View Full Version : Gaming magazine prints "rumors" of GTA IV's PS3 exclusive "Home" space...
rothbart 03-29-2008, 08:59 PM Yeah, it's just a rumor, but it makes you think.... it's something to counter the exclusive DLC the 360's supposed to be getting. I guess we'll see if it ends up being true...
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Inzader 03-29-2008, 09:04 PM Hell Yes!!!!!! Friking Awsome... If it's true PS3 for Teh Wind.
Cam-Dog 03-29-2008, 10:33 PM Great if its true this will really help the PS3.
If its anything like what the warhawk home functionality is it will rock!
refinedsugar 03-30-2008, 03:27 PM lol, yay, an exclusive home space ftw, lol.
nathanhale 03-30-2008, 03:42 PM omg yes! rockstar is going 2 end up smuggling virtual guns into home
chris24680 03-30-2008, 03:47 PM very cool this combines the two things i love gta and sticking it to microsoft
Sinfulfate 03-30-2008, 04:08 PM Sounds cool but most people will buy GTA IV at launch and from what I hear home could be as late as a Fall release which would be a shame. I would have loved to see my trophies I got in Uncharted in Home but by the time Home is finally released I more than likely wont even care anymore =/
Networker 03-30-2008, 04:25 PM Sounds cool but most people will buy GTA IV at launch and from what I hear home could be as late as a Fall release which would be a shame. I would have loved to see my trophies I got in Uncharted in Home but by the time Home is finally released I more than likely wont even care anymore =/
If people like you wonīt care anymore about GTA 4 by fall then who will buy the exclusive dlc that will arrive sometime next year...:huh:
Sinfulfate 03-30-2008, 04:47 PM If people like you wonīt care anymore about GTA 4 by fall then who will buy the exclusive dlc that will arrive sometime next year...:huh:
Not a fair comparison because DLC adds new content to the game while Home features will not. I care about new content added to the game but thats not what Home will add. At the same time you do bring up a good point. Will people really want to go back to GTA IV in august? That all depends on how good the DLC is. If I beat everything in GTA and new content is added I'll easily want to go back and check it out if its worth the money.
For PS3 users tho lets say Home comes out in fall, will you stop playing Little Big planet, Resistance 2, Haze, MGS 4, Socom or Killzone 2 to check out GTA IV's Home space? Of course not unless your bored of your games. Its not new content so why would you want too?
Also do you know about Rockstar's social club thing for GTA IV? It makes a GTA IV Home space useless since it will be like what Bungie.net is to Halo. Its actually pretty cool. You can read about it here.
http://kotaku.com/373057/rockstar-social-club-announced
Networker 03-30-2008, 05:14 PM Not a fair comparison because DLC adds new content to the game while Home features will not. I care about new content added to the game but thats not what Home will add. At the same time you do bring up a good point. Will people really want to go back to GTA IV in august? That all depends on how good the DLC is. If I beat everything in GTA and new content is added I'll easily want to go back and check it out if its worth the money.
For PS3 users tho lets say Home comes out in fall, will you stop playing Little Big planet, Resistance 2, Haze, MGS 4, Socom or Killzone 2 to check out GTA IV's Home space? Of course not unless your bored of your games. Its not new content so why would you want too?
Also do you know about Rockstar's social club thing for GTA IV? It makes a GTA IV Home space useless since it will be like what Bungie.net is to Halo. Its actually pretty cool. You can read about it here.
http://kotaku.com/373057/rockstar-social-club-announced
Isnīt it a bit unfair to judge something as useless when you have no idea of what it will be?
But it is still sweet that they will be doing a thing like that for both the consoles :thumbsup:
Sinfulfate 03-30-2008, 10:34 PM Isnīt it a bit unfair to judge something as useless when you have no idea of what it will be?
Not in this case. I think all the "Home" space ideas for games is useless regardless of what they do with it because these features aren't in game. That disconnect is whats makes them useless imo. Most of the Home features for games should just be in game features anyway.
slik1000 03-31-2008, 05:17 AM If this works I would buy a PS3, and GTA IV but just now I think I will stick with my '360 Copy. It seems like it will be so long before Home comes out that I will be able to afford them both then
Hooded Vendetta 03-31-2008, 06:00 AM *Orgasm*
Jokes, Its not all that really.
rothbart 03-31-2008, 10:15 AM Not in this case. I think all the "Home" space ideas for games is useless regardless of what they do with it because these features aren't in game. That disconnect is whats makes them useless imo. Most of the Home features for games should just be in game features anyway.
Get the f*** off this website... because it's not "in game" either. <--- That's a joke to illustrate my point.
You're being VERY close-minded about this. Companies are getting set to use the PS3 as a distribution method for game-specific info. You may very well find the latest GTA IV news in the GTA IV Home space, etc. You may very well find "Achievement-like" items in Home that blow away "Da-dink... Achievement Unlocked (You got some numbers added to your other number)" with actually getting some cool unlockables.
Networker's absolutely right. You shouldn't naysay it until you see it. Virtually everything that's gotten people excited about GTA IV could have been presented via Home such as: Web pages, videos, podcasts, interviews, screenshots, wallpapers, themes, demos, etc. If you think that's all crap, then taken an objective second look at all the gaming media you see/read/hear and realize it could all be concentrated on a title-by-title basis from a Home space dedicated to that game.
BlueDubs 03-31-2008, 11:02 AM I can see home being released in june, and it is good that Rockstar are'nt forgetting about Sony just because Microsoft are flashing the cash.
Sinfulfate 03-31-2008, 04:31 PM Get the f*** off this website... because it's not "in game" either. <--- That's a joke to illustrate my point. Huh? I dont get your point here. Perhaps you should read my posts first?
You're being VERY close-minded about this. Companies are getting set to use the PS3 as a distribution method for game-specific info. You may very well find the latest GTA IV news in the GTA IV Home space, etc. You may very well find "Achievement-like" items in Home that blow away "Da-dink... Achievement Unlocked (You got some numbers added to your other number)" with actually getting some cool unlockables.Well with Rockstar's Social Club you can get all the latest info from Rockstars website and you don't have to exit out of GTA IV to do so. How much GTA news will there be in Fall for PS3? Lets not forget Home isn't even out yet and wont be till later in the year. If you can sign into Rockstars Social club on your pc and get all the latest info about GTA IV while playing it why would anyone want to visit a GTA IV home space months after the game came out?
Networker's absolutely right. You shouldn't naysay it until you see it. Virtually everything that's gotten people excited about GTA IV could have been presented via Home such as: Web pages, videos, podcasts, interviews, screenshots, wallpapers, themes, demos, etc. If you think that's all crap, then taken an objective second look at all the gaming media you see/read/hear and realize it could all be concentrated on a title-by-title basis from a Home space dedicated to that game. All that stuff could have(and I believe it is) been presented in the PSN Store/XBLM.
You obviously don't understand what I'm saying so let me explain it to you. I can be online in the bungie.net forums connected with all the Halo players while playing Halo 3. I cant play GTA IV on my PS3 and be in the GTA IV home space at the same time. That is the problem. Home is a separate "game".
rothbart 03-31-2008, 04:34 PM Home is a separate "game".
I understand what you're saying (if you're referring to using a PC and 360 at the same time), but you're using the word "game" just to irritate me. Like a bad chicken salad sandwich.
Sinfulfate 03-31-2008, 09:27 PM I understand what you're saying (if you're referring to using a PC and 360 at the same time), but you're using the word "game" just to irritate me. Like a bad chicken salad sandwich.
Actually I wasn't. I put it in quotes because it isn't a game but thats the only word I could think of at the time.
Anyway what would make these Home space ideas for games actually good is if these Home spaces were the online lobbies for games. So instead of going thru menus to find online games as soon as you hit online multiplayer in the main menu of say GTA IV it would pop you into GTA IV's Home space where you could just hang out or group up with other people. That right there would be sweet but Sony needs to release Home first before devs can really starting use home to enhance there game.
Ala Douche 04-01-2008, 08:02 AM Well with Rockstar's Social Club you can get all the latest info from Rockstars website and you don't have to exit out of GTA IV to do so. How much GTA news will there be in Fall for PS3? Lets not forget Home isn't even out yet and wont be till later in the year. If you can sign into Rockstars Social club on your pc and get all the latest info about GTA IV while playing it why would anyone want to visit a GTA IV home space months after the game came out?
All that stuff could have(and I believe it is) been presented in the PSN Store/XBLM.
You obviously don't understand what I'm saying so let me explain it to you. I can be online in the bungie.net forums connected with all the Halo players while playing Halo 3. I cant play GTA IV on my PS3 and be in the GTA IV home space at the same time. That is the problem. Home is a separate "game".
so playing a game and looking up news for it and looking through forums on a PC while playing the game is more practical than looking at it all while not playing?
now this is just me, but i've never personally been playing a game and thought, i need to see this game's community, but i don't want to exit the game... i'll just sign on to the website without exiting the game. i feel much better with it on pause.
i dunno, maybe i missed your point, but that's what it sounds like you're saying.
NoneOfYourBusiness 04-01-2008, 02:28 PM He is more then welcome to do that. But if this Home space is true, it will be a place for active PS3 users to discuss and learn about GTAVI. Need help with a mission? Ask someone who just completed it and is roaming home. On the fence whether to buy GTAVI (or any game for that matter), look through Home and find its space to learn more about it. Perhaps see posters, screenshots, actual character models, videos, demos etc.
In the gamer night thread, I realized gamer night would be so much easier for PS3 owners if Sarcastic Gamer could create its own space (probably at a fee) or if we could meet up somewhere specifc to discuss the events.
chris24680 04-01-2008, 03:19 PM i just thought of the best idea for home have characters from games walk around as NPC's you could even have them talk like those things the internet where you talk to robots they can tell you who they are and stuff about there game. you could have niko walking about and when you talk to him he would respond to you as niko from the game would.
Cam-Dog 04-01-2008, 10:20 PM i just thought of the best idea for home have characters from games walk around as NPC's you could even have them talk like those things the internet where you talk to robots they can tell you who they are and stuff about there game. you could have niko walking about and when you talk to him he would respond to you as niko from the game would.
That would really neat just have them walk around like a mmo npc.
It would also be cool if you could walk in that home space as the online character
you can make for gta online if they are still making that feature.
Sinfulfate 04-01-2008, 11:59 PM so playing a game and looking up news for it and looking through forums on a PC while playing the game is more practical than looking at it all while not playing?
now this is just me, but i've never personally been playing a game and thought, i need to see this game's community, but i don't want to exit the game... i'll just sign on to the website without exiting the game. i feel much better with it on pause.
i dunno, maybe i missed your point, but that's what it sounds like you're saying.
Ya you did. I'm saying that Home spaces make it so you can either hang out in the Home space or play the game. Well if those are your choices why would you want to hang out in GTA Home space instead of actually playing the game?
Its pretty much the biggest problem I see with Home which is that it takes me away from gaming.
BTW I think Rothbart brought up the news bit but the Rockstar Social Club is so much more than just news. Its pretty much worldwide leaderboards and tracks like everything you do in Libetry City. Rockstar will also be giving out special stuff to people who do special stuff in the game. I will most definitively have Rockstar's Social Club up in running my PC while I play GTA IV. I want to be first to get the Keys to the City from Rockstar :)
Its stuff like Rockstar's Social Club and Bungie.net that make Home not even needed. Minutes after I finish a halo 3 match I can have it up on bungie.net where anyone with a 360 can download it and watch it. All within minutes and you don't ever have to leave Halo 3 to do this.
As you can tell community is one my favorite things about gaming but actually playing the games is the best thing. The fact that these home spaces require me to choose between actually playing the game or hanging out with the community is stupid imo.
Sorry for the long post but it really annoys me that Sony has so much potential and good ideas but they go about them the wrong way.
rothbart 04-02-2008, 12:20 AM Sinfulfate... look at it this way... Home has the potential to bring you gaming news/media/etc. without leaving your console. Now admittedly you can already surf the web on your PS3 (either via the built-in browser or via Linux), but no matter what you're talking about here... (even the Rockstar Social Club) there will always be the potential for unique stuff to be offered via Home that simply won't have a counter for on other platforms. The fact that this info is related to a third party game is (to quite Martha Stewart, because frankly we don't quote her enough) "a good thing".
You'll still get GTA IV gameplay, and for someone so worried about things "getting in the way" of that, you should be happy. You don't HAVE to use Home. I don't care if you do or not... I don't care if you're excited or not either to be honest. But I just don't see how you take this as a negative.
And if another person chimes in with "this is a lousy substitute for proper DLC" I swear we're gonna turn this website around and start April Fool's day ALL OVER again... slap ma' fro!
Sinfulfate 04-02-2008, 12:57 AM Sinfulfate... look at it this way... Home has the potential to bring you gaming news/media/etc. without leaving your console. Now admittedly you can already surf the web on your PS3 (either via the built-in browser or via Linux), but no matter what you're talking about here... (even the Rockstar Social Club) there will always be the potential for unique stuff to be offered via Home that simply won't have a counter for on other platforms. The fact that this info is related to a third party game is (to quite Martha Stewart, because frankly we don't quote her enough) "a good thing".My psp and Ipod touch already give me all the gaming news/media etc anywhere/anytime I want.
You'll still get GTA IV gameplay, and for someone so worried about things "getting in the way" of that, you should be happy. You don't HAVE to use Home. I don't care if you do or not... I don't care if you're excited or not either to be honest. But I just don't see how you take this as a negative.
I agree you dont have to use Home but at the same time you dont HAVE to use the Playstation Network. But people use it anyway because the benefits of it are good and cant be found elsewhere. Thats how Home should be but it cant because the biggest and best PS3 community will always be the internet. When did I say GTA IV home space would be a negative? i do recall saying its useless since A. It wont release at the same time as GTA IV and B. Rockstar is creating its own "home" space for all GTA IV owners.
rothbart 04-02-2008, 01:17 AM My psp and Ipod touch already give me all the gaming news/media etc anywhere/anytime I want.
LOL! Okay. We've settled it. I don't have an iPod touch. You go ahead and don't use Home and I'll check it out and report back here (and we can compare notes... :wink2:)
When did I say GTA IV home space would be a negative? i do recall saying its useless since
Maybe we're misunderstanding each other. Let me ask for clarity... does "useless" fall into the "positive" or "negative" category? :lol: My bad if you said "useless" and I took it to mean "negative".
It wont release at the same time as GTA IV and B. Rockstar is creating its own "home" space for all GTA IV owners.
Okay? I won't use their website, I'm almost positive... I can't think of a single game I've ever routinely visited a website for. I mean even Halo 3 (and admittedly, I'm not a fan of the game but I'm a fan of technology) only held my interest for a couple visits.
We'll see. Maybe there are a lot of other lazy folks like me and if they're vegging out at 11:30pm slumped in their chair/couch, they're only a few buttons presses away rather than getting up, going over to their PC, going to the website, etc. Sure, some people will dig this and some people live in dorm rooms where all that requires turning their hear 20°, but I can't think that's everyone. ;)
Don't mistake me for saying I think the GTA IV Home space will be awesome/useful/whatever. I'm simply excited at the hint that a third party is interested in Home. I'd be more happy if this was (even vaguely) confirmed by Rockstar.
Dinosauria 04-03-2008, 09:11 PM Obviously any content on Home will be a PS3 exclusive so that's a moot point. It is cool that third party developers are actually gonna use it.
Home could be an excellent marketing tool, if the developers are willing to drop the coin to make the spaces.
Hopefully games sites in home will be available to everyone and not just the people who've already purchased the game otherwise Sony would be missing a great opportunity. I must admit I wouldn't be surprised if you could only access the areas if you've bought the game.
codinthepocket 04-03-2008, 09:18 PM very cool this combines the two things i love gta and sticking it to microsoft
You do know that GTA: SA was multi-platform, and the game was slightly better on the Xbox than the PS2? Microsoft won that one in my opinion...
*throws smoke grenade. Damn, it's a double agent smoke grenade. I'm still visible and the grenade has a 20 second delay before exploding into a very tiny ball of gas that might cover your pinkie toe... Throws a shoe across the thread. Chuck Norris, attack them with your third fist! *sigh. I do have too much spare time...**
Sinfulfate 04-03-2008, 09:48 PM Don't mistake me for saying I think the GTA IV Home space will be awesome/useful/whatever. I'm simply excited at the hint that a third party is interested in Home. I'd be more happy if this was (even vaguely) confirmed by Rockstar.
Well Epic has been interested in Home since last year for UT III. Too bad they can't do much with Home until its released. Sony needs to get on that.
rothbart 04-03-2008, 09:51 PM Well Epic has been interested in Home since last year for UT III. Too bad they can't do much with Home until its released. Sony needs to get on that.
They can do something with it before it's released... do you think nobody's going to create anything for it until it's done and released? They'll get started before it's released... maybe not all devs and certainly not for all games, but some will.
Sinfulfate 04-03-2008, 10:06 PM They can do something with it before it's released... do you think nobody's going to create anything for it until it's done and released? They'll get started before it's released... maybe not all devs and certainly not for all games, but some will.Of course people are going to create stuff before its released but all that stuff will more than likely be Home content only. Like Home spaces or whatever. IMO the best content with Home will be content that connects with the actual game. Say like a trophy view option in a game so you just click view trophies and it brings you straight to your trophy room in Home. Content that is actually on the game disc rather than in home itself. I don't see any devs adding any content like that until they know Home is already out.
rothbart 04-03-2008, 10:12 PM I think it's much less likely we'll be launching Home from within games (expecting to return to the game after exiting Home) than what's known to work now (launching games from Home, to return to Home when the game exits).
LiquidPenguin 04-04-2008, 09:04 AM If this home space offers stuff like what we've heard from the other home spaces (Resistance, Warhawk and Uncharted) I'll be happy. Getting news on the game and such is not really something I value, I see it more as a way devs can give you that little bit extra to further the enjoyment of your game and maybe promote it at the same time.
I would love if they gave us new little 2D GTA game (kinda like uncharted is doing) to promote the older 2D games that are said to be coming to PSN/XBLA. Shit like that would be awesome, like GTA London for free or something.
rothbart 04-04-2008, 10:21 AM I would love if they gave us new little 2D GTA game (kinda like uncharted is doing) to promote the older 2D games that are said to be coming to PSN/XBLA. Shit like that would be awesome, like GTA London for free or something.
Really? Those games are 100% free (from Rockstar no less) on the PC... I can't imagine people buying them on XBLA/PSN. They really pale in comparison to what the GTA name has become. I always liked the look and idea of overhead driving games, but they were very practical. Every time I'd gain any amount of speed, I'd simply run into something I couldn't see coming because it was offscreen until the last second.
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