i have finally saved up enough for a new generation game system. but i dont know if i should get a 360 or ps3. can anyone help me decide?

360. And you probably want to make this a poll.

thanks thats probobly a good idea

360!

I love my 360. :)

360:
good things:A good machine with the best library of games today.
bad thing:RROD, disk read errors, scratching disks and makes allot of noise.
Have to pay extra to get all the things Ps3 offers from the box or free.

Ps3
good things: Blu-ray, allot of good things and games coming to it this year like killzone 2,MGS, grand turismo, GOW 3,home and final fantasy.
Bad things: has a smaller current library of AAA games. in some opinions worse online.

I would say Ps3 if you can wait to get all of the great things coming this year, 360 if you cant wait and want to play some of the best titles of 2007.

Get which ever one suits you better...

In the end it's your decision, make it yourself...

if your looking in the short term then the 360 would seem the best. but for the long term a ps3 is the better option, it has the better games coming in the future and i think it will be supported much longer than the 360 will be. i predict there will be a new xbox coming in a year or two. so get the ps3, then get the new xbox720(or whatever) and play all the 360titles on it that you feel you missed out on.

Like stated before, this is personal preference.

Try them both out, and pick the one which suits you the best.

Get which ever one suits you better...

In the end it's your decision, make it yourself...

in the end i will probably do that but i would also like the opinions of other gammers of which system is better

There is no "better" system. It all comes down to what you want out of your system and what games you want to play.

If FPS are your love then without a doubt get a 360. They have by far the most and best FPS games and they always will.

If you want MGS and Final Fantasy type games then PS3 is your best option. Also if you're wanting an HD movie player then go with the PS3.


It really all comes down to what you want from your console. My vote would be for the 360, but that's only because their games fit me better.

There is no "better" system. It all comes down to what you want out of your system and what games you want to play.

If FPS are your love then without a doubt get a 360. They have by far the most and best FPS games and they always will.

If you want MGS and Final Fantasy type games then PS3 is your best option. Also if you're wanting an HD movie player then go with the PS3.


It really all comes down to what you want from your console. My vote would be for the 360, but that's only because their games fit me better.

Listen to this man,
He is a man of great wisdom! :D

i'd say a PS3, only because of it's seeming longevity. the 360 is good if you want "first wave" next-gen games, but i think the PS3 will pretty much dominate starting this year.

ya i will go on a limb here and ask u...
what kind of games do u like to play man
if more american style-360
if more all around+rpg and adventure games-ps3

by american i mean sports, guns, and cars!

defenetly more "american game" but i played resistance fom at my friend house and loved it

you can also find many american games on the Ps3,
shooter:Resestance fom,COD 4,warhawk,Haze,MGS,Killzone2
cars:Grand turimso, bournout paradise
and all sports games are multi-platform, but we Ps3 owners see many delays and bad ports in most multi-platform games :(

how much is xbox live a year?

50. which isn't bad. I just got a 360 for Xmas, but I've been playing my PS3 nonstop still... Partly because I had COD4 for that, so that's what I've been playing.

with ps3 you will get a much more varied range of titles to play, the only genre i think is missing is RTS games. If you want a console has the best line up in 08 i think ps3 is the way to go. You might be best waiting till after ces and see how the gaming world landscape looks though.:confused:

There is no "better" system. It all comes down to what you want out of your system and what games you want to play.

If FPS are your love then without a doubt get a 360. They have by far the most and best FPS games and they always will.

If you want MGS and Final Fantasy type games then PS3 is your best option. Also if you're wanting an HD movie player then go with the PS3.


It really all comes down to what you want from your console. My vote would be for the 360, but that's only because their games fit me better.

well i kinda agree, but what Fpsers are you talking about? halo...and thats about it for exclusives..... and that was supposedly the last one, the next halo fps will be 2 years away, as they havent even started making it yet, as they are wrapped up in that silly rts. and the PS3 has resistance as an exclusive, i enjoy it still, not to alls liking, PLUS ps3 has gotten UT3 months and months and months before 360, if it eventually gets it, so, tbh, PS3 at the moment is better for fps's as it has all the best ones apart from halo, which, in all fairness, the only good part is the multiplayer.

However, 360 has the best BACKLOGG of games, so you could just buy the ton tht have come in the last 2 and a bit years, and play them. But i would only get my xbox back again for crackdown...but thats my opinion

do whatever you want mate, i believe that PS3 in the next 4 months will absolutely annihilate the 360, with FF13 and FFversus13, and MGS4, and Home, and Killzone 2, and even GTA4 (not an exclusive i know) due to all the ps2 owners who dont have either, siding with what they know! And many many more. Buuut its all down to you

EDIT: and as one of the guys said, xbox, if you want all the stuff like wirless and hd dvd, will cost and extra £100 or so, which makes it way more expensive than the PS3, which in england is only £299 now, so pretty cheap, only £30 more than the 360. And still, the Online for PS3 is all free, and everyone gets the demos at the same time, rather than a tiered system according to if you paying MS its blood money or not :P

I have them all. 360 wins.

I have them all. 360 wins.

I agree.

do whatever you want mate, i believe that PS3 in the next 4 months will absolutely annihilate the 360, with FF13 and FFversus13, and MGS4, and Home, and Killzone 2, and even GTA4 (not an exclusive i know) due to all the ps2 owners who don't have either, siding with what they know! And many many more. Buuut its all down to you

huh? Killzone 2, FF XIII, and FF versus 13 are definitely not coming out within four months. GTA 4 and MGS 4 should be out within 4 months but both of these games were suppose to be out in 07 so you never know. Home is the only thing that is guaranteed be out within 4 months.

well i kinda agree, but what Fpsers are you talking about? halo...and thats about it for exclusives.

what about bioshock? can't get that on a ps3...

Home is the only thing that is guaranteed be out within 4 months.

I wouldn't put money on it. :D

Home is the only thing that is guaranteed be out within 4 months.
what is "Home"
also what is affecting my decision is I have a ps2 but only like 10-15 games

what is "Home"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZY2vwlh5-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZY2vwlh5-g

that looks sick.

360

For me it is Live, the price point and library of games are the draw.

I have a ps3, but I would totally get a 360 instead. Really, neither has much of an advantage (at this point).

I'd go for 360. Youll even have money left over for a few games!

PS3.

Ive played a lot of good games on 360 this year, but they have all been outshined by PS3 games (dispite how few of them there currently are). PS3 is also *so* much better as a piece of kit. No one that owns the two can argue that the OS and build quality of the PS3 is *miles* ahead of the 360. Its also SO much quieter, almost whisper quiet.

The only real drawback PS3 is that the pads arent nearly as good as the 360s.... and obviously theres less games (but still plenty to keep you going).

I'd go for 360. Youll even have money left over for a few games!

this is actually untrue

what about bioshock? can't get that on a ps3...

yeh but i can play that on the pc full graphics too, so, dont count tht :P but if that supposed to be the amazing logg of amazing fpsers that make it way more amazing to have a 360, then that is very very flawed

this is really starting to get annoying because every body has really good points for each system so i am going to o back and create a score card and for every time someone puts up a good reason to buy the system the system will get a point

PS3.
The only real drawback PS3 is that the pads arent nearly as good as the 360s(but still plenty to keep you going).
pads? and as for the score they are tied at 4 each. i probably do bad things also though

haha, sorry! Well PS3 is the best, due to the amount of games coming out for it in the next year, more exclusives, as well as the multi-platforms, than you can shake a stick at! PLUS if you want everything for the xbox 360 that the ps3 gives automatically (and its really not that more expensive) you have to pay an extra £110 minimum, so ends up being alot more expensive, for wireless and hd dvd reader. AND ps3 does not incurr further costs to play online, whereas you have to spend £50 a year, which adds up it really does!

all the 360 has got going for it is better friends support and being able to join friends in a game easily, but the PS3 is getting that with Home in the next 4 months. As for a backlog of games, well thatll keep you amused for a couple of months, then you are back to PS3 exclusives envy... :P (i liked my 360, this is just to make him buy a PS3 as they are better! :P)

Oh and the 360 wireless you have to either buy batteries, or apend another £10 on a kit to stop that, the ps3 pads come with built in batteries that charge through the ps3!

point ps3! still need to work on the other list

lol my post for the ps3 has at least 4 points for the ps3 being better! :P

point ps3! still need to work on the other list

Heres a list of the pros and cons for each console.

360

Pros
Xbox Live
Video marketplace
Good diverse game library.
Price
Media Center
Xbox Live Arcade
Exclusive DLC for GTA 4 :D
Custom tracks

Cons
Hardware Issues
Expensive accessories.

PS3

Pros
Internet Browser
Linux
wifi
Free online
Can share downloadable content
Blu ray(only good if you wish to get into HD movies)

Cons
Lackluster game library
Crappy online service
Price $400 or $500 with no HD cables or mic
Many multiplatform games look/play worst on PS3 than 360
Not much content on the PSN store
2x drive so games have long loading times unless you install data to your HDD

There are more pros and cons for both systems but thats all I can think of right now. I own both and use my 360 alot more.

I really wouldnt say the online for the PS3 was crap, i dont like the fact its hard to join friends in a game, but warhawk, and motorstorm you can by going on to the game and selecting friends, join. But the video marketplace is good for Xbox live i must admit. We could argue all day about which is best blah blah, but in the end, they are the same console, and this year is going to the year of the ps3 in my opinion, i cant think of any xbox games that id be excited about, whereas there are TONS of games for the PS3. I know everyones like, xbox has better backlog, but thats only going to get you so far, its whats to come thats the real test.

and with the "games lok worse", i am still yet to see this, ive played CoD4 and Assassins on both consoles, and i am still yet to see any difference in the game play, so thats not really an issue. Also as a side note as you obviously know, they are ports, which is crappy and means they will look marginally worse, which i really dont think they do, but anywho, i think both consoles are the same, espeically with home around the corner, as well as the multitude of exclusive for the PS3.

Btw does anyone know what the exclusive dlc is going to be? remeber gh2 was supposed to have dlc every week, that never came...

ps3.
free online
the best download games, non of this mb limit.
phil harrison.
most varied line up of games.
the most future proof console.
will get the best updates.
cool psp compatability.
longest life span of the two consoles.
looks sweet in your front room.
BlueRay player.
install other os.
does not break.
i have one.
so does rothbart.
Has not yet hit is peak(360 so has).
will have the sweetest online when home comes out.
you can help cure cancer.
You know you frikkin want one.
Has less american teens giving you grief than on live.
will have the best addons, singstar buzz etc.
is very quite.
is a very good media hub, links very well to your wirless pc.
as standard has wireless, hd movies, free online.
has a web browser you can download dix's from.
mgs4,kz2,ff13,gt5,gta4,dmc4,lbp.
everyday shooter.
sony aint going to drop it in favour of the next playstation, like ms may do with the 360 and as they did do with the original xbox.

ps3.
Has less american teens giving you grief than on live.


thats it, thats actually the greatest reason to get a PS3, most people are either English, like me, or the older Hardcore gamer. When i used to play on my 360 on live, especially things like gears of war, i'd kill some idiot, and then the person would speak, and it would be some whiney, ****ing idiot, whos balls havent dropped going "oh my god you freaking noob you killed me whaa whaa gonna tell my mummy on you" queue the old pampers advert "look mummy wow! im a big boy now!" i didnt play gears online anymore after that, i couldn't stomach the whiney accent for more than 5 seconds

...you sound a lot like someone i know *coughrothbartcough*

you can help cure cancer.

WAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has less american teens giving you grief than on live.
I am a teen but i am not one of those whiney annoying ones and instead of saying "oh my god you freaking noob you killed me whaa whaa gonna tell my mummy on you" i will say something like "nice kill" and i probably wont get a mike anyway

theres a lot of immature 12 yer olds out ther that give all teens a bad name.


that's life...:rolleyes:

ya there are also some guys online who will play music. it is really hard to concentrate playing resistance fom at my neighbors house when some idiots are playing "solja boy" on their mikes

meh, im a PS3 lover, if you havent owned a console, i dont believe you should be able to comment, and as i have owned both, i believe im entitled!

aaanywho, well it can help cure cancer yes, using the folding at home software, you donate power from you ps3 to help aid it! and a couple of hours here and there is all you need, and it is doing the world of good it really is.

also, yeh, i dont bother talking during games, who has time for it, stop talking and do more killing, thats what you got the game for, not using your voicebox thats for sure! and anyway, the amount of swearing that i use if i die during games like warhawk is insane! so i would not want to subject any other people to that kind of language, so i ban meself from mics :P

and technically, im still a teen, but give it three months and i can finally break away from the shackles of teendom! Gogo gadget 20! wheee im so gonna get stoned and drunk and go on my ps3 and pwn noobs :P in other words, go on drunk and stoned and run towards a wall thinking im killing noobs....its all good

mics are good for a clan trying to play together and that about it. so whoever is abusing the mic privilage SHUT THE F*** UP


and that cool about the cancer thing and how it helps people. i think thats great

well i think i have a good idea what i am going to get but i am not sure. what are some good games for both systems? (and u 360fanboys don't u dare say halo or i will kill u)

yeh it was one of the top 100 gaming moments on this site too :D

its a good machine, and it hasnt had a good year, some really amazing games in a world of PS3 haters, it did not bode well. This year, trust me, its Console Wars: Return of The PS3, and thats the main reason really for getting a ps3, is that it has longevity, and it hasnt even touched its peak, its at least a year off of that.

Xbox 360:
Halo for multiplayer
Crackdown, amazing game
Gears of War
Eternal Sonata, coming to PS3 with more content soon
Mass effect, but i didnt like it that much, depends what you're in to
and Bioshock if you cant play it on the PC
Live games, well i only enjoyed geometry wars and bomber man

PS3:
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Folklore, so underated, its a very niche game, i loved it
Warhawk, only online, but thats what makes alot of games goo
Motorstorm, single player crap, online ****ing amazing
Ratchet and Clank, Some of the best visuals so far, amazing gameplay, clank rules
Resistance Ofcourse
Eye of Judgement, if you like card games, or even if you dont (i hate them, but this game literally rocks!) get it, its worth it, especially as you get the Playstation Eye with it.
If you go into PSN games, Super star dust HD, calling all cars, everyday shooter, eye create is free, thats fun, super rub a dub, and i downloaded crash team racing, a must have tbh!

wat was on the top 100 gaming moments?

wat was on the top 100 gaming moments?

Folding@home, for medical things such as cancer research
oh and look up i edited and put in some good games

oh and edit, add Unreal Tournament 3 to the PS3 list, ive been playing that ALOT the last few days :D

kool
and i saw i actually just finished reading
i mooch of my neighbors ps3 a lot and toy car actually looks pretty good. (only played demo) it is a great fun way to use the SIXAXAS

havent played toy home yet actually, when Pain actually comes out in england, ill buy those two together :D

wat is pain, and i believe toy home is an online game which you buy, but i am not positive

wat is pain, and i believe toy home is an online game which you buy, but i am not positive

Pain looks immense, you basically use a real big sling shot to shoot your character over a city, causing as many explosions and mayhem as possible, theres even human bowling, and toy home is coming out on the PSn soon isnt it? anywho, you buy them off the PSN, and they are like £3 or £4

sounds like flat out minus the annoying car part of it. :p

as PopTrogdor has been saying, the 2008 line up is one of the biggest reasons to get a PS3, especially since the game library is pretty much the only argument people have against the PS3 right now. Not to mention, they're about the same price as the 360s now, and you get more with it.

as far as blu-ray, HD movies is not the only use for them. How about the fact that they can hold 5x the amount of information that standard DVDs can (this affects games as well, friends) and 2/3 more than HD-DVDs (ok that's more for movies). and, right now blu-ray sounds so next-gen, but in a year it will be standard and you'll be considered old with your DVD collection. it'll kind of be like how i chuckle when i see my few VHS tapes i have... i don't even have a VCR anymore, at least not hooked up.

anyway, as stated before a few times, if you want to have a good system for a long time to come, get a PS3. the 360 is almost becoming as much of a novelty machine as the Wii was when it came out. (not comparing the two, just the use between the 360 and PS3 starting this year)

Pain looks immense, you basically use a real big sling shot to shoot your character over a city, causing as many explosions and mayhem as possible, theres even human bowling, and toy home is coming out on the PSn soon isnt it? anywho, you buy them off the PSN, and they are like £3 or £4

that sounds cool but how many £ to a $ because i know toy car is going to be around $10

that sounds cool but how many £ to a $ because i know toy car is going to be around $10

ah its 2 $ to a £, or around that, i bought UT3 from canada which at the moment, isnt too far off the us dollar, and it was $69.99, this equated to just over £35, if that helps

i would have got a ps3 when i was getting a next/current gen console, but it was the christmas after they had launched and a ps3 would have just been too much to ask my parents for. if only i had been an only child.... joking of course. my brothers great for beating at games whenever i need cheering up.;)

anyway i digress, if i was making that choice now, i would have picked the PS3, as that price thing is not an issue. So i'm a 360 owner. although i still go on my ps2 more then i go on that. *coughs*rugby 08 rules!*coughs*

Well someone has to play it..:D

ah its 2 $ to a £, or around that, i bought UT3 from canada which at the moment, isnt too far off the us dollar, and it was $69.99, this equated to just over £35, if that helps

that does help thanks.

it looks like ps3 is catching up in the pole

well in terms of longevity, PS3 will always win, xbox wont be able to keep up for that much longer, i think, in my opinion, it has peaked last year, and i dont believe the PS3 will truely peak for quite a while. HERES TO 2008! ROLL OUT THE BIG GUNS!

LE CHEIM!!!!lol. Yes here is to a great gaming year to all system users

oh and by the way i am probably going to get the ps3.

50 voters in the pole, 64 psts including this, and 6 pages i never thought it would come even close to this. ps3 just needs 5 more to take the lead in the pole

well you have to understand that almost everyone who has a 360 and doesn't have a PS3 is going to vote for 360, whether they're knowledgeable on both or not. i'm really surprised the PS3 has so many votes with so many 360 owners on this site.

EDIT:

Ignore my post. Misread the topic. Sorry :(

can do

i bought my 360 off of a guy i work with for $160.00. so that was pretty much the deciding factor for me. if it had been a ps3 (or even a wii ), then i still would have bought it. and i really like my 360. I suggest a little research on the games on each system, and see which one has more games that interest you.

well you have to understand that almost everyone who has a 360 and doesn't have a PS3 is going to vote for 360, whether they're knowledgeable on both or not. i'm really surprised the PS3 has so many votes with so many 360 owners on this site.

The tides... they are a-changin'... I remember way back when it was rare for a person to publicly say anything positive about the PS3 on a public forum... oh wait, that was only a year ago! :D

Btw, added you to my friends list tonight Ala Douche.

I think everyone would rather have a ps3 if you could afford it and it had a few more games. (when i say,"everyone would rather have a ps3 if you could afford it" I mean the 60 gig one with all the sd cards.)

I really think time will tell on this one -

Now that the big 360 exclusives are out and most of the future AAA titles being cross platform, I dont think it will be the games that are the deciding factor.

Ultimately I think its going to be down to:

The 360 has a larger user base but has its reputation for hardware "issues".

The PS3 has BluRay but has the higher price and lack of true exclusive system sellers.


I'll put money on there not being a clear winner until Q4 2009.

I think everyone would rather have a ps3 if you could afford it and it had a few more games. (when i say,"everyone would rather have a ps3 if you could afford it" I mean the 60 gig one with all the sd cards.)

Why do you think that is?

If the PS3 was cheaper and had more games, it would be a 360. Thats why the 360 is winning.

I really think time will tell on this one -

Now that the big 360 exclusives are out and most of the future AAA titles being cross platform, I dont think it will be the games that are the deciding factor.

Ultimately I think its going to be down to:

The 360 has a larger user base but has its reputation for hardware "issues".

The PS3 has BluRay but has the higher price and lack of true exclusive system sellers.


I'll put money on there not being a clear winner until Q4 2009.

ps3 in england is only £30 more than a 360..... so the price tag thing, bullshit and you forgot to mention the big ps3 exclusives, xbot are ye? and the 360 has been out longer, so that really isnt surprising that it has more games, if it didnt, itd be stupid, and remember for a long time the 360 had no games as well

ps3 in england is only £30 more than a 360..... so the price tag thing, bullshit and you forgot to mention the big ps3 exclusives, xbot are ye? and the 360 has been out longer, so that really isnt surprising that it has more games, if it didnt, itd be stupid, and remember for a long time the 360 had no games as well

Yeah, I've got a 360- and the reason is that although the PS3 is only £30 cheaper now, it wasn't when I had to make the descision of which console to get.

Whilst I've got a 360, I wouldn't say I'm an xbot - I honestly can't think of any games that I HAVE to get a PS3 for - sure there's some great ones, Resistance, Drakes, R&C - but they aren't gonna make be buy one right now.

I dont think there are any AAA titles announced for the next 6 months that are going to be platform exclusive - so I cant see them making a huge difference (GTA4 has extra content on 360 : MGS4 is coming out earlier on PS3).

I think for the time being, they're both fairly well balanced.

Yeah, I've got a 360- and the reason is that although the PS3 is only £30 cheaper now, it wasn't when I had to make the descision of which console to get.

Whilst I've got a 360, I wouldn't say I'm an xbot - I honestly can't think of any games that I HAVE to get a PS3 for - sure there's some great ones, Resistance, Drakes, R&C - but they aren't gonna make be buy one right now.

I dont think there are any AAA titles announced for the next 6 months that are going to be platform exclusive - so I cant see them making a huge difference (GTA4 has extra content on 360 : MGS4 is coming out earlier on PS3).

I think for the time being, they're both fairly well balanced.

omfg are you gone in the head? did you just write that, seriously, have you never read a gaming news article ever.... i know it may come out in 3 years time like the other mgs's did, but theres a difference between saying, itll come in 3 years and saying "blah blah blah coming out a week later" god read, so far all ive seen is "PS3 exclusive", theres being in a denile, then theres just being stupid

PopTrogdor is right... everyone just concede that MGS4 is PS3 exclusive. I mean if you can't trust Konami and Sony saying that... Ryan Payton, Konami's PR guy basically said "If you want to play MGS4, you'll need to buy a PS3". It's as plain as day.

Move on. Also, as for the exclusive GTA IV content... don't count your chickens before they hatch. That stuff's all '09 now and we don't "know" yet whether the game will be as great as some hope it will be. We are all optimistic, but still... it's a bit hard in the 2nd week of Jan '08 to be excited about exclusive content coming sometime next year... let's get excited about GTA IV "proper" first before we start jabbering about its DLC.

omfg are you gone in the head? did you just write that, seriously, have you never read a gaming news article ever.... i know it may come out in 3 years time like the other mgs's did, but theres a difference between saying, itll come in 3 years and saying "blah blah blah coming out a week later" god read, so far all ive seen is "PS3 exclusive", theres being in a denile, then theres just being stupid

Chill out - I meant it purely to show that whilst one system may have an edge over the other, that edge may only last a couple of months (and that was the quickest thing I could come up with at work.....).

that was the quickest thing I could come up with at work.....

Don't forget, you have the dart gun. If you need more time, tranq him!

i think i may go with the ps3 because i would like a system that has free internet because i probably cannot afford $50 a year for xbox live. furthermore it has not reached its peek. also i have played all of the older r&c games and tools of destruction looks bad ass

Don't forget, you have the dart gun. If you need more time, tranq him!

Sage advice...and the reason why I am still the student and you are the master.

i think i may go with the ps3 because i would like a system that has free internet because i probably cannot afford $50 a year for xbox live. furthermore it has not reached its peek. also i have played all of the older r&c games and tools of destruction looks bad ass


I'm so proud of you right now, you have chosen wisely

ps: posted this from my ps3 browser with usb keyboard.

I'm so proud of you right now, you have chosen wisely

ps: posted this from my ps3 browser with usb keyboard.

thats imba! and to photomaster, tools of destruction is the best ps3 game out easily, its beats all the multiplatforms too, it was one of the reasons i got my ps3 :P

I'd go with a 360 as well. It's more popular for hardcore gaming and has one of the best software lineup IMOO. Multiplatform games usually work better on a 360 since it was the primary system (more 360s out there, so most muliplatforms code for that). Plus it has more exclusives ATM.

I'd go with a 360 as well. It's more popular for hardcore gaming and has one of the best software lineup IMOO. Multiplatform games usually work better on a 360 since it was the primary system (more 360s out there, so most muliplatforms code for that). Plus it has more exclusives ATM.

exactly what we've been talking about, "At the moment" being the key phrase here...

First big game of the year Burnout paradise, lead platform ps3, looks better on ps3, o and have a look at these.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-99136.aspx
http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8193

Flint50 we aint in 07 no more, you need to stop living in the past, lol.

thats imba! and to photomaster, tools of destruction is the best ps3 game out easily, its beats all the multiplatforms too, it was one of the reasons i got my ps3 :P

i personally think that most games insomniac makes are amazing, that includes R&C, RFOM, and for younger gamers the Spyro games

they let go of spyro before it came to the ps2, which is why every single one on the ps2 was shite, and every single one before the ps2, was so amazing, i still play them, especially gateway to glimmer, so good :P

they let go of spyro before it came to the ps2, which is why every single one on the ps2 was shite, and every single one before the ps2, was so amazing, i still play them, especially gateway to glimmer, so good :P

ya i was referring to the ones before the ps2 those sucked. but i would prefer bad spyro games than not to have the R&C games

ratchet and clank beats the hell out of spyro, with a bloodied jesus stick stolen from mr ecko himself

definetly a 360. has some of the greatest shooters like halo, gears and some other great games like mass effect and possibly too human. (when it comes out)
notice how those are all 360 exclusives unless you count pc.

ratchet and clank beats the hell out of spyro, with a bloodied jesus stick stolen from mr ecko himself

spyro is a good kid game, but ratchet and clanks i s a much better game by far. also playing online for Resistance FOM has anyone noticed guys running around with clank on their backs? it is pretty cool

*roth loved Spyro (as an adult) when it was released*

Definitely 360. If you just saved up enough money, then you'll want the best for your money.

And a controller that shakes.

lol i just think its funny how people bring up gears and halo every time...they were good, but not that good, PS3 has UT3 and resistance, not to mention Uncharted which could be classed somewhat as a shooter, as its an integral part of the gameplay.

You need other games other than shooters to have a good console, and thats what the 360 is lacking GOOD non shooters, your rpg's certainly suck, except eternal sonata, but ps3's are getting it soon with new content and characters, so i dont mind :P

Mass effect in my opinion was alright, not the best game ever made, and has worse texture and graphics issues than gears and unreal tournament put together.

Also, dual shock 3 is out in Japan, if you are that needy to have something shake in your hand because you are a stupid simpleton, then you can just import the controllers from there, still same price, probably even cheaper. And if you saved up enough money for a 360, save another £30 and get a PS3, as they will last longer, both as a console, and as a piece of hardware. Also, pay live subscription and within a year you have spent more than on a ps3, which is freeeeeee online yaaaaaaaaay :D

I just think people are lacking, especially people who dont own both consoles, when people own both, you can tell as they love both of them!

I still play spyro even though im 20, well, im twenty in a couple of months, scary, and yeh playing as a purple dragon headbutting and flaming sheep is my idea of fun :P i havent actually got resistance, only played the multiplayer at my mates, and spent the time shooting people so i didnt notice they were carrying clank :P although if you owned both franchises, wouldnt you shove as much into each game with easter eggs and so on? I was playing Uncharted, and i found a treasure secret thing, and it was one of the precursor orbs from Jak and daxter, as naughty dog own both :P awesome

people just don't like to think about the future. the 360 is going to be left in the dust in juts a couple of months. their exclusives are decent... not great, but decent, and if you get a 360 that doesn't get the RROD within a year, consider playing the lottery.

i think there are a bunch of people who went out and bought a 360 during the period when it was cool to hate sony, and are now unwilling to admit that it's the lesser of the two.

what would ms have to do to make a ps3 owner recommend the 360 over the ps3?

what would ms have to do to make a ps3 owner recommend the 360 over the ps3?

take crackdown, put split screen offline co-op, ban every other game, so crackdown is the only game you are allowed to play on the 360, then make crackdown 2. That would make me buy another xbox, oh and if they took fable 2 and put it on the pc instead as i want to play it

what would ms have to do to make a ps3 owner recommend the 360 over the ps3?

Conversely, what would Sony have to do to make a 360 owner buy a PS3?

i think there are a bunch of people who went out and bought a 360 during the period when it was cool to hate Sony, and are now unwilling to admit that it's the lesser of the two.

People hate Sony because they have a right too. Sony goes back on its word ALL the time. First they say "rumble is last gen" then a year later they add it. Next they say the PS3 should be more than $600 to defend all the comments about the price then they add 2 price drops out of nowhere within a year of release =/ Then they shove blu ray down customers throats. My favorite is the whole "MS shoots for the moon, Sony shoots for the sun" quote. I'm not sure how having 256 ram for the cell is "shooting for the sun." And the fact that the PS3 CAN NOT do HD out of the box. For me personally, I hate Sony because they screwed early adopters over big time. $500 for a 80gb PS3 with Motorstorm and $150 worth of Blu ray movies? WHAT!? I spent $600 and got an inferior/obsolete PS3 with no games or anything :( At the very least Sony should send me a sixaxis controller that isn't buggy.


what would ms have to do to make a ps3 owner recommend the 360 over the ps3?

No PS3 only owner would recommend the 360 over the PS3 that would be admitting they bought the inferior console.

People hate Sony because they have a right too. Sony goes back on its word ALL the time. First they say "rumble is last gen" then a year later they add it. Next they say the PS3 should be more than $600 to defend all the comments about the price then they add 2 price drops out of nowhere within a year of release =/ Then they shove blu ray down customers throats. My favorite is the whole "MS shoots for the moon, Sony shoots for the sun" quote. I'm not sure how having 256 ram for the cell is "shooting for the sun." And the fact that the PS3 CAN NOT do HD out of the box. For me personally, I hate Sony because they screwed early adopters over big time. $500 for a 80gb PS3 with Motorstorm and $150 worth of Blu ray movies? WHAT!? I spent $600 and got an inferior/obsolete PS3 with no games or anything :( At the very least Sony should send me a sixaxis controller that isn't buggy.


First off, you should have been alive long enough to realize electronics are the main things that see price drops. That kind of stuff doesn't stay the same price forever. So don't be blaming anyone for the price drop. It was bound to happen.

It's also wonderful that you state random things and yet have no links to back them up. I am expected to believe your word?

And finally, the 5 free blu-ray movies had nothing to do with Sony. You can buy any blu-ray player and get the deal. The PS3 is a blu-ray player, so it can be included as part of the deal.

I hate Sony because they screwed early adopters over big time.

correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think anyone got screwed over as much as the xbox owners who had to send in there systems one, two, or even three times, because they have such faulty hardware.

and if you buy a new game console as soon as it is released, shouldn't you expect to pay more and get less? is this a new thing?

No PS3 only owner would recommend the 360 over the PS3 that would be admitting they bought the inferior console.

Please explain why it is inferior?

*cracks knuckles*

This'll be a piece of cake...

People hate Sony because they have a right too.

Sure. Anybody has the right to hate anything... but if they want my respect, they'll back those reasons up with actual reasons other than "because I do". I know people that hate Sony for reasons I respect, and I know a ton of people that hate them for reasons I think are horse crap.

Sony goes back on its word ALL the time.

As do other companies... like Microsoft. 1080p for gaming?! That's ridiculous, you don't need 1080p for gaming. HDMI?! Unnecessary... oh, here ya go. We charge for Xbox Live to ensure we have adequate resources to keep the service running well... bullcrap, it's a source of profit. The 120GB hard drive uses expensive technology, $179 is a very reasonable price for what you're getting. Bull-effin'-crap!

First they say "rumble is last gen" then a year later they add it.

Did you happen to catch (then 1UP's Luke Smith) interview Phil Harrison at GDC '07? If not, go look it up and then put... this... to... rest... it's CLEARLY explained.

Next they say the PS3 should be more than $600 to defend all the comments about the price then they add 2 price drops out of nowhere within a year of release

It's called reacting to customer demand. Customers demand lower prices, Sony does whatever it can to lower prices. If this means reducing components and functionality, they make the tough call and offer models that accommodate that.

Then they shove blu ray down customers throats.

Dude, shove?! I would wager Blu-ray ends up being a phenomenal success (both for Sony and the industry) BECAUSE of this move. If you (or others) got burned by HD-DVD, that's not Sony's fault. Also, keep in mind that unlike HD-DVD on the 360, gaming on the PS3 actually leverages Blu-ray's drastically larger disc capacity... it's not just for movies.

I'm not sure how having 256 ram for the cell is "shooting for the sun."

How in the hell do people gloss over the fact that the PS3's architecture is different? The Xbox has one big multi-purpose 512MB of RAM, the PS3 has two differently spec'd chunks of RAM totalling (OMG?!) 512MB of RAM. Once lazy PC-turned-360 developers realize that everything on the planet isn't necessarily programmed the same way, they'll realize that just maybe... if they don't use a PC/360 mind-set, maybe that limitation they're bitching about isn't so much a reality "in itself" but a reality only in their implementation. Because I see games like Burnout Paradise and COD4 look identical on both systems... you can't tell me the 360 version is only using half it's RAM or that the PS3 is doing it all with only 256MB of RAM.

Face it (it's alright), the Cell Processor is a computational BEAST when leveraged correctly. I look at it this way... we can drag race with me in a finely tuned Ferrari and you in a beat up on VW Bug. If I don't know how to shift gears, you can make the argument that the VW Bug can outrun me... I'll top out at what, 40-50mph in first gear whining like a jet engine?

It's all about using your resources in the best way. I see things like what Insomniac's doing with Resistance 2 and what other devs are saying, and I've got NO DOUBT that the PS3 will be able to match or best the 360 in the coming year...

And the fact that the PS3 CAN NOT do HD out of the box.

It's a cable. Get over it.

For me personally, I hate Sony because they screwed early adopters over big time. $500 for a 80gb PS3 with Motorstorm and $150 worth of Blu ray movies? WHAT!? I spent $600 and got an inferior/obsolete PS3 with no games or anything :( At the very least Sony should send me a sixaxis controller that isn't buggy.

Most of those "free movie" deals aren't Sony, but the Blu-ray Disc Association running promotions. Should I be pissed that people are now getting HDMI and Forza 2/Marvel Ultimate Alliance for less than I paid for my 360? Nope. Get over it. It happens.

No PS3 only owner would recommend the 360 over the PS3 that would be admitting they bought the inferior console.

I ask people what they value,what kind of games they want, what other equipment they own... I've recommended to many people that they buy a 360. I've also recommended to others that they get a PS3.

And the fact that the PS3 CAN NOT do HD out of the box.

The PS3 has offered that from the box since launch, but the 360 didn´t offer that until 2007, about 2 years from launch...

P.s.if you're going to call Ps3 a lame inferior or some crap, then you should think about the time a little boy's 360 gave him the RING OF DEATH!
oh and the time the collage guy got a RING OF DEATH!
riight.. and the time the girl from Boston got the RING OF DEATH! from her 360,
heh.. and remember the time that guy got a RING OF DEATH!
i allmost forgot the time that woman got a RING OF DEATH!
i could go on writing about the millions of people who got the RING OF DEATH!! but.. im to goddamn lazy so.. i'm not, what im trying to get to your little brain is that 360's get the RING OF DEATH! and thats why 360 is damned to a harsh lifemyself am too good of a person to be cruel to a 360. but i would if i wouldent be havng so much fun with a Ps3 :)

*Lots of words*

Wow, rothbart, I think you just defended the PS3 a little too much. Your points are solid, but you're sorta extending the truth there in favor of Sony. In reality, it's really somewhere in the middle.

The PS3 has offered that from the box since launch, but the 360 didn´t offer that until 2007, about 2 years from launch...

You're both wrong, the 360 and PS3 both offered HD out of the box.

Conversely, what would Sony have to do to make a 360 owner buy a PS3?

Give me enough good games in my genre interest (MGS4, Uncharted, Resistance, etc), a reasonable price and a good online system. None of those were quite present when I got a 360, although they were for the 360. Of course, come MGS4, Resistance 2, Home, and so on, I'd be willing to purchase a PS3 no problem had I not bought a 360. I'll stick with one console per generation, thanks.

I'm just gonna go ahead and say that this is a really pointless argument, because once the PS3 gets MGS4 and those other games that should've been out in '07, it'll really be fair game for both systems. They both have equal ups and downs and so it's really a question of whether you like Halo or MGS.

eh, rothbart was just making an example out of someone who decides since he has a voice he should use it at no end. :p

that was one hell of a can of wop ass rothbart opened back then....that was so sweet

Give me enough good games in my genre interest (MGS4, Uncharted, Resistance, etc), a reasonable price and a good online system. None of those were quite present when I got a 360, although they were for the 360. Of course, come MGS4, Resistance 2, Home, and so on, I'd be willing to purchase a PS3 no problem had I not bought a 360. I'll stick with one console per generation, thanks.

I'm just gonna go ahead and say that this is a really pointless argument, because once the PS3 gets MGS4 and those other games that should've been out in '07, it'll really be fair game for both systems. They both have equal ups and downs and so it's really a question of whether you like Halo or MGS.

1. people havent really understood that the price drop has mad eth ps3 basically the same price and 2. arent you like 14/15, sooo do you actually buy your consoles? or does your mum do it for you?

oh and that rant was kickass rothbart

2. arent you like 14/15, sooo do you actually buy your consoles? or does your mum do it for you?

oh and that rant was kickass rothbart

if you are referring to me, no i got enough money to but it and my parents aren't paying $1

if you are referring to me, no i got enough money to but it and my parents aren't paying $1

nah i was referring to the guy who said the reason he hasnt got a ps3 as he cant afford it. And how the hell did you get that much money? i never had even near that much at that age :S

How old is he?

nah i was referring to the guy who said the reason he hasnt got a ps3 as he cant afford it. And how the hell did you get that much money? i never had even near that much at that age :S

I almost never buy anything or any new games for my ps2 but i probably will use up all of my money on the ps3, games, and possibly a few bluray dvds although probably not many

I like the 360 because I like Microsoft, I like Halo 3, and I like Live.

Rothbart, please tell me why I am wrong.

I like the 360 because I like Microsoft, I like Halo 3, and I like Live.

Rothbart, please tell me why I am wrong.

rothbart has already told sooooooo many people why they are wrong dont be wasting his time by demanding him to do so again

I like the 360 because I like Microsoft, I like Halo 3, and I like Live.

Rothbart, please tell me why I am wrong.

You're not wrong. If you're clearly informed and still feel that way, all the power to ya.

I'm a disgruntled 360 owner... no doubt about it. In hindsight, the majority of the gameplay I use my 360 for could be adequately handled on the PS3 if Harminix and Activision had their act(s) together.

For the time being, my 360 is my Guitar Hero/Rock Band machine.

Most of the people I have issue with are way to easy to gloss over glaring problems on the 360 platform but quite easily blow things waaaaay out of proportion on the PS3 (usually stuff they've heard 2nd hand that they have zero experience with themselves).

nah i was referring to the guy who said the reason he hasnt got a ps3 as he cant afford it. And how the hell did you get that much money? i never had even near that much at that age :S

Well I actually just said that I stick with one console per generation, but yeah I pay for a lot of the console myself, and my parents usually pitch in for it.

I have my sources of income.

I like the 360 because I like Microsoft, I like Halo 3, and I like Live.

Rothbart, please tell me why I am wrong.

Because anyone who likes a corporation is wrong...

I don't like Sony, just my PS3...

I don't like Sony, just my PS3...

You're my honorary Spokesperson for the Day™! That's exactly how I feel.

Well I actually just said that I stick with one console per generation, but yeah I pay for a lot of the console myself, and my parents usually pitch in for it.

I have my sources of income.

does it involve street corners?

I like the 360 because I like Microsoft's products and designs, I like Halo 3, and I like Live.

Fixed. I hate the corrupted, greed-ridden, money-driven corporations.

every corporation is corrupted, greed-ridden, and money-driven. sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all just as bad as each other, so liking a system because of the corporation that funds it's existence is just stupid (not saying that's why you like it, but there are a lot of people that just like everything microsoft or everything sony etc.)

every corporation is corrupted, greed-ridden, and money-driven. sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all just as bad as each other, so liking a system because of the corporation that funds it's existence is just stupid (not saying that's why you like it, but there are a lot of people that just like everything microsoft or everything sony etc.)

Thats a given, but I think alot of people may "like" a corporation because of their previous products and associated reputation -

For example; Sony still put out a sh*tload of quality consumer electronics and are respected for that and a less informed or more casual gamer may choose the PS3 based on Sony's reputation.

Thats a given, but I think alot of people may "like" a corporation because of their previous products and associated reputation -
Definitely. I've got a friend who's always been a great PS2 fan, and when PS3 came out, he bought it without comparing it to the other console(s). Me and my friends did a little research on the topic, and found out that PS3 is (was at the time of the research) a rip-off. Now he's regretting his choice, as most of his/my friends' consoles are 360s and he doesn't really have anybody to play with.

Having a 360 and a PS3 would be the best way out of this dilemma. However, that would need HUGE amounts of money, and I don't have that much to spend on gaming. My choice was the 360, and one of the most important arguments that made me buy it was the number of people playing 360s here (and generally on XBL). Seriously, SG is one of the greatest communities I've ever participated in, and if I bought a PS3 I could only play Rock Band with Ala Douche (no offence, Ala ;) ).

I was comparing the consoles and carefully watching any changes in them for a few months before I bought Xbox 360. If you're interested, you can read my 360 vs. PS3 comparison (http://regua.biz/2007/06/26/xbox-360-vs-playstation-3/) I've written in June/July 2007 (yeah, it contains a few mistakes and inaccuracies, but IMO it described well the situation between the two consoles as of the summer of 2007).

what happened to the days of offline gameplay? talked to some people and they were like "what happens in the CoD4 campaign".... they have had it for yonks and never played the campaign.... and what happened to people not basing their whole decision on which console to buy, because you can have a big e-peen online

i like online play as much as the next guy, but every argument says "yeh well xbl is the shizznit" no it isnt, buy it for the console, not for a service you could get for free but have to pay for, please. Oh and on my xbxo, live was shite and downloads that were 700 meg took twice as long than a ps3 file which is 1.5 gig, so i dont know where the "its a better service" comes from. all i liked with xbox live was being able to chat to people, still took ages if you didnt have a keypad thingy though.

I dont want to sound like I'm sticking up for MS too much, but I downloaded a 1.1 Gb file from them in 11 mins with a 8Mgps broadband line.

[QUOTE=PopTrogdor;50115]what happened to the days of offline gameplay? talked to some people and they were like "what happens in the CoD4 campaign".... they have had it for yonks and never played the campaign.... and what happened to people not basing their whole decision on which console to buy, because you can have a big e-peen onlineQUOTE]

Gotta agree with you on that one - fair enough, COD4 multiplayer is great, but almost all of my favorite games, and the upcoming titles I'm interested in, are all single player - Oblivion, Bioshock, Fallout 3, DMC4, GTA4 etc.

got 2 meg, but still live took twice as long for a file half the size, and was using the same internet connection, soooo :P

Then again one of the points of Live is that although they can seriously push content (a 5 Gig HD movie in an hour isn't bad!), they just dont have the power behind them when their servers are swamped.

Maybe thats a testament to Live - you got it quicker from PSN cos there aren't as many users of PSN....

That has nothing to do with it...

Anyways, I'm an online gamer, mainly a PC online gamer, but for online console gaming I prefer PSN to XBL for one and only one reason...

Server lists, my freaking god to I love servers list...

And I HATE match making, with a passion!

I'd rather not play with people who suck just as much as me than you very much...

You only become the best by playing the best...

That's why I love servers... Find a hardcore server filled with expert players, and boom! you're getting better and better...

ya but if you only play with the best you will either get better like you said or get pwnd all the time and will be no fun. personally i prefer playing in games with people better than me and other times people who are worse than me.

Then again one of the points of Live is that although they can seriously push content (a 5 Gig HD movie in an hour isn't bad!), they just dont have the power behind them when their servers are swamped.

Maybe thats a testament to Live - you got it quicker from PSN cos there aren't as many users of PSN....

haha, i gotta say being able to download movies from live is awesome. And yes, it could be due to the amount of more people using Live, but you are paying for it :P so it should be the best thing in the whole world where movies are beamed directly into your head :D

I'm one of those guys that can't ever imagine downloading movies from Live. I'm not quite sure what the problem is but it lies somewhere between overpriced movies that have a finite viewing window, super low capacity hard drive that costs way too much money to upgrade, and the whole "decide now, watch later" aspect of it all. I live 5 minutes from a video store... and have On Demand through Comcast if I really want to pay out the ying-yang for (virtually immediate) access to movies I don't need to return to the store...

Maybe, just maybe if XBLVM had a subscription plan... and they fessed up and lowered the price of the 120GB drive drastically (or better yet started selling a driveless-chassis that you add your own retail drive to)... maybe I'd consider it then.

But short of that, I'm surprised when I hear people say how often they download stuff from there...

ya but if you only play with the best you will either get better like you said or get pwnd all the time and will be no fun. personally i prefer playing in games with people better than me and other times people who are worse than me.


It's always fun, and I never get totally owned...

People are already suckered into paying for live, so I guess they just leave their wallet open for microsoft to feed out of.

One thing that really irks me about XBLM is that they charge for backgrounds and avatars. All I can say is WTF?

Well I guess home is going to do the same by charging for furniture and clothes... but still... at least home will be free... XBL is charging for it service plus "premium" avatars and backgrounds.

I'm one of those guys that can't ever imagine downloading movies from Live. I'm not quite sure what the problem is but it lies somewhere between overpriced movies that have a finite viewing window, super low capacity hard drive that costs way too much money to upgrade, and the whole "decide now, watch later" aspect of it all. I live 5 minutes from a video store... and have On Demand through Comcast if I really want to pay out the ying-yang for (virtually immediate) access to movies I don't need to return to the store...

Maybe, just maybe if XBLVM had a subscription plan... and they fessed up and lowered the price of the 120GB drive drastically (or better yet started selling a driveless-chassis that you add your own retail drive to)... maybe I'd consider it then.

But short of that, I'm surprised when I hear people say how often they download stuff from there...

I've only downloaded a few things - but here in the UK the video download really isn't that bad - Ok so you have to plan in advance what you want to watch, but by the time I leave the house, get to Blockbusters and back, the thing would nearly be downloaded anyway.

The price really isn't that big an issue either - Blockbusters is easily the most common rental store here, and to get a new DVD for 1 night it costs the best part of £4.00 (thats about $7.00), that is the equivolent to nearly 500 MS points. Plus I dont have a HD media player yet, so I dont rent HD disks, so for me its a fairly good option if I want to watch HD movies.

People are already suckered into paying for live, so I guess they just leave their wallet open for microsoft to feed out of.

One thing that really irks me about XBLM is that they charge for backgrounds and avatars. All I can say is WTF?

Well I guess home is going to do the same by charging for furniture and clothes... but still... at least home will be free... XBL is charging for it service plus "premium" avatars and backgrounds.

Best quote - Vote with your wallet.

You're right on Home charging for extra's as well, its amazing how much facilities like XBLA and Facebook make on microtransactions. Jeez - Secondlife is built on it. If anything, I can see this happening more and more in games.

Prediction for new year - GTA4 will royally p*ss everyone with their micotransactions; new clothes, cars, weapons, side missions, eastern european mail order brides.......

The price really isn't that big an issue either - Blockbusters is easily the most common rental store here, and to get a new DVD for 1 night it costs the best part of £4.00 (thats about $7.00), that is the equivolent to nearly 500 MS points. Plus I dont have a HD media player yet, so I dont rent HD disks, so for me its a fairly good option if I want to watch HD movies.

here, it's like $4 for a movie and you don't have to pay any late fees unless you return it like a month after you rent it... then you have to pay like $1.50. as much as i hate blockbuster, their rental policy here in the US is nice.

I forget how expensive it is over here compared to the US - could be one of the reasons 360/PS3 debates are always so much fun. For a UK gamer to be completely impartial and own both sytems, they would have to put up over $1400 - and don't even start on the games....

360 in UK = £299 ($585)
PS3 in UK = £425 ($830)

PS3 is also £299, I live here, I know...

for me its not really about downloadable movies because i live less than 5 min away from a block buster and i have comcast so i can just easily download a movie from there

I forget how expensive it is over here compared to the US - could be one of the reasons 360/PS3 debates are always so much fun. For a UK gamer to be completely impartial and own both sytems, they would have to put up over $1400 - and don't even start on the games....

360 in UK = £299 ($585)
PS3 in UK = £425 ($830)

haha yeh there is literally nowhere in england that sells the ps3 for that much. Even hmv, the most is 325 with like 2 or 3 games and a blu-ray. xbox is the same amount with 2 games, no movie, no hd dvd reader, no wireless connection, the £425 you speak of is the 360 after buying everything the ps3 has

I had the same question that I asked here http://www.sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3053
and after reading this whole thread I am leaning more and more towards PS#. I understand this is a PS3 section but any comments specifically related to what I bring up.

Also something I just thought of which at first thought may not be a huge deal but the different lay out of the controllers and learning the new controller if you are used to the PS layout, like I am.

ya that is very true, i feel very uncomfortable with a xbox controller with the d pad were the joystick thingy is sopped to be and vice versa

if i had the money, id own every console, even the wii :O i know, blasphemy. But heres the list of games i have played, or used to have on my old 360 before i got rid of it, that i would still have in my games library:

Overlord
Crackdown
errr, hmmm, let me think, nope, nada

and that about it for the list i guess

and i agree with you about the ps controllers, however, the left and right triggers take alot of getting used to on the SIXAXIS as they have changed slightly, id much prefer the old controller when i first picked one up, but now im fine with them :P

Crackdown

Got my vote for 360 GOTY last year. I got more enjoyment out of Crackdown than any other single title... but it was hard remembering Crackdown being out in '07. It was, but it seemed so long ago.

yeh i know what you mean, i actually spent time on it, i think i played 25 hours a week on crackdown alone, just because i could do what the hell i liked and wanted every agility orb, i think i was missing 3 overall lol. and i agree, in terms of fun factor, i still cannot think of a game that could do the same crackdown did for me this year

ive purchased both and have to say, with all the problems with 360, i still love it twice as much as my ps3. The reason= GAMES

what games? what games do you own for the consoles? then we can judge that remark :P

EDIT: owned both consoles too, and for me, ps3 = better technically i had my 360 longer, and yet i have twice as many ps3 games now as i had 360 games back then, and very few reach the level of fun ive had with the ps3

at the moment, im enjoying pwning noobs on UT3 yummy

Personal preference people... personal preference.

fair does, but i bet the games most people would list, would be either comparable to ps3 games or halo

Got my vote for 360 GOTY last year. I got more enjoyment out of Crackdown than any other single title... but it was hard remembering Crackdown being out in '07. It was, but it seemed so long ago.

Crackdown was a very underrated game. It was really addicting and whle it's not my favorite 360 game, I sure did enjoy it.

The whole controller thing is all about what you are used to - I had my PS2 before I got the Xbox, and initially hated the Xbox controller, but then tried to go back the the dualshock and it just feels too small for my hands now....

at the moment, im enjoying pwning noobs on UT3 yummy

wat is this UT3 everyone is talking about?!?! it sounds awesome!!!

Unreal Tournament 3, the daddy of all fps's.................after all the id stuff of course.

ok i probably should get that

as someone from england, UT3 doesnt technically come out here till March, but guess what? GO GO GADGET REGION FREE! so i imported it from canada, and it works, go me, and its amazing, and if you want, put in a keyboard and mouse! Its all gravy

as someone from england, UT3 doesnt technically come out here till March, but guess what? GO GO GADGET REGION FREE! so i imported it from canada, and it works, go me, and its amazing, and if you want, put in a keyboard and mouse! Its all gravy

I've already installed a couple mods, it's pretty sweet really.

well i just use lime wire... same shit, and i can just transfer em' from my i pod to my ps3... [FREE!], ohh and soo wussup with that ps3 gamer night??

i have finally saved up enough for a new generation game system. but i dont know if i should get a 360 or ps3. can anyone help me decide?

in my opinion, there both the same, theres just alot more games 4 360, but u can do funner stuff on ps3 [ like costimize ur acc, + free online], theres just a lot of 360 fanboys, [and the ps3 came later than 360...]- and u can watch youtube vids to lol...

there is a resistance fall of man of man one this sat, look on the main gamercastnetwork forums. see you there.

heres what im confused about, on ALL games i can only play in european servers, but in UT3 atm im playing in american servers, and mostly servers run by people here in europe, because the american servers all have pings of 250+ as im preeeetty far away :P which isnt nice for me. So is there anyway i can play against the americans?

as someone from england, UT3 doesnt technically come out here till March, but guess what? GO GO GADGET REGION FREE! so i imported it from canada, and it works, go me, and its amazing, and if you want, put in a keyboard and mouse! Its all gravy

Yeah, same I love it, I import all ym PS3 games...

heres what im confused about, on ALL games i can only play in european servers, but in UT3 atm im playing in american servers, and mostly servers run by people here in europe, because the american servers all have pings of 250+ as im preeeetty far away :P which isnt nice for me. So is there anyway i can play against the americans?

try setting it to world wide not just European.

there is a resistance fall of man of man one this sat, look on the main gamercastnetwork forums. see you there.

i dont see it can u send me the link i want to see if i can play at my friends house.

i dont see it can u send me the link i want to see if i can play at my friends house.

Here you go (http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8247). You'll need a GCN account (with the correctly set up timezone) to be able to RSVP and see when the event is taking place. The scheduling setup he has is custom and quite nice.

so rothbart, i just read your sig... but only the bold... in order.....

"I vomited while playing Halo 3 watching your daughter do porn."

are you making a statement with your boldisms? :p

so rothbart, i just read your sig... but only the bold... in order.....

"I vomited while playing Halo 3 watching your daughter do porn."

are you making a statement with your boldisms? :p

You never know...

it looks like the 360 is dominating the poll...although the ps3 does have some promising titles coming out.

it looks like the 360 is dominating the poll...although the ps3 does have some promising titles coming out.

I'll say! (http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2008/01/egm-decision-08-playstation-3-makes-its-case.html) ;)

Yeah, same I love it, I import all ym PS3 games...

are you being sarcastic? as thats all you seem to be doing, ever. I imported it because its not coming out here for another 3 months on the ps3 here, and i ****ing wanted to play it. Is that alright with you?

oh and looked at the list for the ps3 games coming you wrote up roth, its looking mint as! although, as you said, not looking good for my financial situation, as alot of those are must buys :S

I would import more ps3 games if they didn't have that rule against importing to Europe from Asia :mad:

haha http://www.videogamesplus.ca/default.php?cPath=486 is importing Dual shock 3 from asia, then on to you :P and any games ofcourse :P and its canada so its awesome, got my game in like 5 days, so its pretty quick, which reminds me, when i next get lots of moneys, that might be my next treat, a nice dualshock 3, edit: £39.98 :O hmm lol

haha http://www.videogamesplus.ca/default.php?cPath=486 is importing Dual shock 3 from asia, then on to you :P and any games ofcourse :P and its canada so its awesome, got my game in like 5 days, so its pretty quick, which reminds me, when i next get lots of moneys, that might be my next treat, a nice dualshock 3, edit: £39.98 :O hmm lol

http://www.videogamesplus.ca/product_info.php?cPath=486_488&products_id=13240

you can import an 80gb ps3 with motorstorm cheaper than buying a 40gb ps3 in Ireland with no game :D

OMFG and only £50 more than i got my 60g with 2 games :S not too bad actually! But im definitely ordering a dualshock 3. Btw, i know games are region free, are controllers?

Yeah controllers are too

PIMP, getting me one of those, might get ceramic white. Also, seen the new pixel junk tower defense for psn?
****ing awesome

AND WHEN THE **** IS EUROPE GETTING PAIN ARGH **** SHITE

i noticed how there are a lot of wats better threads debating between ps3 and 360 located in the ps3 section of the forms. However there are few in the 360 section, because all of the 360 owners in that section know that there is no debate. 360 is better, i have both and enjoy my ps3, but it doesn't touch my ps3

i have both and enjoy my ps3, but it doesn't touch my ps3

:D

http://blog.pbwiki.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/fail.jpg

Toataly random, but i this is my thread sooooooo... what other podcasts do you listen to from GCN???

are you being sarcastic? as thats all you seem to be doing, ever. I imported it because its not coming out here for another 3 months on the ps3 here, and i ****ing wanted to play it. Is that alright with you?

Calm down babe, I was being serious, I don't haven't bought a single British PS3 game... I import all mine... Unless a friend or lover buys it for me...

I use: www.movietyme.com

Free shipping too...

I have the white dualshock3, its really nice. Makes the normal ones feel like cheap third party pads. it does not creak ever when you twist it.

I've tried all the shows but only listen to vgs, sg, ug every week. Also i like the 1up, egm, gamingsteve, crankygamers and gamergarage podcasts.

My Ceramic White DS3 is in teh mail...

I only bought it for DMC4...

Toataly random, but i this is my thread sooooooo... what other podcasts do you listen to from GCN???

Complete topic changes would best be served by a new thread... I'm just sayin'...

i noticed how there are a lot of wats better threads debating between ps3 and 360 located in the ps3 section of the forms. However there are few in the 360 section, because all of the 360 owners in that section know that there is no debate. 360 is better, i have both and enjoy my ps3, but it doesn't touch my ps3

well if you would have read the initial posts made by the thread starter, you would have realized that he is debating on which one to get. this isn't a "my PS3 is better than your 360" thread. Had you read up the point where you blindly decided you have a voice, you would have realized there are 16 pages of people giving pros and cons to BOTH systems. so please, next time you want to share how 1337 your xbox is, don't.

i have both and enjoy my ps3, but it doesn't touch my ps3

Are you implying your 360 touches itself?! That might explain why they overheat so often and mysteriously break... :D

Are you implying your 360 touches itself?! That might explain why they overheat so often and mysteriously break... :D

Sigh... ps3 fanboys are all the same...

Sigh... ps3 fanboys are all the same...

Unfortunately you dont have to be a PS3 fanboy for that to happen.....

does the dualshock 3 have the sixaxis tilting ability?

does the dualshock 3 have the sixaxis tilting ability?

yes

cool

If you have the money, get both.
If you want all of last year's good games, get the 360.
If you want some of the most promising titles of 2008, get the ps3.

well mr bacon, that pretty much sums it up as well as anyone could put it.

If you have the money, get both.
If you want all of last year's good games, get the 360.
If you want some of the most promising titles of 2008, get the ps3.

not all of last years were just 360, make it sound like ratchet, warhawk, uncharted, UT3 and Eye of judgment among others were never released...

if anyone gets a 360, if you do not own crackdown and overlord, or have at least completed them, i shall hunt you down

well mr bacon, that pretty much sums it up as well as anyone could put it.

Indeed.

not all of last years were just 360, make it sound like ratchet, warhawk, uncharted, UT3 and Eye of judgment among others were never released...

Well, in his defense, I'd personally call R&CF, Uncharted, Warhawk and UT3 great games, not "good". :D

I haven't put enough time into EOJ to call it "great" yet.

i like it :P anywho, whats up with your avatar rothbart? seems to buggering up slightly, or maybe its just the forums :S

i like it :P anywho, whats up with your avatar rothbart? seems to buggering up slightly, or maybe its just the forums :S

Seems fine to me... refresh the page (or clear your cache).

Seems fine to me... refresh the page (or clear your cache).
all gets cleared when i close firefox automatically, and its still looking wierd, oh well, maybe just me :P

Have you noticed how the PS3 is always described as havign the POTENTIAL to be the best system and it has POSSIBLY the best games.....

does it matter? im loving my ps3 more than my xbox, i enjoy it, so everyone can go enjoy their consoles and be done with it

it is really funny how this has turned in to a "if any one says something bad about the ps3 they get totally bashed" forum

it is really funny how this has turned in to a "if any one says something bad about the ps3 they get totally bashed" forum
that happens to every thread poptrogdor posts in. :D

bleh, oh well, shit happens

i just got home from my neighbors house after a few rounds of rfom and while playing i got a message from a metta666. i am not sure if thats what is was exactly but i think it was something like that. (i think the #s are wrong) if any of you know who this is please tell. Also do not hesitate to make me your friend. currently: 1 friend. my tag is Da_Pope_ and i am looking for a clan also.

there should totally be an sg clan in like every game, TOTAL RANDOMNESS, got to love it

huh? so, you got a ps3? or er...? dont understand :P

no i did not like i siad i was playing at my neighbors house and i have my own account since i go over there A LOT. and when i do get the ps3 i will transfer all my info, not sure how yet, but i will find a way!

hmm dont know if you can, but hey

no i did not like i siad i was playing at my neighbors house and i have my own account since i go over there A LOT. and when i do get the ps3 i will transfer all my info, not sure how yet, but i will find a way!

You simply create a master account on your (new) PS3 with the correct login info and you're set. If you have any saved games you want to retain, simply copy them onto some form of memory stick or thumb drive (depending on the models of PS3s you guys have, a USB thumb drive will work on any PS3). Also, if you've purchased any downloadable content under your account, you can simply download it again on your PS3 at no additional charge.

Also, don't forget about "game sharing" downloadable games. With GameSharing, you can buy a downloadable game and "share" it with up to 4 other friends, splitting the cost (the major restriction is only one of you can play online multiplayer at once -- Warhawk doesn't support game sharing either). I have 3-4 games on my PS3 that a friend of mine bought and he has 3-4 games on his that I've bought.

thanks, game sharing is a good i idea. me and my friend were just talking about trading games eventual.

i totally forgot about game sharing. Nice. Good news for my cheap skate cousin tomorrow when he gets free games. So i create a master on his use my details, download list and thats it. How does it lock the online, i'm guessing you can both play online just not at the same time?
Edit: just re-read post, both can go online

i totally forgot about game sharing. Nice. Good news for my cheap skate cousin tomorrow when he gets free games. So i create a master on his use my details, download list and thats it. How does it lock the online, i'm guessing you can both play online just not at the same time?
Edit: just re-read post, both can go online

No, there can be only one master... I was only telling him because it was his PS3 he planned to buy.

To gameshare it doesn't need to be the master account, you just need to sign into PSN with an account that has already bought something, go to the PS Store, go to your Download List (things you've already downloaded), redownload the purchased games, install them, and now anybody on the machine can play them. You will need to keep your account on his PS3, but you don't necessarily have to have your PSN password "saved" on his console.

Some people prefer to temporarily change their password when setting up a gameshare situation with someone so they can change it back after they've exchanged games. The reason being if there is any money in your PS Wallet and you have opted to save your password on their PS3 as well, they could potentially spend your money for you when logged in as you. With close friends and family this shouldn't be an issue, but some people go so far as to exchange login info over the net with strangers to gameshare stuff. I don't do that personally, but there are ways to make it (relatively) safe.

thank you rothbart you have saved me so much frustration. and by thumb drive do u mean a jump drive or something else?

thank you rothbart you have saved me so much frustration. and by thumb drive do u mean a jump drive or something else?

Any USB flashdrive, yeah. Some PS3s have multiple formats of memory card reader too. In that case you could also use Compact Flash, Memory Stick Pro (Duo with an adapter) or whatever the third kind of memory it accepts that I'll never use™. ;)

Some PS3s have multiple formats of memory card reader too.

Show off.

??? he was answering a direct question...

ya and he helped me a lot.

thanks rothbart

wow, no one has posted here in a while

ps3.
Has less american teens giving you grief than on live.



Have you ever heard a whiny English kid? At least they make sense. Except for the ones who obviously haven't even started puberty who stilll think cursing makes them cool.

does it matter they still annoy the hell out of me

Just get the one that fits your bucket (huh?:confused:) or just wait for more games to come out for ps3.

good advice i will get the one that fits my bucket

Fits your what?! :S
Anywho, to tehMeggaman, kinda in response to you post on your new thread no, no red rings of death, thats purely a 360 problem, due to the graphics processor being really really close to the cd reader, and has no heat sync basically, so it melts, ps3 is a behemoth, it has so much room, its fine, could have my ps3 on in the background while sitting in total silence, and i still have trouble hearing any noise.

Also, about whiny english kids, never heard one, im english, and i have never in my life heard a whiny english kid, and even if you have, whiny american kids make me want to shoot myself, but in a place that wouldnt kill me, so i die slowly and in anguish, but it would still hurt less than hearing "omgz noobz you gotz h34d shotz on me, im telling my soccer mum and shes gonna beat down on you, then im going to go to bed a 2 i the afternoon as its my bedtime and i want my mum to read to me" wow, that was a bit off there :S Oh and as the PS3 used to be expensive, you kinda had to save the money up yourself to buy one, so you are either an adult, or a really mature kid if you have a PS3, well not now that is, cheap now

So yeh, PS3 is the shizznit

oh and im slightly drunk and trying to keep the kebab down, so probs best just to ignore this post maybe

actually, this post made more sense than usual :p

Have you ever heard a whiny English kid? At least they make sense. Except for the ones who obviously haven't even started puberty who stilll think cursing makes them cool.

I prefer the British whiny kids, they have a more interesting accent.

Except for that one kind on this one TF2 server.

'ONLY 3 SNIPERS AT A TIME!'

I ****ING GET IT, SHUT THE HELL UP!

on what games are the whiny kids on so i can avoid them

well if you want a blu ray player that can also play uncharted get the ps3 if you want a gaming system get the 360 of and anyone who thinks 2008 isnt a big year for 360 is on crack (not he drug but the butt) exclusive GTA 4 content lost odesy alan wake too human oh and HALO WARS, now given 2009 is till up for grabs but by that time youll be looking forward to the xbox 720 in 2010 and the ps4 in late 2011

*yawn*

HAHAHA can i handle that one?

GTA4 downloadable content will be, if you're lucky, in 2009, and by that point, bet your bottom dollar that Sony will have grabbed some of that as well. Halo Wars looks so yawn talking about it makes me sleepy. I have watched the opening 10 minutes of Lost Odyssey, and i gotta tell you, it looks pretty disappointing, the only good bit is the original cutscene, and even so, you still wont know what the **** is going on. Alan wake, whoopdi-doo would you like a cookie? And you fail to mention the list of good ps3 games, and the list of games coming for the ps3 which 1.outnumbers the 360, and 2. are better, probably because you dont have a ps3, and if you do, then you are surely misguided by MS who give your e-peen a good jerk once in a while with an extra 10 gamer points, congratz, heres a medal, it has enscribed on it "I'm with stupid" and an arrow pointing towards your face

oh and edit, i doubt the ps3 will be outdated for a long time, it has enough hardware to run a tank, or something, maybe not that much, but close!

well if you want a blu ray player that can also play uncharted get the ps3 if you want a gaming system get the 360 of and anyone who thinks 2008 isnt a big year for 360 is on crack (not he drug but the butt) exclusive GTA 4 content lost odesy alan wake too human oh and HALO WARS, now given 2009 is till up for grabs but by that time youll be looking forward to the xbox 720 in 2010 and the ps4 in late 2011

Look, it's real simple... 360 has a METRIC TON of games worth playing...

...but....

Most of them WILL RROD, and customer service appearantly blows majorly. AND if you have a good PC, dont bother as almost every good game on it is PC also.

The PS3:

Has a good lineup comming in, can play hidef movies out of the box, and is reliable as hell...

...but...

the current lineup isnt has powerful, it has removed features it started with, and is still fairly pricey.

The Wii (since we are on these):

Has a good 1st party lineup, is really reliable, has a whole new control scheme, and is pretty cheap...

...but...

3rd party so far has sucked, it has no real graphic power, and it has a whole new control scheme.

The PC:

Has a metric-ton of titles to choose from (above and beyond 360 due to the age the library can be) and is highly customizable (meaning you pretty much have what you want in it)

...but...

It's also pretty pricey, and if you dont bother to understand the technical ends to any extent, Windows can bite ya.

In the long run, they will all fair pretty damn well, but to different audiences and places, and it's up to you to pick which tradeoffs you want. Accept that and stop being an xbot who cant accept anything else is out there but the 360.

tell you what though diortem, the pc lineup isnt that impressive, just a batch of mmo's to take notice of, and games you get on the 360 or ps3. Save for a couple of awesome RTS's :D

tell you what though diortem, the pc lineup isnt that impressive, just a batch of mmo's to take notice of, and games you get on the 360 or ps3. Save for a couple of awesome RTS's :D

WOW i think you may have a crappy PC. everything looks better on PC so any game you can get on PC and ps3 is going to look and control better on the pc.and the lineup for the pc is like 1 MILLION times the size of what will EVER be available for the PS3 . indie games? not on ps3 mod scene? nonexistent yah even for UT3 which was lets face it a flop. guess ps3 fanbois say wait till 2009 well beat the 360 that year

i have all 3 systems both handhelds and a decent PC guess what gets used for gaming the most (hint its the 360)

360 is the king now, and will continue be the King in the niche that it has aimed for, the hardcore, frat boy gaming community for its current great list of exclusives... and in this M$ has won decisively....at least in America...

PS3 is at rockbottom now.. but as they say, its always darkest before the dawn, and i'm sure they will at least rise up in some fashion this year...

The battle now will be to capture the allegiences of the millions of PS2 fence sitters who have yet to decide which next(current) gen console to go for....(I'm one of them, but then again i'm kinda an on/off harcore PC/PS2 gamer)

So i say 360 at present....

tell you what though diortem, the pc lineup isnt that impressive, just a batch of mmo's to take notice of, and games you get on the 360 or ps3. Save for a couple of awesome RTS's :D

Crysis, Hellgate, almost EVERYTHING on 360....

and a total library spanning the life of this, the last, and most likely the gen before that in consoles... that work with little to no effort on today's versions of Windows. (And many more if you dont mind the effort)

Id call that a library to reckon with.

well if you want a blu ray player that can also play uncharted get the ps3 if you want a gaming system get the 360 of and anyone who thinks 2008 isnt a big year for 360 is on crack (not he drug but the butt) exclusive GTA 4 content lost odesy alan wake too human oh and HALO WARS, now given 2009 is till up for grabs but by that time youll be looking forward to the xbox 720 in 2010 and the ps4 in late 2011

You're a ****ing moron.

GTA4 exlusive content is one in the bag for microsoft (albiet and expensive one) and nobody knows what the hell Alan Wake is...

Halo Wars is just a disaster looking for a place to happen...

And Lost Oddessey is looking to be a Final Fantasy wannabe, I had some hype before it, before they said they had 4 ****ing hours of flashback text reading...

Like really, what the **** is that?

That leaves Ninja Gaiden 2, which while it will be good...

It's just Ninja Gaiden 1.5, and pales in every way compared t DMC4, which will be the better action game on both consoles... Ninja Gaiden 2 really needs to change more, make it more smooth, more accessible, and please for the love of God, have real time weapon switching without going into a menu...


Too Human is a joke to most people, but I'm actually looking forward to it, looks like it might be great if done right.

Crysis, Hellgate, almost EVERYTHING on 360....

and a total library spanning the life of this, the last, and most likely the gen before that in consoles... that work with little to no effort on today's versions of Windows. (And many more if you dont mind the effort)

Id call that a library to reckon with.

That's why I'll always be a PC/PS3 gamer, PC primarily, the PC is just a better version fo a 360. And PS3 I use for different types of games that I can't get on PC.

We agree, actually, though my alternate of choice is the Wii.... for pretty much the exact same reasons though...

I have enough friends that have a Wii that I don't need to buy it.

But yes, essentially we are in agreement.

now that people are mentioning pc gaming, i have a mac and my old pc runs windows 95 so there is no way i would go pc. my mind is pretty much made up. it is just a matter of when i get it

lol the PS3 is like the biggest flop since the Saturn. last gen sony had exclusives in droves now they have few to none. the reason for this is PS3 is hands down the worst console on the market at the moment. if you look at sonys sales for december you will see that the PS2 OUTSOLD the ps3. and those people who say the masses that own a PS2 now will upgrade to the PS3 there is no data to support this in fact if you exted the currend buying trends it would lead to at the end of 2008 the 360 and wii being about tied and the ps3 being around 7.8 Million less than both (not combined) however the wii is supply constrained ATM so if they rap up production thats could go i dunno where

You're an idiot, I didn't have to read past your second sentence to have to arrive to that conclusion.

And I'm no Sony fanboy, speaking of which, PopTrogdor seems to be more mellow lately...

You're an idiot, I didn't have to read past your second sentence to have to arrive to that conclusion.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/rothbart_photos/ignore_gliff159.jpg

I didn't know you could do that, thanks.

Done like dinner.

You're an idiot, I didn't have to read past your second sentence to have to arrive to that conclusion.

And I'm no Sony fanboy, speaking of which, PopTrogdor seems to be more mellow lately...

haha, ill take that as a compliment :P
and yeh, i given up trying to stop the fanbois from the opposite camp. And i have always stated that i liked my 360 and would get another one at some point.

Anywho, the saturn was awesome, i loved virtual cop 2, used to know where every enemy was mwahaha, sad i know -_- and, its people like gliff who give gamers a bad name, citing other peoples stuff and coming up with lame conclusions that dont make sense. He apparently owns all three consoles, yet he actually despises the ps3. If you dont like it so much gliff, get rid of it, and stop bringing your shite onto this forum labelled 'Playstation 3' unless you have anything better to say than "ps3 is shit lolz", thanks

oh and nice 1 roth :P

Have you ever heard a whiny English kid? At least they make sense. Except for the ones who obviously haven't even started puberty who stilll think cursing makes them cool.

Thats a very good point my friend, I will add has less whiny english kids to list of reason to get the ps3.

Ok, I'll place a bet (currency can be worked out later) - at the moment the ratio on this poll for 360:PS3 is about 60/40....

I bet that ratio doesn't change.

Not that I think there's anything wrong with the PS3 - its technically better than the 360 and will have equal, if not better games in the next couple of years, but I'd still put money on that ratio not changing too dramatically....

Ok, I'll place a bet (currency can be worked out later) - at the moment the ratio on this poll for 360:PS3 is about 60/40....

I bet that ratio doesn't change.

Not that I think there's anything wrong with the PS3 - its technically better than the 360 and will have equal, if not better games in the next couple of years, but I'd still put money on that ratio not changing too dramatically....

Can people who can alter the poll values take you up on that bet? :D

i can alter the pole?!?!?!?! pray tell how

i can alter the pole?!?!?!?! pray tell how

I think I'm suddenly uncomfortable with you asking me how to alter your "pole"...

oh come on i will not alter it...to much