I love my psp, and you can too for ... oh wait this is the wrong forum for that.... Anyway, lets here it fanboys.... best evar?

Dunno... Better than DS for me. But Tetris is better :D

FAct: If the PSP didn't have mods it would suck.

Fact: THe DS rocks even with its more cost consuming mod scene.

I love both my PSP and DS. PSP is great for games more centred around great graphics then the DS is, but the DS makes up for this in the amount of fun it is.

Personally, I love my PSP for games like Puzzle Quest (yes, I know it's available on DS, but I bought the game for PSP before I had a DS), Locoroco and Lego Star Wars. However, I love my DS for games like Ace Attorney 1 & 2, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Mario, etc.

As for it being the best handheld, erm... well... if you don't mind not being able to put music or surf the web on your DS without buying extra crap, I'd say the DS isn't very far at all behind the PSP.

Until they came up with the PS1 Emulator the PSP collected for the most time dust. And now it has at least found a purpose with the PS3->PSP video streaming.
But I have high hopes for SH: origins and GoW.

Since I don't play with my DS much either, I would say that the PSP is the better system for me because of said video streaming.

I prefer DS much more to a PSP. Because DS is ALOT cheaper and more fun in my opinion. Plus DS has so many cool features such as a Touch Screen where you can experience new gameplay styles, DS Download Play where you can have multiplayer on some games using ONLY 1 game card. Picto Chat is also a cool little feature for talking to DS users near by. You have 2 game libraries with DS as it can play GBA games. The DS also has a Microphone for whether you're blowing up balloons in Mario Kart DS or talking to your friends on MPH Online. There are a couple more features for the DS but I'm sure you can all understand why I like the DS.

Sega Game Gear. First handheld with a colorscreen. 4 hour battery life.... does it get any better then that?!

Sega Game Gear. First handheld with a colorscreen. 4 hour battery life.... does it get any better then that?!

That's not true. The game gear was released in 1990. The Atari Lynx was released in 1989.

I really do like my PSP but I feel they dropped the ball on SO MUCH POTENTIAL by not including the 2nd analog nub. And that they didn't add it in the "redesign" sadden (but didn't surprise) me. Hardware-wise, it's an impressive little machine... but "best" is such a subjective term, this thread is bound to annoy people.

That said, I use my PSP weekly, and can't remember the last time I touched my DS.

Wow....this hasn't become a flame fest yet. I'm so impressed by you guys!

Anyway, I have both a PSP and a DS lite and they take turns collecting dust. For me, I have the most fun playing Mario Kart DS online = the touchscreen isn't anything more than a gimmick.

I've also played through Daxter and Syphon Filter for DS and loved ever minute of it. Loco Roco is still great to pick up, play for 5 minutes and put down before I have to go to work. I've also found that games like Bleach: Heat and soul 4 imported from Japan have a lot to offer ,and even if you don't know Japanese, it's worth getting a PSP just to play them.

IMHO the PSP is a better system, and just because it has great graphics doesn't make it any less "fun" than the DS. I hear that argument a lot: PSP = graphics, DS = fun. Blatantly not true. They both have a lot to offer, but especially with homebrew, which I use a lot, the PSP has more.

I never really liked Loco Rocco.... =/

That's not true. The game gear was released in 1990. The Atari Lynx was released in 1989.

Curses! Foiled by the facts! Good show, I'll beat them someday with conjecture and opinion. Someday, the facts will lose!!!

Sold it to buy a 360!

I've never had a PSP, but my DS only avoids collecting dust by playing GBA games so..... I vote the Game Boy Advanced SP as the best.

Wow....this hasn't become a flame fest yet. I'm so impressed by you guys!

Anyway, I have both a PSP and a DS lite and they take turns collecting dust. For me, I have the most fun playing Mario Kart DS online = the touchscreen isn't anything more than a gimmick.

I've also played through Daxter and Syphon Filter for DS and loved ever minute of it. Loco Roco is still great to pick up, play for 5 minutes and put down before I have to go to work. I've also found that games like Bleach: Heat and soul 4 imported from Japan have a lot to offer ,and even if you don't know Japanese, it's worth getting a PSP just to play them.

IMHO the PSP is a better system, and just because it has great graphics doesn't make it any less "fun" than the DS. I hear that argument a lot: PSP = graphics, DS = fun. Blatantly not true. They both have a lot to offer, but especially with homebrew, which I use a lot, the PSP has more.
If you haven`t played Elite Beat Agents, then you can't call the touch screen a gimmick

DS wins because of superior fps control [mph] and uber japan imports [osu taketake ouendan]

If you haven`t played Elite Beat Agents, then you can't call the touch screen a gimmick

Wait, so if I have played Elite Beat Agents then I can call the touch screen a gimmick? Is that what you meant to say? :rolleyes:

Sega Game Gear. First handheld with a colorscreen. 4 hour battery life.... does it get any better then that?!

You forgot to mention the 4 hour battery life is with 6 AAs. What a wallet tragedy.

Wait, so if I have played Elite Beat Agents then I can call the touch screen a gimmick? Is that what you meant to say? :rolleyes:
Yep :) !

question is..... have you?

Yep :) !

question is..... have you?

No. But the touch screen is a gimmick that I like...

No. But the touch screen is a gimmick that I like...

Sorry rothbart but I completely agree with Kanbei, I thought the DS touch screen was a gimmick until I played Elite Beat Agents and Osu Tatakae Ouendan.

I sold mine when i didn't play it for 6 months, so much potential, but hampered by lazy developers, I was sick of constant ps1 and ps2 ports.

I've seen that they break easily and don't have that many good games out, not to mention their games cost a lot. Of course the graphics are pretty nice for a handheld, but I mean, they're still pretty bad, and doesn't really make up for almost impossible to control game play, and horrible battery life.

I've seen that they break easily and don't have that many good games out

I realize that gamers' tastes vary, but there ARE a lot of good games out for the PSP. Metacritic.com has 49 PSP games listed with scores of 80 or higher (http://www.metacritic.com/games/psp/scores/) (that's where I personally draw the line of "good"). The DS has 40 listed (http://www.metacritic.com/games/ds/scores/) with scores in that range.

That's almost 25% more good games on the PSP than the DS based on my arbitrary "80 and over is good" rule and Metacritic's collection of reviews.

I'm just sayin'...

It's the best because of the hacking potential, as well as all the homebrew thats out there. If your looking at a PURE decision, the DS wins because it has the better titles, online play coming into its own, and the number of QUALITY titles out there. It was a sad day for me when the DS version of the Transformers was better than every other goddamn console version of it.

It's the best because of the hacking potential, as well as all the homebrew thats out there. If your looking at a PURE decision, the DS wins because it has the better titles, online play coming into its own, and the number of QUALITY titles out there.

But I've just pointed out that Metacritic has approximately 25% more games rated 80-100% than the DS does. And none of those games take hacking into account. And a lot of those already offer online play as well.

Shouldn't Metacritic (a collection of reviews from multiple sources boiled down into an averaged score) be a valid reflection of game reviews? And if it is skewed somewhat, you think it's skewed in such a way that DS games rate lower than PSP games?

IMO, one area where the DS shines over the PSP is in the multiple-players on one cartridge. The PSP can do gameshare, but it largely doesn't and it's nice to have that easier social gaming.

psp by far love it great titles gta series god of war lot more

Both GTA games were good on the PSP, but we can't count the God of War Chicken (I smell a KFC tie-in) before it hatches.

I would rather use a DS because you can play excellent online games, buy good Homebrew Runners (R4, M3 stuff like that) and it contains a better homebrew collection but the PSP has better Media, and you dont have to pay £30 for a Browser.

Good God no. Terrible battery life, UMDs, an easy-to-smudge screen, still not a large enough library of great games don't make the best handheld ever.

I mean, it's great, don't get me wrong -- I play mine pretty frequently, mostly for MLB 07 but also Lumines, Crush, GTA.. it's just definitely not the greatest handheld ever.

For sure. I will never get a DS or some retro Nintendo product again. I have every NES SNES and 64 Rom I could want and they are free to play on my PC with a controller. Why on earth would I buy a game for 30 dollars or more from 10 years ago no less.

Now I game a lot on mine...I bought a good second battery and a screen cover and all is well. Batteries last more than long enough used together. Screen is pristine. What I really love though is movies. I travel like mad and I have lots of movies on my two sticks. Plus music videos rather than Mp3's...and I have one with some homebrew too. Cost a bit more...DS will always dominate because of price and easy use with tons of reworked classics...but it just can't do 1/10th what my PsP's can.

Tekken: Dark Resurrection, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, Burnout Legends, X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse etc... are all awesome on PSP with some really good ones like God of War on the horizon.

OMG... The DS Touchscreen is no way a gimmick, it's fantastic! The touchscreen is one reason why the DS is murdering the PSP in sales!

And no, I am not bashing the PSP. I think that it's a great hand held, but I'm just saying that the DS has more power over the PSP.

OMG... The DS Touchscreen is no way a gimmick, it's fantastic! The touchscreen is one reason why the DS is murdering the PSP in sales!

So you think it has nothing to do with the fact that Nintendo products are always SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than Sony products? Because I would think that had a great affect on sales too.

Don't get me wrong, I have a DS and a PSP and for me, I play games on the PSP more than DS and I use the PSP for a lot more than games... but I realize that I'm in the minority there...

I love my PSP....I pretty much bought it for homebrew and all those cool things you can do with it.

Oh goody, this is right up my alley!


I personally believe that Sony products are more about style then substance. What makes the PSP different from the other AB Button handhelds? Oh yeah, the tons of added stuff they put on because it wouldn't sell otherwise. It has a few good games, but like people use the N-gage only as a phone, most people only use the PSP as a 200$ mp3 player.


Yes, I compared the PSP to the N-gage.

I personally believe that Sony products are more about style then substance. What makes the PSP different from the other AB Button handhelds? Oh yeah, the tons of added stuff they put on because it wouldn't sell otherwise. It has a few good games

A "few" good games?

This list was created and maintained by Andy787 over at NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188225)... clearly, there is a lot of fun to be had regardless of your favorite gaming genres.-
To carry on the fine tradition of evangelizing the great, sorely under-appreciated PSP library, and also as a primer to introduce what will surely be many new PSP owners, I present the latest edition of the New PSP Thread of Excellent Games!

Excellent Games available now:

Wipeout Pure
Racing / SCEA / Studio Liverpool
http://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/585/585944/wipeout-pure-20050207030301081.jpg

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Stealth-Action / Konami / Kojima Productions
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/128/932978_20060509_screen006.jpg

Jeanne D' Ark
SRPG / SCEA / Level-5
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/934454_20070711_screen004.jpg

Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Stealth-Action / SCEA / Sony Bend
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/685/685933/syphon-filter-dark-mirror-20060206012938606.jpg

Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
Action / Rockstar Games / Rockstar Leeds
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/254/925776_20050912_screen009.jpg

Tekken: Dark Resurrection
Fighting / Namco / Namco
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/047/932102_20060218_screen051.jpg

Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters
Action-Platformer / SCEA / High Impact Games
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/110/reviews/932613_20060421_screen002.jpg

Killzone Liberation
Action / SCEA / Guerrilla
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/705/705264/killzone-liberation-20060505110807708.jpg

Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
Action-Platformer / Capcom / Capcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/312/929705_20051109_screen008.jpg

Mega Man Powered Up
Action-Platformer / Capcom / Capcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/054/reviews/929675_20060224_screen016.jpg

Ultimate Ghosts & Goblins
Action-Platformer / Capcom / Capcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/103/929657_20060414_screen006.jpg

Monster Hunter Freedom
Action-RPG / Capcom / Capcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/258/928336_20050916_screen001.jpg

Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Action-RPG / Capcom / Capcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/263/934395_20060922_screen003.jpg

Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
Puzzle-RPG / D3 / Vicious Cycle
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/344/reviews/937199_20061211_screen005.jpg

Crush
Puzzle / SEGA / Zoe Mode
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/155/reviews/937957_20070605_screen002.jpg

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
Action / Rockstar Games / Rockstar Leeds
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/257/933097_20060915_screen006.jpg

Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Flight-Combat / Namco / Team Aces
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060414/acx17.jpg

Me & My Katamari
Rolling a Ball Sim / Namco / Namco
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/348/reviews/929985_20051215_screen003.jpg

Loco Roco
Rolling Little Blob Guys Sim / SCEA / Japan Studio
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/718/718227/locoroco-20060712103131731.jpg

Daxter
Platformer / SCEA / Ready at Dawn
http://www.gamestoaster.com/photos/uncategorized/daxter_psp.jpg

Ridge Racer
Racing / Namco / Namco
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/136/920779_20050517_screen003.jpg

Metal Gear Acid
Strategy / Konami / Kojima Productions
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/026/920776_20050127_screen005.jpg

Metal Gear Acid 2
Strategy / Konami / Kojima Productions
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/136/928434_20050517_screen002.jpg

Sid Meier's Pirates!
Simulation / 2K Games / Full Fat
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/318/936843_20061115_screen001.jpg

Field Commander
Strategy / Sony Online Entertainment / Sony Online Entertainment
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/081/929680_20060323_screen011.jpg

Lumines
Puzzle / Ubisoft / Q Entertainment
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/598/598419/lumines-20050323042720288.jpg

Lumines II
Puzzle / Buena Vista Games / Q Entertainment
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/703/703345/lumines-2-20060426103033604.jpg

Every Extend Extra
Puzzle / Buena Vista Games / Q Entertainment
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/208/reviews/930006_20060728_screen014.jpg

Gunpey
Puzzle / Namco-Bandai Games / Q Entertainment
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/305/934343_20061102_screen006.jpg

Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee
Sports / SCEA / Clap Hanz
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/572/572374/hot-shots-golf-20041210101911346.jpg

Brave Story: New Traveler
RPG / XSeed Games / Game Republic
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060428/brave19.jpg

Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
RPG / Square-Enix / Tri-Ace
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/173/reviews/931113_20060623_screen002.jpg

Final Fantasy
RPG / Square-Enix / Square-Enix
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/106/937909_20070417_screen006.jpg

Tales of Eternia
RPG / Namco / Namco
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/551/551278/tales-of-eternia-20040925110926859.jpg

Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology
RPG / Namco / Alfa System
http://namco-ch.net/radiantmythology/common/popup/images/scr10_4b.jpg

Gitaroo-Man Lives!
Rhythm / Koei / Inis
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/705/705011/e3-2006-gitaroo-man-lives-screens-20060504011032074.jpg

Exit
Puzzle / Ubisoft / Taito
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20051108/exit22.jpg

Dead Head Fred
Action / D3 Publisher / Vicious Cycle
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/818/818526/dead-head-fred-20070906065306772-000.jpg

SOCOM: US Navy Seals Fireteam Bravo
Action / SCEA / Zipper Interactive
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/611/611749/socom-us-navy-seals-psp-20050512110221258.jpg

SOCOM: US Navy Seals Fireteam Bravo 2
Action / SCEA / Zipper Interactive
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/312/reviews/932644_20061109_screen001.jpg

Pursuit Force
Action / SCEA / BigBig
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/065/reviews/926523_20060307_screen003.jpg

Burnout Legends
Racing / EA / Criterion Games
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/137/921495_20050518_screen001.jpg

Burnout Dominator
Racing / EA / Criterion Games
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/009/933708_20070110_screen003.jpg

Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure
Action-Adventure / Mastiff / Falcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/296/932300_20061024_screen017.jpg

Powerstone Collection
Fighting / Capcom / Capcom
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/735/735134/power-stone-collection-20060925012943210.jpg

Gradius Collection
Shooter / Konami / Konami
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/128/930702_20060509_screen007.jpg

Parodius Portable
Shooter / Konami / Konami
http://www.cf-network.com/cfan/IMG/jpg/02-635.jpg

Salamander Portable
Salamander Simulation / Konami / Konami
http://i17.tinypic.com/4ml5c0z.jpg

Street Fighter Alpha 3: MAX
Fighting / Capcom / Capcom
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/318/928337_20051115_screen002.jpg

Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast
Racing / SEGA / Sumo Digital
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/073/930973_20060315_screen003.jpg

Twisted Metal: Head-On
Car Combat / SCEA / Incognito
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/577/577582/twisted-metal-head-on-20050105061927966.jpg

GripShift
Racing-Platformer / Red Mile Entertainment / Sidhe Entertainment
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/214/928224_20050803_screen002.jpg

DJ Max Portable 1 & 2
Rhythm / Pentavision / Pentavision
http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07366/djmaxss1.jpg

Noteworthy Games to Look Forward to:

Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII / TBA
Action-RPG / Square-Enix / Square-Enix
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/131/925138_20070512_screen002.jpg

God of War: Chains of Olympus / March 3, 2008
Action / SCEA / Ready at Dawn
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/236/938607_20070825_screen004.jpg

Wipeout Pulse / September 2007
Racing / SCEA / Studio Liverpool
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/236/938816_20070825_screen007.jpg

Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles / October 23, 2007
Action-Platformer / Konami / Konami
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/789/789235/castlevania-dracula-x-chronicles-20070517015550999.jpg

Silent Hill: Origins / November 6, 2007
Survival Horror / Konami / Climax
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/191/933072_20070711_screen005.jpg

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops PLUS / TBA
Stealth-Action / Konami / Kojima Productions
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/233/942155_20070822_screen004.jpg

Patapon / TBA
Rhythm-Action / SCEA / Japan Studio
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2007/08/25/h-104_77026_patapom0827gamen01.jpg.jpg

Echochrome / TBA
Puzzle / SCEA / Japan Studio
http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/echochrome7.jpg

Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow / October 2, 2007
Stealth-Action / SCEA / Sony Bend
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/803/803714/syphon-filter-logans-shadow-20070711050705159.jpg

SOCOM: US Navy Seals Tactical Strike / November 6, 2007[/i]
Action / SCEA / Slant Six
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/787/787897/socom-us-navy-seals-tactical-strike-20070511041148825.jpg

SWAT: Target Liberty / October 16th, 2007
Action-Strategy / Sierra Entertainment / 3G Studios
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/108/939011_20070419_screen006.jpg

Warhammer 40,000: Squad Command / November 11, 2007
Strategy / THQ / THQ
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/804/804568/warhammer-40000-squad-command--20070712093945384.jpg

Final Fantasy: Dissidia / TBA
Fighting / Square-Enix / Square-Enix
http://www.vidaextra.com/images/2007/06/snipshot_e41hkll3h2el.jpg

Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions / October 9, 2007
SRPG / Square-Enix / Square-Enix
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/186/937312_20070706_screen013.jpg

Star Ocean: First Departure / TBA
RPG / Square-Enix / Square-Enix
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070907/staro04.jpg

Star Ocean: The Second Evolution / TBA
RPG / Square-Enix / Square-Enix
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070907/staro07.jpg

Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness / October 30, 2007
SRPG / NIS America / Nippon Ichi Software
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/087/935234_20070329_screen004.jpg

Harvey Birdman / November 13, 2007
Courtroom Sim / Capcom / High Voltage Software
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/804/804521/harvey-birdman-attorney-at-law--20070712083630748.jpg

Pursuit Force 2: Extreme Justice / November 6, 2007
Action / SCEA / BigBig Studios
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/803/803707/pursuit-force-extreme-justice-20070711050052866.jpg

Notable games not shown due to lack of screenshots and/or lulz:

GT Mobile
Racing / SCEA / lolol

Devil May Cry
Action / Capcom / lolol

And of course, feel free to add any of your personal favorites that I may have missed, or that you think deserve special praise. When it came to multiplatform or compilation titles, I tried to limit the selections to titles that had been given PSP-specific attention, or were particularly suited to the PSP's features/design.

^^ Those are all opinion, out of the 72 games you listed there Im only mildly interested in 13 of those games, they are the following:

GTA: Vice City Stories
GTA: Liberty City Stories
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
Daxter
Me and My Katamary
Field Commander
Crisis Core: FF7
Burnout Legends
Burnout Dominator
Monster Hunters Freedom 2
Mega Man Maverick X
Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War on the Lions


Now I can see how some of the games can apeal to others far greater then they apeal to me like God of War, and MGS Portable Ops, but to me thats not an excellent gaming library, most are mediocre.

The best hand held was the orignal Gameboy with Tertis - even after all these years (and no don't remind me how long ago it was) I still put in my 4 AA batteries and play it. It was just a prefect combination.

I now have both a psp and a ds, and to be truthful. I am dissappointed with both. They both have some games I love playing but I feel that both have consoles have there flaws.

I tend to use my PSP in the smallest room in the house and when I'm in bed, as it is just not portable enough - unless I carry a manbag to put it in. But it has the best hend held game of this genteration so far in Loco Roco. Sony should have marketed this a lot better than they did. It also has one of the most interesting titles coming to it, Echochrome. Both of these are unique and interesting titles.

Now to the DS, it has a great design, it fits in my jeans pockets so I can easily take with me when I travel and there are some great travel games but here the problem - most them I could have played on my Gameboy SP. Now don't get me work I have Mariokart , and the new mario game and even though they are good games it's not nothing new. I sometimes feel that Nintendo can be the most daring and conservative of companies at the same time.

Tetris on the DS beats Tetris on the GB anyday

^^ Those are all opinion, out of the 72 games you listed there Im only mildly interested in 13 of those games, they are the following:

GTA: Vice City Stories
GTA: Liberty City Stories
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
Daxter
Me and My Katamary
Field Commander
Crisis Core: FF7
Burnout Legends
Burnout Dominator
Monster Hunters Freedom 2
Mega Man Maverick X
Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War on the Lions


Now I can see how some of the games can apeal to others far greater then they apeal to me like God of War, and MGS Portable Ops, but to me thats not an excellent gaming library, most are mediocre.


Well, if there are only 13... yeah... screw it then... a system sucks if there are only a baker's dozen games you're interested in... <--- that's a triple helping of sarcasm! :D

Oh, and yeah, of course they're opinions... as are all reviews and recommendations from any source.

My two closest friends both bought PSP Slims this week. One had an original PSP from launch and sold it after a couple months, the other sold his DS to get the PSP (I question that move as he couldn't have gotten much, I'd have kept the DS too).

I would be lucky if i would find just 5 games on my DS I'm interested in ;)


btw. did I mention that I'm in love again with my PSP, since I found Jeanne D'Arc?

Well, if there are only 13... yeah... screw it then... a system sucks if there are only a baker's dozen games you're interested in... <--- that's a triple helping of sarcasm! :D


I never said the system sucked, all I was trying to say was that the PSP's library is mediocre with a dozen or more excellent games, but I chose the DS cause it has so many games that are just really awesome and are really fun. I dont need 2 handhelds.

I never said the system sucked, all I was trying to say was that the PSP's library is mediocre with a dozen or more excellent games, but I chose the DS cause it has so many games that are just really awesome and are really fun. I dont need 2 handhelds.

If you go to metacritic, the PSP has more games scored 80 or higher than the DS. I'm certainly not trying to imply you're wrong, but "on the whole", it would seem reviewers disagree somewhat with your opinion... or else there would be more games rated 80 and higher on the DS.

i'm not going to read 5 pages because i have to leave now but to answer the topic title no a DS is FAR better than a psp. its just more.... fun? the psp gets decen reviews and stuff because of graphics but DS is more fun (AKA. the origional point of gaming hat has become long-forgotten(but fun's alot shorter))

Got my new PSP slim on order and should be here soon'ish. From what my peeps have said the 'improvements to performance and load times' are totally undervalued. Will pop back as soon as I have it and can mess round a bit more.

i'm not going to read 5 pages because i have to leave now but to answer the topic title no a DS is FAR better than a psp. its just more.... fun? the psp gets decen reviews and stuff because of graphics but DS is more fun (AKA. the origional point of gaming hat has become long-forgotten(but fun's alot shorter))


I think your post is incomplete (http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=cow&url=http%3A//www.docadamsaudio.com/forums/showpost.php%3Fp%3D9038), I added what was missing.

BTW, personally I hate it when people say crap like "I'm too lazy to read what you guys have said... but LOOK AT ME!".

I bought a DS soon after it first came out, and it is fun, but now that my friends all have PSPs and I see how sweet they actually are, well... I'm now regretting my decision.

I am the proud owner of both the PSP and the DS and both have their faults and good sides. PSP has great homebrews, mods and emulators. However in my opinion I like the DS better because not only do I have more games for it then I do for my PSP but there are alot of good series on the DS that I like. Let's take for example the Phoenix wright games you aren't going to find those on the PSP. Now I'm not saying the PSP doesn't have any good games it has Me and My katamri and loco roco and other great series, but still I would prefer the DS over the PSP anyday.

I am the proud owner of both the PSP and the DS and both have their faults and good sides. PSP has great homebrews, mods and emulators. However in my opinion I like the DS better because not only do I have more games for it then I do for my PSP but there are alot of good series on the DS that I like. Let's take for example the Phoenix wright games you aren't going to find those on the PSP. Now I'm not saying the PSP doesn't have any good games it has Me and My katamri and loco roco and other great series, but still I would prefer the DS over the PSP anyday.

agreed, that would have been much easier to say then what I had said.........:p

I love my PSP so mutch...
More then my Ps2
More then my 360 (atm)
and more then a ps3, whits i dont have.

I take the psp whit me to wear ever i go, and still its not broken down.
Putten some nice fun stuff and hacks on it.
like streaming Audio from my P.C , listening to my own music ingame, and Using it as a vitual controller for my p.c.
A remote controll for my X box.
and some other things.

Only minus point on the psp is his missing second analog stick, whits, you only need that in some FPS games.

I wonder what sony was thinking whit there, "you need a ps3 to be able to play PSX games"
now i am just ripping my own PSX CD's and putting it on my stick ofc....
but what gives trying to make me buy the PS3 for that?

I wonder what sony was thinking whit there, "you need a ps3 to be able to play PSX games"


Not that I expect you to stop ripping your own CDs, but Sony just annoucned at TGS yesterday that (effective immediately in Japan at least) you'll be able to access PSN from both a PC and PSP connected to a PC). What this really means is that you'll apparently be able to buy PSOne games without the PS3 in the middle. I looked at the Japanese store and it works... but it's... in Japanese. ;)

Why buy a PSP? All you need is a DS with some expansion pak for GPU and Ram with a Flash Card and get a PSP emulator for DS (never happen probably). So why buy a PSP when you have a massive homebrew for DS already but PSP has better homebrew but you never beat the PC at homebrew? Right?

I never really used my PSP, I think that was the beginning of the end for me and Sony.

I got one, I love it, so YES! I mean in this business its prolly Nintendo DS vs. PSP, and with PSP, you can watch movies, you can listen to music, you can surf the web, you run windows on it ( ;) ) etc etc =D so...the DS just cant cut it.

I got one, I love it, so YES! I mean in this business its prolly Nintendo DS vs. PSP, and with PSP, you can watch movies, you can listen to music, you can surf the web, you run windows on it ( ;) ) etc etc =D so...the DS just cant cut it.

yes, obviously since it didnt come out with something inevative and it isnt fun. *Sarcasm* Just because Nintendo didnt put any of those fancy gadgets, and were more focused on inovation, doesnt mean the DS is not fun and cant compete with the PSP. All Sony did was pack a lot of gadgets and gizmos into its hand- held. Pack a less graphicle PS2 in it, and theres your hand-held. Im not saying its bad, Im saying that I find the DS new, and refreshing and fun. Nintendo has always had the hand-helds spot on.

yes, obviously since it didnt come out with something inevative and it isnt fun. *Sarcasm* Just because Nintendo didnt put any of those fancy gadgets, and were more focused on inovation, doesnt mean the DS is not fun and cant compete with the PSP. All Sony did was pack a lot of gadgets and gizmos into its hand- held. Pack a less graphicle PS2 in it, and theres your hand-held. Im not saying its bad, Im saying that I find the DS new, and refreshing and fun. Nintendo has always had the hand-helds spot on. Ya thats true, but imo the DS is more of kids toy, its stuck with supermario and some puppy simulator, while the PSP has God of War! =D And admitedly, my thumb hurts after playing PSP for a while, that joystick is mean :p

yes, obviously since it didnt come out with something inevative and it isnt fun. *Sarcasm* Just because Nintendo didnt put any of those fancy gadgets, and were more focused on inovation, doesnt mean the DS is not fun and cant compete with the PSP. All Sony did was pack a lot of gadgets and gizmos into its hand- held. Pack a less graphicle PS2 in it, and theres your hand-held. Im not saying its bad, Im saying that I find the DS new, and refreshing and fun. Nintendo has always had the hand-helds spot on.

New doesn't automatically equal fun. You see I'm the first to say that I welcome fresh ideas, but developers don't know how to use the tacked on gimicks like the mic and touchscreen of the DS. There are some games which utilizes the DS in a good manner but mostly those DS games are unimaginative or just a bunch of minigames. For some reason almost all developers seem to think that their games absolutely has to use the stylus. Thats my main complaint I have with the DS (and with the wii for that matter).

I enjoy games on both systems, but if the question is literally is the PSP the best handheld ever, does that necessarily have to take into account the games? I've listed earlier in this thread that according to metacritic, there are more games rated 80 and above for the PSP than the DS... but looking solely at the system itself...

I mean I think hands down that the PS3 is a superior console over the Xbox 360, yet I think the 360 clearly has the superior game library.

Taking the system itself as the sole basis for judgement, then hands down in my opinion the PSP is superior to the DS. The question then becomes do I think the PSP is better than any other handheld out there? If you're limiting yourself to handheld gaming systems, then yes. I do.

That's a lot of disclaimers though... most definitely there are games that are possible only on the PSP or the DS. It all comes down to which games, interface(s), and "extra" features you like.

Personally, I use my PSP for non-gaming functions more than gaming. That said, I rarely play DS games even though we have about a dozen of them.

rothbart i kinda disagree with you but why pay about £230 for a full PSP set when you can play £100 less for a DS and a flash card. I take some crap for being a DS fanboy but that was the one that has the games I like more than the PSP because it has Final Fantasy. I love FFIII but if anyone can tell me an original FF game remade from 2D on the PSP I would love to know because there probably isnt one. I love the DS because it is a true console for online gamers because of Metroid and Mario Kart DS. Touch Generatons were for people who dont usually play video games so it makes it more accessible. If you dont agree with me i dont blame you; the DS has some flaws like no memory card but that can be fixed with a flash card with makes it into a PSP (minus the browser and some other stuff).

I'm not working piracy or homebrew into my equation at all... I'm not judging a DS with a flashcard or a hacked PSP with a giant memory stick...

The hardware of the PSP is superior to the hardware of the DS. That was the point in my last post. When you're asking which system has the best games, that's a slightly different question than what's been asked here.

Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/finalfantasyanniversaryedition/index.html?tag=result;title;9)

Final Fantasy II Anniversary Edition (http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/finalfantasyiianniversaryedition/index.html?tag=result;title;8)

those two are remakes of the old 2d FF's.

BUT you miss the point here. Why settle with some crappy remakes when you can just rip your original PS1 Final Fantasy's to your PSP memorystick and play it on the go?

I have FFVIII (best of the series) on my stick and it plays like a charm. I wanna see that on your DS with flash card ;)

Ye the PSP is the best handheld evah! fo sho.
Which handheld you can do this:
Play games that have the same graphics as the ps2
watching movies, listening music
browse the internet without having to buy an Opera cardridge
Expand die memory up to 8gb! ZOMG!
Change the background from the menu! woot!
Homebrew!

:)
BTW, does anyone know if theres a downgrade yet for firmware 2.81?

but a handheld is for gaming, not multi-media use. While all that stuff may be useful. It makes it more expensive. Having a bunch of features jammed into one electronic doesnt make it the best.

but a handheld is for gaming, not multi-media use. While all that stuff may be useful. It makes it more expensive. Having a bunch of features jammed into one electronic doesnt make it the best.


While I'll give you that it doesn't necessarily make it the best, you have to equally give me that it doesn't automatically disqualify it from being the best.

We're talking $40 price difference between the two units. About the price of a single game... when I weigh how much I use/play my DS and how much I use/play my PSP, there's hands down no comparison which one I use more and the extra $40 is nothing compared to the added functionality. And now I can access my media on my PS3 or networked computer via my PSP from anywhere with unsecured Wifi.

When people scream and yell "A console is for gaming" or "a handheld is for gaming" I find it really funny. People play games, take pictures, listen to music, surf the web, check email, etc. all from their cell phones. Go tell them they're just for talking. If people don't want something because it's got "extra features", don't buy it. But leave the other people that either do want it or don't care alone... it's not as if they're actually doing anything that concerns you...

For the record, that wasn't directed at you Legendtaker117, just to people that say that in general. You're not the first (and I'm sure not the last). Convergance happens. I should make that a bumper sticker or something...

I'd have to agree with Roth on this one... I have both a PSP 1 and a DS Lite... And I love both...

However I use my PSP a lot more... Even when it comes to just games...

And the great thing about the PSP is that when I feel like I've had enough of playing games I can just switch over and watch and episode of Beevis and Butthead or Shakugan no Shana, it's the ultimate convenience... And I'd pay and extra $100 for it if I had to...

Honestly I'd rather have an Ipod and a DS then a PSP. And Im sorry but the PSP doesn't really have that many great gmaes.

Honestly I'd rather have an Ipod and a DS then a PSP. And Im sorry but the PSP doesn't really have that many great gmaes.

You forgot to add "in my opinion" on the end of your post... as I pointed out earlier in this thread... the "reviewing public" seems to differ with your assessment as the PSP has more games rated 80 and higher on Metacritic than the DS does. You know what "more" means, right? ;) It means if you count the games for the DS above 80 (currently 43 of 'em) and the games for the PSP above 80 (currently 53 of 'em), you'll count to a higher number when counting the PSP games... :D :p

Honestly I'd rather have an Ipod and a DS then a PSP. And Im sorry but the PSP doesn't really have that many great gmaes.


I do have an iPod, PSP and DS Lite... And the PSP has tons of great games... And it's fall line up totally owns the DS's... Don't say such ignorant things...

And in terms of usage... my iPod owns all... And PSP comes second...

I have a PSP, and hate it. I have a DS, a love it. I think that answers the question, for me at least.

I have a PSP, and hate it. I have a DS, a love it. I think that answers the question, for me at least.


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/rothbart_photos/interweb_memes/Lebowskiopinion.jpg

I just wanted to use that image... :D

Yeah I have a DS myself, and I love the thing. But I certainly use it more for GBA games more than DS games.

I mean if we're going to get technical DS has more like... 142 if you look at its full library which would be DS (44) and GBA (98) games. With the PSP rolling in with 52...

But that's besides the point. With the price drop, the slim PSP, and the AWESOME line up I will definitely be picking one up.

In fact at one point I was considering selling the 360 and the Wii and sticking only to handhelds and PC. But that's crazy...

I mean if we're going to get technical DS has more like... 142 if you look at its full library which would be DS (44) and GBA (98) games. With the PSP rolling in with 52...

What are you talking about? I don't understand those numbers... I mean at first I thought you were referring to how many titles were available for each system but all of those numbers are waaaaaaaay too low. The PSP and DS each have well over 300 titles...

Sorry, forgot to say...

Metacritic 80 or above...

Sorry, forgot to say...

Metacritic 80 or above...

Okay, cool, that's actually a rule of thumb I use too for considering a game "good".

awwww... cant we just go back to the days of the original game boy? i had so much fun with thing.
DS is the most fun
PSP is the most impressive ( hardware wise)
but the old gameboys... they just have so many happy memories for me so in my opinion they come out on top

I have a PSP, and hate it. I have a DS, a love it. I think that answers the question, for me at least.

same for me. im selling my psp for some money to buy a new pc or xbox360 or somin. psp was NOT worth the money, too crap games tbh

Wrong, the PSP has tons of great games, you're just too ignorant to know about them...

naaa :)

well his name is n00b after all XD

I really like the PSP. I bought the daxter pack specifically because Silent Hill Origins was coming out soon, and that alone warranted me a psp buy. Plus the fact that monster hunter days are numbered for sony. Considering MH3 is coming out for the Wii, MHF2 is the last game that sony is probably going to get for a while, so I didn't want to pass up on the chance.

GTA LCS is also a good one I picked up. Since I never played the other GTA games when I was younger (Parents wouldn't let me get them... so I never had a chance to get into them) I'm just starting to get into the series with the handheld version. So far it is quite the solid title.

Oh and God of War for the PSP is the second most prominent reason that I wanted one.

Psp is pretty good, but not the best.

The best wouldn't have cost the most, been easily breakable, and have barely any good games.

It has more good games then the PS3, Wii and 360 combined...

No the gameboy Micro was the best.









(JK)

i like the ds way better

It has more good games then the PS3, Wii and 360 combined...

p3 and wii yes but not the 360 dude thats just not true

I love the PSP. I have used my original PSP every single day since it was released here. My screen is still pristine, and I have had not one single problem with it. Glare is an issue but I never understood how people break theirs. I have dropped, bumped and generally put my PSP threw the ringer and it is still in great shape. I own more than 25 games that scored 80ish and above on Metacritic. I have tons of movies on my cards,music, pictures..you name it. I even went out a got one of the new ones.

No other portable can offer me these things. Without question the PSP is king.

I once owned two DS's but gave them away. The lions share of the DS highly rated games hold zero interest for me. I'm too old to play little kid games like Nintendogs and yet another Mario title.

Wow, PMPB... with the exception of me liking to play Mario games, I couldn't agree more with what you've said. That said, on Christmas day, my household will have three DSs and only one PSP.

p3 and wii yes but not the 360 dude thats just not true

No it's totally true...

I mean if we're going to get technical DS has more like... 142 if you look at its full library which would be DS (44) and GBA (98) games. With the PSP rolling in with 52...


Then by that logic, the PS3 has 529...(177(PS1) + 315(PS2) + 37(PS3))

Dude, there are WAY more than 98 games for the GBA. And WAAAAAAY more than 44. I'd suggest going to the ESRB website and checking out the full list of titles.

The PSP isn't the best ever. It's good, I'll admit, but it's not the best. Neither is the DS. There will never be a "best ever" system, or else there's no point to make any more. Once we reach the point that there's nothing left to innovate, not storage medium or graphics or processing or engaging gameplay, then there will be an ultimate sysetm.

i agree with ploogle. but so far, i like the psp the most. i still play my ds but i'm hoping that microsoft comes out with a portable xbox or something.

Dude, there are WAY more than 98 games for the GBA. And WAAAAAAY more than 44. I'd suggest going to the ESRB website and checking out the full list of titles.

We're only counting metacritic 80% and up games...

I hear that when Microsoft releases a handheld, that the battery used to power it will make the system so hot it'll start exploding in peoples hands, thus being known on the market at the HoD (handheld of death).

I hate you.

I hear that when Microsoft releases a handheld, that the battery used to power it will make the system so hot it'll start exploding in peoples hands, thus being known on the market at the HoD (handheld of death).

Sony's making the batteries?!?!

I hear that when Microsoft releases a handheld, that the battery used to power it will make the system so hot it'll start exploding in peoples hands, thus being known on the market at the HoD (handheld of death).
Hrm. Isn't Sony's batteries the ones that explode in laptops?

Hrm. Isn't Sony's batteries the ones that explode in laptops?

Yup.

Now that would be a textbook case of IRONY. :D

IM going to say I prefur the DS, but for mainly one reason....

NEVER has a portable has such a good control scheme for FPS style gaming. Yeah MPH sucked, but it set grounds for really good FPS control (almost keyboard/mouse level)... and Dementia: The Ward (if reviews are to be believed) REALLY shines with it.

That said, I wish a portable with the graphics and storage space of the PSP came out with the dual/touchscreen of the DS (I wouldnt want to have to use touch on the same screen as I was viewing in an FPS.).

THAT would be ideal....

I have dementium, It's not all that... Not bad though...

But I accidentally dropped my DS Lite into a bucket of water yesterday, otu of commision, looks like I have to get anew one...

That blows to lose any system like that.

Actually, I may be looking to add a PSP to my collection before too much longer. Silent Hill Origins looks incredible.

But I will need a few more titles to draw me in before I drop $180 on a portable.

It does suck, but I've invested too much into it and my PSP to just let them go if either of them die...

I feel both hand helds compliment each other quite well...

Silent Hill Origins wasn''t my type of game, but it sure as hell is a lot creepier than Dementium... But it needs more frequent save points...

Best ever? No, the first Game Boy is still one of the best handhelds ever. I mean the first Game Boy lasted what... 10... 12 years?

Now I just got my PSP, a shiny new PSP Slim the Star Wars one and I have to say I'm really enjoying it so far and the only game I have on it thus far is Star Wars Battlefront. Before that I had a GBA SP, the retro Nintendo one that is now owned by my Girlfriend.

Still the PSP tho I haven't had much of a chance to play on it, still just doesn't beat the Game Boy... Granted the thing was Black and White, and really big for it's time... But dear god it was a fun handheld... Besides the pack in title was Tetris! A game any good Gamer still has, mine being on my cell phone.

FAct: If the PSP didn't have mods it would suck.

Fact: THe DS rocks even with its more cost consuming mod scene.

i disagree completely i have my psp unmoded and love it what it lacks to be great is serious game development. they need better games not games that just got thrown together



the ds sucks but to each his own opinion

I love my PSP I bring it every where I go. I bring it when I'm going out with my girl, I bring it when I go to bed and even to the toilet XD.

I hate my PSP its too big and tbh i would rather have nice clean, colourful graphics like the DS's than PS1 style graphics that the PSP gives.

And i think it's embarasing to play, in public at least.

You're a complete moron...

I second that.

Does the DS have internet radio? I think not!

and I third that.

I hate my PSP its too big and tbh i would rather have nice clean, colourful graphics like the DS's than PS1 style graphics that the PSP gives.

And i think it's embarasing to play, in public at least.

Ummm...what? The DS has graphics now? I don't hate the DS but to call what it has "colorful graphics" is being very polite. And PS1 graphics on the PSP? What game, if you really played any, has graphics like that? All of the PSP AAA titles have at least PS2 level graphics or better.

And embarrassed? ? I travel all over and every time I pull it out I have people trying to check out my screen, oohing and ahhing, asking what movies I got and more.

Again, I give props to the DS for being so popular, but all I see people do when someone pulls out a DS is take one look at the screen, see Mario for the millionth time, and go about their business.

Does the DS have internet radio? I think not!

and I third that.

4th it, but also questioning why an internet radio is important in a gaming system.

PSP UNDENIABLY has the better looking graphics. What it is missing for me is a "keyboard/mouse" emmulator. (Course I was never a big portable gamer... the DS literally drew me in due to that promise, and is my first portable console... period).

4th it, but also questioning why an internet radio is important in a gaming system.

PSP UNDENIABLY has the better looking graphics. What it is missing for me is a "keyboard/mouse" emmulator. (Course I was never a big portable gamer... the DS literally drew me in due to that promise, and is my first portable console... period).

It's a cool feature, that's why. PSP is more than a gaming system. That's why I mentioned that it has Internet Radio.

i use my psp a lot for browsing the web cos i cant afford a laptop or pda etc so my psp serves a dual purpose. i dont really use it for music or movies cos i have an ipod video which covers that and the graphics are nice. what would be great is a convertor to play on the TV just like the slim one but on the fat one cos i feel left out. Graphics are nice too, it is a great console

No wai!
I sai my Dee Es Is Bettar with my Ubar speek.
>=O

No seriously, I love my DS, and my freinds say that they dont quite enjoy their PSPs and got a DS for christmas and they say they are happily enjoying it like me. :D

I never really used my PSP, I think that was the beginning of the end for me and Sony.

Can I have it? or at least 75% off?:D:D

Ummm...what? The DS has graphics now? I don't hate the DS but to call what it has "colorful graphics" is being very polite. And PS1 graphics on the PSP? What game, if you really played any, has graphics like that? All of the PSP AAA titles have at least PS2 level graphics or better.

And embarrassed? ? I travel all over and every time I pull it out I have people trying to check out my screen, oohing and ahhing, asking what movies I got and more.


Killzone for PSP and PS2 Comparison:
http://www.modojo.com/media/games/killzone_liberation/psp/3.jpg/

http://www.globaltimoto.com/Nav/SupMat/Guerrilla/Killzone_SCEE_Screenshot.jpg

Bollocks, the graphics are nothing like PS2. And when i say i find it embarrassing to play it's because many people still see portable games as a toy for children, even though this stereotype is undoubtedly wrong and far from the truth, its still makes me feel childish and immature. Whether that’s my own personal insecurities or whatever, I just don’t want to be on of those people that in the middle of a party they whip out there phone and starts playing ****ing solitaire..:)

You have issues, to put it lightly...

Maybe, but my point still stands.

the ds rules nothing can ever beat it nintendo is easily the best develepor out there!

Maybe, but my point still stands.

Stands on shaky ground.

the ds rules nothing can ever beat it nintendo is easily the best develepor out there!

Wow... I don't even know what to say about that... I guess I'll settle for "Wrong!" If you're talking specifically within the realm of DS games, then yeah, I'll concede Nintendo is the best developer out there. Hell, if you're talking Nintendo platforms in general, there's still an argument to be made that Nintendo is the best developer out there... but since you didn't qualify your statement that way, you simply get a "Wrong!" from me. ;)

I felt that rothbart was not forceful enough

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I would say the ipod touch is the best handheld device ever. And the DS is the best gaming handheld device. The PSP suffers from the fact that its a jack of all trades but doesn't master anything. The web browser is crappy, its way to bulky to be used as a mp 3 player, the game line up is lackluster at best, and the low battery life makes putting videos on it a waste of time. DS and ipod touch and your portable needs are met.

Too bad this isn't SarcasticMP3Player.com... ;)

I dunno, I love my PSP but it breaks WAY too easily. I've owned it for six months now and have already destroyed my analog stick and broken the wireless switch.

What in the hell do you do to it? I've had mine since launch and it's in pristine condition and I use it a lot... I do have a PlayGear Pocket case I keep it in (I have a tendancy to just "throw" it in my bag in the mornings or before I head home from work).

Mine I've ahd for about a year...

Everything is fine...

Except sometimes the UMD's don't read... Like the 360 problem, so I just have to eject and and reinsaert it untill it works...

I would say the ipod touch is the best handheld device ever. And the DS is the best gaming handheld device. The PSP suffers from the fact that its a jack of all trades but doesn't master anything. The web browser is crappy, its way to bulky to be used as a mp 3 player, the game line up is lackluster at best, and the low battery life makes putting videos on it a waste of time. DS and ipod touch and your portable needs are met.

Yeah i agree, my ipod touch is thinner, smaller and has a bigger screen with a better resolution versus a PSP. I prefer to mostly listen to music and podcast's over handheld games anyway. Or go on t'internet.

I think i would prefer if the PSP 2 (if there is one) would solely concentrate on gaming, im never going to listen to my music on my PSP when i already have a much better and easier to use portable music device.

Yeah i agree, my ipod touch is thinner, smaller and has a bigger screen with a better resolution versus a PSP. I prefer to mostly listen to music and podcast's over handheld games anyway. Or go on t'internet.

I think i would prefer if the PSP 2 (if there is one) would solely concentrate on gaming, im never going to listen to my music on my PSP when i already have a much better and easier to use portable music device.

The ipod touch is also $100 more

The ipod touch is also $100 more

Fair point, but personally i would still buy the ipod.

I know it's been posted elsewhere, but Sony's announcing Skype support for the PSP (http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2633) at CES next week.

Does the ipod touch do that? :rolleyes:

Fair point, but personally i would still buy the ipod.

iPod Classic is still the better buy...

Especially when you're liek my and you have way more than 16 gigs of music...

I have that and a PSP...

I know it's been posted elsewhere, but Sony's announcing Skype support for the PSP (http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2633) at CES next week.

Does the ipod touch do that? :rolleyes:

Does the PSP have a calculator? Or a built in calendar?

No, but my cellphone does, does it really matter? I never use it...

Does the PSP have a calculator? Or a built in calendar?

Mine does. Custom firmware ftmfw!

I know it's been posted elsewhere, but Sony's announcing Skype support for the PSP (http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2633) at CES next week.

Does the ipod touch do that? :rolleyes:

That is gonna be so freakin sweet! Too bad it is still a long way off for Canadians, but still hella cool.

Too bad this isn't SarcasticMP3Player.com... ;)

I dont know.... you know, concidering some people here think internet radio is a big deal on a console..... does that make this SacasticInternetRadio.com?

Just asking...

FAct: If the PSP didn't have mods it would suck.

Fact: THe DS rocks even with its more cost consuming mod scene.

absolutely right.
the psp rocks if you homebrew it.
and from what i've heard, the "unhackable" new slim one that cost $169.99 has already been hacked as well. Once you load up that 4GB or 8GB memory stick with tons of umd games ripped to it, it works great. That is the only reason i still use mine, because the loading times cut back by about 75% when you play the games from the MS.

I have seen the DS mods as well, and they seem very innovative and cool.
The dynamics that people apply to these mods using the touchscreen is astounding.:)

I know it's been posted elsewhere, but Sony's announcing Skype support for the PSP (http://www.gamercastnetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2633) at CES next week.

Does the ipod touch do that? :rolleyes:

Yes the ipod touch can do Skype. It is pointless tho since the touch doesn't have a mic.

Yes the ipod touch can do Skype. It is pointless tho since the touch doesn't have a mic.

Actually you can order custom mics from www.touchmods.net, aside from that the ivoice III (which you can find at Wal-Mart, yes I hate that place too) can work with the Ipod Touch with only slight modifications.

Aside from that, the Ipod is not the best handheld, I'm really loving my DS right now, but I wouldn't mind trying out a PSP when Crisis Core comes out.

DS just has some really damn good games out and on the way including: Phoenix Wright series, Megaman Starforce (2nd Starforce game is being translated), Zelda Phantom Hourglass, Rune Factory, FFXII: Revenant Wings, Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario Kart DS, Worms Open Warfare 1&2, and so on.

I don't see why things have to be "better" than other things with gamers, why can't people just respect other consoles for what they bring to gaming?

Although, I would kill to get Peggle on my Ipod Touch, it's available on iTunes for the classic; but not Touch. :(

I feel I need to remind the masses that after about 400 charges their iPods will never be the same again... Unless you pay a 'small fee,' of course. ;P

Well, I'm actually starting to like Renegade Squadron. I thought, since the obvious reason that I will not state here, that FPS's were the only things that didn't... feel right on the PSP. But I was wrong. While the target lock makes the game a lot more easier than it should be, the Wi-Fi multiplayer still manages to kick ass.

psp all the way. i love my psp way too much to be healthy. :D anyways, it can play movies in great res and play games along with a free internet browser! (as long as your connected.) its a portable entertainement center! :D

I don't see why things have to be "better" than other things with gamers, why can't people just respect other consoles for what they bring to gaming?

It's a "my dog's bigger then your dog" thing. But I hate dogs, so eh....

I love both my PSP and DS. PSP is great for games more centred around great graphics then the DS is, but the DS makes up for this in the amount of fun it is.

Personally, I love my PSP for games like Puzzle Quest (yes, I know it's available on DS, but I bought the game for PSP before I had a DS), Locoroco and Lego Star Wars. However, I love my DS for games like Ace Attorney 1 & 2, Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Mario, etc.

As for it being the best handheld, erm... well... if you don't mind not being able to put music or surf the web on your DS without buying extra crap, I'd say the DS isn't very far at all behind the PSP.
gotta agree with u there i kept my ds because it was the only way i could play on the latest good nintendo games and its a great system for just pure fun but the psp seems to do way more and its got some really good games that are on consoles. I also like the fact that they keep updating it with new features. Dispite all this the DS still has some really good original games that introduce something new. Plus theres games that are just fun. Its hard to say which is better for me at the minute.

I'm gonna say the DS has much better games, in my experience. I tried playing Star Wars Battlefront on my friends PSP, and I thought the controls were kind of akward. As long as you don't mind playing games other than FPSs, the DS is by far the system of choice

No.

I think we should differintiate between portable GAMING system and a portable system. If you want a good multimedia, inernet browsing device, and a game system, you get the PSP. If you only want a good internet browser, get a zune (I think, I havent reserched it) or an ipod touch. If you want a solid portable gaming system, get the DS. The ds has a wide range of games from shooters like contra 4 to pokemon. The psp has this too, but the games are not as robust.

P.S- If anyone plays Renegade Squadron on PSP, let me know (my name is TheGodOfUnholyFury)