it's a good song. It's not to my personal tastes but Leona is a good singer. It's hard to see the song fitting in at the moment because none of us have seen the opening scenes so maybe the context will change. I'll reserve my judgement till then.

That's the one thing I'm a little iffy about. I mean...we're English speaking individuals for the most part (if not that, then we don't understand Japanese at least). The songs before were in Japanese, so we could give two shits what the context was. Now that we can understand it......

But my beef is not with Leona or her voice, as that is not a legit gripe (and I wouldn't gripe anyway. I enjoy her voice).

Leona is a great singer but I don't like the sort of music she sings. I'm not excited for FF13 for a completely different reason. Such as - they haven't made a good original FF in the last 8 years.

As long as Nobuo Uematsu is still involved, the music will be just fine.

I mean come on guys, it's not like Square have made bad music choices before. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtjemoFXD4Q)

I actually like that song.

As for Leona Lewis doing a song for the game, well I didn't like the idea at first but as long as it fits the atmosphere and suits the game then I'm all for it.

To be honest, it of course is a marketing ploy between the record company that write the music/words that she screeches out and Sqenix. People who like her "music" will buy the game and people who like the game might buy the "music"

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Shes not a bad singer, and dont they get Japanese pop stars to sing songs too? Whats wrong with the American ones but so good about the Japanese ones?

Also, online petitions dont work, especially ones that no one cares about.

EDIT: They should make her sing in Japanese. I would give Square back all the respect I lost for them when they made Advent Children if they did this.

They should make her sing in Japanese. I would give Square back all the respect I lost for them when they made Advent Children if they did this.

Voila! Bob's you're teapot :thumbsup:

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Shes not a bad singer, and dont they get Japanese pop stars to sing songs too? Whats wrong with the American ones but so good about the Japanese ones?

Also, online petitions dont work, especially ones that no one cares about.

EDIT: They should make her sing in Japanese. I would give Square back all the respect I lost for them when they made Advent Children if they did this.

i think square enix should force judas to type all he's posts in japanese then i wouldn't have to put up with he's dumb petition

Ugh, X-factor is everywhere, radio, TV, newspapers, the internet. Games are the one place X-factor hasn't got to, it's the one safe haven for anyone with a at least half a brain and a good taste in music. We can't let this happen!

anyone signing this petition is really a moron. its one song. has it affected you so much that knowing its going to be in the game, you get riled up as if someone had done something wrong to your family pet. you can ignore it. you will only hear it once and it wont again except when you replay the game. its like not going to a movie because a person you hate (actor or celeb of another profession) is in the movie as a small role. just ignore it.

Just be glad that it's not John and Edward singing the theme song...

Ugh, X-factor is everywhere, radio, TV, newspapers, the internet. Games are the one place X-factor hasn't got to, it's the one safe haven for anyone with a at least half a brain and a good taste in music. We can't let this happen!

No-one has the x-factor this year. Jedward probably did but they've gone now. :sad:

yeah nobody likes the x factor only the big crowd of lemmings who still believe it's entertainment to watch hopeless people sing in front of simon cowell, he only does the x factor becasue it gives him a confidence boost to insult people.

So I actually like this song....but a petition? Really?

So I actually like this song....but a petition? Really?

don't worry nerdboy if modern warfare 2 taught us anything it's that the guy's doing the petition will give up and end up buying it anyway.

don't worry nerdboy if modern warfare 2 taught us anything it's that the guy's doing the petition will give up and end up buying it anyway.

Lol, indeed.

I just want to say to the guy who gave me bad rep, thanks, I was just expressing my opinion.

I just want to say to the guy who gave me bad rep, thanks, I was just expressing my opinion.

Does it matter? Most people give me negative rep for expressing my opinion.

Honestly (and this is just me,) I think they should go back to doing to songs in japanese. They could have the cheesiest lyrics ever, but I wouldn't know it. It's a beautiful language. Compare THESE two and tell me which one you like more.
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No comparison. Japanese wins.

Honestly (and this is just me,) I think they should go back to doing to songs in japanese. They could have the cheesiest lyrics ever, but I wouldn't know it. It's a beautiful language. Compare THESE two and tell me which one you like more.
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No comparison. Japanese wins.

To be honest i thought they were both just as good, also to prime judas you wasn't just expressing your opinion you made a whole thread and petition because of your hated of a singer, which apparently means everybody has to listen to your type of music, your just as bad as simon Cowell, all people like you two want is for everyone to like what you like and if anyone likes anything different, their stupid. THAT is why you were given bad rep.

OH NO SOMEONE WHO MAKES MONEY FOR THIER TALENTS TRYS TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY GIVING A COMPANY RIGHTS TO THIER SONG
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
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Well, Kiss Me Good-Bye is decent, I have it on my zune even, bu tnot as good as Why, or Suteki Da Ne.

OH NO SOMEONE WHO MAKES MONEY FOR THIER TALENTS TRYS TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY GIVING A COMPANY RIGHTS TO THIER SONG
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
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I know it's horrible! How dare Leona lewis take advantage of her talent to make money, it's disgraceful! Those poor Japanese singers are going to miss out because a horrible nasty British singer had to put their song forward for one final fantasy game out of all 14 of them!