View Full Version : Inverted Yay or Nay?


Andrew
01-03-2008, 06:01 PM
I love inverted controls.
Post your opinion here.

Whitefire351
01-03-2008, 06:04 PM
yay or nay on what

Andrew
01-03-2008, 06:05 PM
Do you like inverted controls?

strika234
01-03-2008, 06:05 PM
...I think its wether you like playing games with an inverted control scheme.

I only like them for flying games, but otherwise, no.

Bacontastic
01-03-2008, 06:14 PM
I've always played without, so I can probably never make the switch :)

It all really comes down to personal preference.

Chasestar989
01-03-2008, 06:17 PM
Andrew,
Inverted controlls are for wimps and commies. J/k. I don't like them myself but I know lots of people that love them. Good poll though. Hey is this Drew from Houston?

Hollowcow
01-03-2008, 06:26 PM
I prefer normal (not inverted) controls in everything but flight simulators.

iPlayPC
01-03-2008, 06:43 PM
I love inverted controls.
Post your opinion here.

You're the only lover of inverted controls so far.

AblativMeatshld
01-03-2008, 06:53 PM
Nope. I use inverted controls exclusively. It's a hold over from playing x-wing and tie-fighter for 10 hours a day, every day, for years.

Ever since then, it's been inverted mouse/controls...

Artemas
01-03-2008, 06:53 PM
I never could get the hang of inverts.

Mr Eibmoz
01-03-2008, 06:57 PM
Real men invert.

viatrophy
01-03-2008, 06:58 PM
Can't stand inverted.

Nor do I understand how people play with it. :p

Garwalker
01-03-2008, 07:03 PM
The only thing I play inverted is the classic flight sim like Xwing or Wing Commander.

Clak
01-03-2008, 08:48 PM
HATE IT!

Werrdd
01-03-2008, 09:20 PM
Nay.

Whitefire351
01-03-2008, 10:09 PM
wow we hate this lol

AblativMeatshld
01-03-2008, 10:10 PM
I've rarely seen so many wrong people in one place...

Whitefire351
01-03-2008, 10:12 PM
I've rarely seen so many wrong people in one place...

wrong ppl??? what do you meen

CivilizedBacon
01-03-2008, 10:20 PM
I despise inverted controls. I don't even use them on flight simulators.

AblativMeatshld
01-03-2008, 10:22 PM
wrong ppl??? what do you meen

People who don't invert their controls... :)

Doesn't get much more wrong, man.

CivilizedBacon
01-03-2008, 10:23 PM
People who don't invert their controls... :)

Doesn't get much more wrong, man.

lol. Is it possible to have a wrong opinion?

Whitefire351
01-03-2008, 10:24 PM
People who don't invert their controls... :)

Doesn't get much more wrong, man.

ok ok im going to admit somthing and you all can laught at me I dont know what inver controls meens

CivilizedBacon
01-03-2008, 10:30 PM
ok ok im going to admit somthing and you all can laught at me I dont know what inver controls meens

It means when you hit up on the thumbstick(assuming you're using a gamepad), you look down.

Whitefire351
01-03-2008, 10:32 PM
It means when you hit up on the thumbstick(assuming you're using a gamepad), you look down.

wait wait wait this whole thing is about if you peek at your controler wile playing games?

AblativMeatshld
01-03-2008, 10:34 PM
wait wait wait this whole thing is about if you peek at your controler wile playing games?

lol... no

For FPSs especially, when you push "up" (or forward, whatever you call it), the game looks down at the ground.

CivilizedBacon
01-03-2008, 10:34 PM
No. Sorry if I misworded that. It means that if you want your character to look down, you hit up on the thumbstick,.

Whitefire351
01-03-2008, 10:36 PM
No. Sorry if I misworded that. It means that if you want your character to look down, you hit up on the thumbstick,.

o0o0o0o0o ok sorry i used to be just a rpg'er lol

Chayce
01-03-2008, 10:48 PM
Real men invert.

I must be a real man then...:p

Garrand
01-03-2008, 10:53 PM
Inverted on a stick, normal on mouse.

SWSilentkiller
01-03-2008, 11:24 PM
depends on the game and what I am playing it on

NecrisJ1MM
01-04-2008, 03:15 AM
Inverted? Lol... no. WTF you think your controlling an airplane? Up is up. Down is down.

:]

Mr Eibmoz
01-04-2008, 05:07 AM
Inverted on a stick, normal on mouse.

You sir need help. Quickly!

t3hgamb1t
01-04-2008, 05:12 AM
I agree with Garrand... its weird im used to it that way =]

ShockwaveLover
01-04-2008, 05:38 AM
This topic is making my mind invert....

Ploogle
01-04-2008, 10:23 AM
I suck enough at FPS games to not need inverted controls complicating things. If I DID get addicted to inverted, then what about those games (scarce though they be) that don't support it? I'd be screwed.

FallenHeero
01-04-2008, 02:13 PM
nay. i only no 1 person who uses inverted

Yousty
01-04-2008, 02:29 PM
Ask any gamer who's been around since the beginning of gaming and he'll tell you inverted used to be your only option (why do you think almost every FPS defaults to inverted?). The reason it seems awkward to a lot of people is usually because they haven't been playing video games for years or flight simulators.

I read a great article somewhere a couple years back that explained why inverted feels natural to a lot of people (besides being used to flight controls). It went something like this:

People who prefer inverted controls are envisioning themselves as the character they're playing opposed to non-inverted players who place themselves on the outside looking in. Inverted players are in the game while non-inverted players are looking at the game. To understand why up is down and down is up imagine that the joystick controlling the way you look is actually the video game characters head i.e. the top of the joystick is the top of the character's head (or imagine your head is a joystick to make things easier to understand). So if you think about it that way then when you push up on the joystick, it's like you're pushing the top of the video game character's head (or yours) down which makes you look down. And when you pull back it's like you're pulling the top of the head back which makes you look up.

I know it sounds kinda complicated but it actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

Personally it doesn't matter how you play as long as you feel comfortable with it, but I have always been and always will be an inverted player. Rockin' it old school!:cool:

GamerzGirl
01-04-2008, 03:55 PM
Omg, Only for like flying airplanes.

I can't do it on H3 or CoD4....

I can't stand it...

Drem
01-04-2008, 04:04 PM
Well put yousty

V3NOM
01-04-2008, 07:15 PM
Yay.

The first game I ever played that was first-person-ish was Ace Combat 2 on the original Playstation. The controls are inverted by default in that game and I was too used to inversion by the time I learned that there was a setting to change it to normal. I've been playing inverted ever since.

Duffman X18
01-04-2008, 07:27 PM
For games like Ace Combat, yes. Other games, I'm not sure. Haven't really tried inverted.

Kuhnaydeein
01-04-2008, 08:16 PM
Vote:
Yay

Yes, my belly button is inverted. Why do you want to know?

Klown
01-05-2008, 02:32 AM
I used to get so frustrated when playing shooters on n64 with my friend due to the controllers always being inverted. I simply couldn't master it so he beat me every single time.

grunt birthday clown
01-05-2008, 02:47 AM
na...it sucks i cant get used to it ...

Master Ritter
01-06-2008, 05:32 PM
I only go for the inversion when I play flight sims, but I've really got nothing for or against either.

It seemed like more games had standard controls already in place, and I simply adapted as needed.

yourshadow
01-06-2008, 07:34 PM
inverted is hard to get used to, so I stick with regular

Griffin999
01-07-2008, 04:53 PM
yousty... you could just as easily say that it's your chin and moving up looks up. I don't think about moving my head down when I want to look up it's more immersive to me to think: move vission up, look up. in real life i don't just move the back of my head I move all of it why would people feel that moving down looks up??? to me what you said is cow is table logic.

MurpDog
01-08-2008, 03:45 PM
depends on the game I'm playing

darkwonders
01-08-2008, 03:53 PM
yes and no. Only game I use is for is in Warhawk, and that's when I'm flying a warhawk. But when I go on foot, it switches back to not inverted.

And No. I've never gotten confused. I'm that damn good :p

kingofnoland
01-08-2008, 07:44 PM
i'm another nay im afraid.

I dont get too confused by inverted controls but I do love those first few seconds in a plane before you realise its inverted controls when you send your plane heading straight for the ground, have a few moments of pure panic before you recover at the last second. I do that alot. :cool:

Mallico
01-09-2008, 12:01 AM
The only time I even consider inverted controls is flying games, and even then I usually change the default to non inverted. I can play inverted just fine, and sometimes I do, but it`s best to stick to just one so non inverted wins for me.

Stranger411
01-09-2008, 10:30 PM
My buddy thinks that anyone who doesn't go inverted is a noob. Of course, I think that he is a moron in that respect seeing as how I have never played inverted and I am still just as good of a gamer as he is.

mashedPenguin
01-10-2008, 12:56 PM
I've been using inverted controls for everything since at least Quake 1 (which defaulted to inverted). It just feels more natural to me. But I guess with 12+ years of mouse looking to go by I just can't imagine ever changing.

My younger brother changed from inverted to regular a few years back because he thought for some bizarre reason that it would make him better at CS. It didn't :)

balaamsafe
04-23-2008, 05:46 PM
I personaly hate it when people invert aiming
i have friends that are soo picky they invert it when they come to my house (cod knows who this is), which, when we are swapping turns after each death in a multiplayer game, becomes very tedious pausing and changing controls each time.
so? is invert the devils work or the way to play?

DeathByWaffle
04-23-2008, 05:48 PM
I do not use invert in any game, it just messes me up. I am sure I could spend the time to learn it and have it work fine, but hey, I'm lazy :D

Ryobin
04-23-2008, 06:09 PM
invert doesnt work for me at alll, the only games that i could play invert are flight simulators, i can understand about that but if im holding a gun and i look up then i want to look up.

Truth N Justice
04-23-2008, 06:10 PM
when i am playing a FPS i dont invert because im not flying a freakin plane . If i was i maybe i would . Inverted is for noobie's

Mr Eibmoz
04-23-2008, 06:11 PM
We've done this before. Invert is natural, non inverted is for silly people.

Inverted is for noobie's

Thats quite funny becuase you'll find that most noobs dont invert and most pep-le who have been gaming the longest always invert.

heyfling
04-23-2008, 06:22 PM
I have to play inverted. I am accustomed to it because that is the way N64 shooters like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark played. For someone who didn't own a console from last generation, it is pretty hard to change.

DeathByWaffle
04-23-2008, 06:29 PM
We've done this before. Invert is natural, non inverted is for silly people.



Thats quite funny becuase you'll find that most noobs dont invert and most pep-le who have been gaming the longest always invert.

Where is your research to prove that? *prays to god that Mr Eibmoz doesn't have research*

Spoofmaniac
04-23-2008, 06:30 PM
I only use Invert for Flight games. It's weird in anything else for me.
I never got used to it. I'm not a noob either. I hope.

Mr Eibmoz
04-23-2008, 06:35 PM
Where is your research to prove that? *prays to god that Mr Eibmoz doesn't have research*Scientists ran some research a while back and discoverd that people with more than 7 years of playing shooters had a 94% chance of playing inverted. Newer gamers had a 84% chance of scrawling "uhm, but up is up lolz!" across the test.

Thing is, look at the floor, now look at the roof. Your heads inverted, why should your controls not be? Noninverted controls are so unnatural to use.

DeathByWaffle
04-23-2008, 06:41 PM
Noninverted controls are so unnatural to use.

That may be your opinion, but just from people I know and the results from this poll so far, it seems as people think inverted controls are the ones unnatural to use.

Anski
04-23-2008, 06:42 PM
You know what I hate? People who hate other people for choosing a control scheme that is different than the one they swear by.

This has been gone over many many times. I came across a very good comment before that I like to use for these discussions. This is from memory so not exact to whoever said it when I read it however long ago... but it was something like this:
If the person playing is thinking about moving the crosshairs around the screen, they usually play non-inverted. In contrast, it seems that people who play with an inverted y-axis tend to think about moving the character.

Think about it, when you move your head to look down, you "push" forward on it, and when you lean your head back to look up, you "pull" it back.

What really gets me is WHY IS IT A BIG DEAL ANYWAY? It's not like someone is ruining your game because they like to play with an inverted y-axis!

Mr Eibmoz
04-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Its ok, you just dont know any better ^_^

DeathByWaffle
04-23-2008, 06:44 PM
Its ok, you just dont know any better ^_^

How can I stay mad at you when you are oh so witty! :lol:

Ryobin
04-23-2008, 06:49 PM
after a little trial run anski has it right, i have played since the n64 and olday days, but i still play non inverted,its just the way that suits me, and if you look at the poll results its almost 50/50 so wouldnt it just be easier to say, well this is what works for me for these reasons instead of "OMG WTF BBQ inverted is LOLZ what n00btards *snort* ill ownulate any u noobzillahs that use inverted!"

Anski
04-23-2008, 06:52 PM
and if you look at the poll results its almost 50/50 so wouldnt it just be easier to say, well this is what works for me for these reasons instead of "OMG WTF BBQ inverted is LOLZ what n00btards *snort* ill ownulate any u noobzillahs that use inverted!"

Thanks for this part... it just floors me that the issue of inverted/non-inverted is an issue in the first place.

Ryobin
04-23-2008, 06:57 PM
if you look up at the title of the poll it says "how to play" when it should say "how DO YOU play" even if 99% of people chose to go one way that still doesnt make one correct and the other wrong.

slik1000
04-23-2008, 07:04 PM
I play non-inverted, I know people who play inverted though. The reason that you would want to play inverted is because it is the movement in your neck that you are simulating, whereas non-inverted players are moving their forward-most arm. There isn't a wrong way of playing, by the pattern in my friends it seems that a more mathematical kind of person plays non-inverted, whereas an artistic (painter/musician/anything arty) player uses inverted.

Ever noticed that with any of your friends?

PrimevilKneivel
04-23-2008, 11:29 PM
why the @#$@ should any one care how anyone else plays?

Do what you want.

Emophia
04-24-2008, 10:31 AM
We've done this before. Invert is natural, non inverted is for silly people.



Thats quite funny becuase you'll find that most noobs dont invert and most pep-le who have been gaming the longest always invert.

That's because they're old, and you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Like how aim properly, using non inverted controls, like me.

Well since you're probably retired you have plenty of time to try to learn it right.

MJBarret
04-24-2008, 10:32 AM
Inverted always! :thumbsup:

I tend to think of it in terms of the camera. Pulling it down will tilt the view upward, pushing it up will tilt the view downward.

It's the only way it feels comfortable ta me.

TheQwert
04-24-2008, 11:36 AM
It's a yay for me. I've never been able to play non-inverted. I think Yousty put it best, it just feels more natural, to me at least.

I hated Ninja Gaiden Black when I couldn't invert in first-person mode. My arrows never landed where they should. :(

mrpuggywuggy
04-24-2008, 12:55 PM
I don't like inverted controls, I have always used non inverted controls.

dark sora
04-24-2008, 05:07 PM
non inverted for me...always

PopTrogdor
04-25-2008, 05:49 AM
i hated them, i hate inverted, its like saying up is down, black is white and so on

RatTail
04-25-2008, 04:07 PM
Non inverted always.

DanceDance
04-25-2008, 04:16 PM
I play invert for FPS and flying controls, but for some reason, I just can't use them for third person games like Gears or Dead Rising.

Usually my way of explaining it to people when I inevitably get the "How can you play like that?" question is this: If someone jammed that thumbstick into the back of your skull (which is exactly what it is when you're playing an FPS) that's how the controls would be.

- DanceDance

iBrick
04-27-2008, 01:04 PM
lol. Is it possible to have a wrong opinion?

Inverted on a stick, normal on mouse.
It's good to see there are normal people here.:roll:

Maybe it's because I am a control freak? I like to think that I've got a thumb on the person's head, and when I push forward, his head moves down.:tongue:


BTW, for a site with "Sarcasm" in the name, a lot of it sure is lost on some people here.

Masselli18
04-27-2008, 02:14 PM
non inverted is easier for me but i understand what the people mean when they explain how they use inverted

Adamski UK
05-20-2008, 07:58 AM
I wondered if there was a poll about this...

I was suprised at the amount of gamers who don't invert, myself being a fan of reversing the laws of physics.

For me, it is like sticking a thumbstick on the top of an Action Man's head.
(GI Joe for those over the puddle)

Jacob816
05-21-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm inverted b/c I used to play Star Wars Starfighter so much, and pulling back to look up just made sense when I carried it over from flying to looking.