Ok so we already know that there is a Pikmin game in development, however, today Miyamoto confirmed that a Mario and Zelda game are in the works.
http://kotaku.com/5029215/miyamoto-confirms-new-mario-zelda-pikmin-projects
That is the link.

Looks like they haven't forgot about the core.

Didn't Reggie or one of them already say that?

wow your title dosen't lie SWSilentkiller lol

but yeah is nice to hear an official confirmation on mario and zelda games.

wow your title dosen't lie SWSilentkiller lol:D


Looks like they haven't forgot about the core.

Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down...

Yes they said they were making a new zelda and mario at E3, as if anyone doubted it.

I wonder what the Mario game is gonna be?

I think the Mario title is going to be either Mario Tennis for the Wii or New Super Mario Bros. 2 for the DS(he never said it was going to be on the Wii). Of course they could also be working on a 2D Mario Wiiware game but I doubt that would happen. The Zelda game will probably be on the Wii feature Toon Link or Kid Link(kind of like Majora's Mask), I can't see them doing a sequal to Twilight Princess.

Because games of that nature take upwards of two or three years to make

This just sounds like him covering his back. These games may be a while yet, especially as At any given time, the team could be five to ten people :lol:

What I want him to make is super smash bro ds, but hey these are better then nothing.

I wouldn't expect a new Mario game for a couple of years. Galaxy just came out last December.

Also, we know a Mario, a Zelda and a Pikmin game are coming, but what system will they be for? If any of them are for the DS, then they will be completely useless to me.

Didn't Reggie or one of them already say that?

It's been said ages ago that the Mario and Zelda teams are hard at work.

It's been said ages ago that the Mario and Zelda teams are hard at work. Ages ago? Like...last tuesday or wednesday? Yeah, it does seem like we've heard this before... Oh, looking back, it seems as if on this site the source I've seen is this (http://kotaku.com/5026096/miyamoto-were-making-pikmin). I must've seen the new article somewhere else.

Perhaps it will be Super Mario All-Stars for the DS? If so, then it would make a great bundle.

What I want him to make is super smash bro ds, but hey these are better then nothing.

The controls 4 that would be awful

Hold your horses, the new Mario game might be 'New Super Mario Bros. 2', not something as big as Galaxy (I'm not going to get my hopes up for a huge title).
I'm gonna guess that the next Zelda title will be another Toon Link adventure, I doubt they'd throw out a follow up to Twilight Princess just yet.

I think a toon link adventure would be pretty good. Also, New Super Mario Bros. 2 would be a pretty big game considering the first one was awesome.

Mario Galaxy 2 please.
Leave the dead Zelda horse alone kthxbye

Leave the dead Zelda horse alone kthxbye

When did Epona die, I was not told of this.:lol:

Why do so many people hate Zelda games, sure TP wasn't as good as other Zelda games but the Zelda franchise is still considered one of the best series ever.

When did Epona die, I was not told of this.:lol:

Why do so many people hate Zelda games, sure TP wasn't as good as other Zelda games but the Zelda franchise is still considered one of the best series ever.It's because they keep repeating the same formula over and over again,

Forest temple, ice temple, fire temple
Ooh you collected three things!
Go to another 6 dungeons and collect another 6 things!
Fight Ganondorf,
The end.

I liked wind waker more than twilight princess, it introduced a lot more to the series than TP the okami rip-off.

It's because they keep repeating the same formula over and over again,

Forest temple, ice temple, fire temple
Ooh you collected three things!
Go to another 6 dungeons and collect another 6 things!
Fight Ganondorf,
The end.

I liked wind waker a lot more than twilight princess, it introduced a lot more to the series than TP the okami rip-off.

Yeah Wind Waker was better than Twilight Princess but Twilight Princess wasn't as bad as a lot of people said. Not all the Zelda games follow the same formula, look at Majora's Mask or Phantom Hourglass, both of those games are unique in there own way. If they were to do a sequel to TP I wouldn't be too upset as long as they did it similar to MM or PH. Also, to call TP the Okami rip-off is pretty harsh especially since they were both in development at the same time, just because Okami was released in Japan April 20, 2006(7 months before Twilight Princess) doesn't mean anything. Twilight Princess was developed for Gamecube and ported to the Wii, so it was probably ready to be shipped for the Gamecube halfway through the year but held back because of the release of the Wii.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a Wind Waker style game for the Wii, also I don't think a sequel for TP would work well because it only had one ending. What made WW and MM work was they technically are both sequels to OoT, MM for one ending WW to the other. So I really don't know how they would do a sequel to TW. Like I said before I wouldn't mind seeing a WW/PH sequel on the Wii (using the Wiimote as the wind waker would actually be kind of fun).

I liked wind waker more than twilight princess, it introduced a lot more to the series than TP the okami rip-off.

I agree with heyfling. Is it because they both had wolves? The gameplay was completely different. Story was completely different. Graphic style? WAY different. I could see someone saying Twilight Princess copied Ocarina of Time but Okami? That's a new one.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a Wind Waker style game for the Wii, also I don't think a sequel for TP would work well because it only had one ending. What made WW and MM work was they technically are both sequels to OoT, MM for one ending WW to the other. So I really don't know how they would do a sequel to TW. Like I said before I wouldn't mind seeing a WW/PH sequel on the Wii (using the Wiimote as the wind waker would actually be kind of fun).

We don't necessarily mean a followup to the story, just another one with the Link featured in Twilight Princess.
I'd like to see a 'New SMB 2'. Kept me occupied through MANY hours.
Hmmmm.... Conducting with the Wii-mote? Sounds heckuva lot of fun!

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a Wind Waker style game for the Wii, also I don't think a sequel for TP would work well because it only had one ending. What made WW and MM work was they technically are both sequels to OoT, MM for one ending WW to the other. So I really don't know how they would do a sequel to TW. Like I said before I wouldn't mind seeing a WW/PH sequel on the Wii (using the Wiimote as the wind waker would actually be kind of fun).

That would be stinkin' awesome. Cel Shaded Zelda + Wiimote = :thumbsup:

Mario Mows the Lawn perhaps? Or Mario Babysitting? The Legend of Zelda: The 100th Retrieval of the Master Sword?

I kid. I personally hope we get New Super Mario Bros 2. Anyways, I'm pretty sure I already heard this a few days before this thread was posted.

Actually now that I think about it why not introduce a completely new franchise to appeal to hardcore gamers, the did with Pikmin on the Gamecube, why not something new?

Actually now that I think about it why not introduce a completely new franchise to appeal to hardcore gamers, the did with Pikmin on the Gamecube, why not something new?

I do agree with what your saying, Nintendo needs to bring in a new franchise/genre to the Wii but I don't think Nintendo would do this, especially right now because they are trying to appeal to the casual/non gamer. They could also bring back an already existing series, like Mother or Kid Icarus, or even re-invent a series on the Wii, something like a Pokemon MMO.

I think Wii Sports is indicative of the kinds of new franchises Nintendo is going to bring to the Wii. Instead of introducing new core games and characters, they have obviously chosen to focus on the casual crowd. The core will still get Mario and Zelda games, but nothing new like Pikmin was for the Cube. That is unless they decide to turn Captain Rainbow into a franchise.

It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo was working on a new franchise, considering how secretive they usually are with their games. Still for all I know they could be working on a new Kid Icarus game.

Two quotes below from interview with Miyamoto. The Mario team is called the Galaxy team suggesting to me that the next game will be a Galaxy follow up.

The second quote about Zelda mentions that the team is still looking at ideas. Methinks that Zelda is a long way off :(

I'm playing Okami right now anyway. It's awesome

QUOTES:
http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/890/890276p1.html
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Miyamoto added, "Maybe the best thing for you to understand is that all of the leaders of those teams -- of the Mario team, of the Zelda team and of the Pikmin team -- all sit within 150 feet of my desk. The Galaxy team is the only one that's farther away -- they're in Tokyo. But I do have video conferencing with them."

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/890/890200p1.html
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"I don't necessarily think it will change that drastically, but I think that Zelda is a franchise that does need some big new unique ideas," he said. "And so the team right now is very focused on trying to find those ideas."

I do agree with what your saying, Nintendo needs to bring in a new franchise/genre to the Wii but I don't think Nintendo would do this, especially right now because they are trying to appeal to the casual/non gamer. They could also bring back an already existing series, like Mother or Kid Icarus, or even re-invent a series on the Wii, something like a Pokemon MMO.

Can the Wii even have a MNO?

Can the Wii even have a MNO?

I think it can since it has better hardware than the PS2 and PS2 had FFXI. I know that the Wii is getting Spore sometime next year, I realize it isn't a MMO but I am pretty sure it uses online information from other Spore games to expand your universe. Also I think the Wiimote's point and click controls would be perfect for an MMO since it is the closest thing to a mouse.

Can the Wii even have a MNO?
You mean MMO?

Hmmm...let's see:

1) It has WiFi
2) It has WiFi
3) Ad Infinitum

That alone should suffice. :thumbsup: But, if you're still not convinced, look at Animal Crossing. That game has four-player online play, MMO-style. It's totally possible.

If the 360 can't handle MMO's (Marvel Universe online) I seriously doubt the wii can.

If the 360 can't handle MMO's (Marvel Universe online) I seriously doubt the wii can.

The 360 has FFXI on it so I believe it can handle MMOs. I am pretty sure the Wii could handle an MMO, all Nintendo would really have to do is get a lot of dedicated servers for it. The Wii is almost perfect for an MMO because it has the biggest user base out of this generation of gaming(over 30 million consoles sold according to vgchartz) and if you brought out an MMO that almost everybody would want(something like Pokemon) you would have a WoW killer.

The 360 has FFXI on it so I believe it can handle MMOs. I am pretty sure the Wii could handle an MMO, all Nintendo would really have to do is get a lot of dedicated servers for it. The Wii is almost perfect for an MMO because it has the biggest user base out of this generation of gaming(over 30 million consoles sold according to vgchartz) and if you brought out an MMO that almost everybody would want(something like Pokemon) you would have a WoW killer.

Not to mention PSU.

Even the Gamecube had an MMO, Phantasy Star Online even though it was pretty much the Dreamcast one.

Not to mention PSU.

Even the Gamecube had an MMO, Phantasy Star Online even though it was pretty much the Dreamcast one.
Ahhh I has forgotten about PSO. Yeah, that basically proves that the Wii could handle an MMO. :D I wish they'd release PSO again for the Wii...even just a simple port that used the WiFi connection and USB keyboard. I hadn't played the first, so I'd take a direct port of the Gamecube version.

The 360 has FFXI on it so I believe it can handle MMOs. I am pretty sure the Wii could handle an MMO, all Nintendo would really have to do is get a lot of dedicated servers for it. The Wii is almost perfect for an MMO because it has the biggest user base out of this generation of gaming(over 30 million consoles sold according to vgchartz) and if you brought out an MMO that almost everybody would want(something like Pokemon) you would have a WoW killer.

It would not be a WoW killer, I would not want to play an MMO with Grandpa and some little kids, granted I would not want to play an MMO in the first place.

It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo was working on a new franchise, considering how secretive they usually are with their games. Still for all I know they could be working on a new Kid Icarus game.

It seems obvious they would be.
I played the demo in SSB: Brawl, and for an old school game? I liked it (although it was hard to control with a GC controller).

A Kid Icarus game would sell like crazy from all the copies of Brawl sold.

They could use the same aiming controls for the arrow used in Twilight Princess (maybe with use of the MotionPlus?).

Heck I'd buy it!

It would not be a WoW killer, I would not want to play an MMO with Grandpa and some little kids, granted I would not want to play an MMO in the first place.

If Nintendo released a Pokemon MMO on the Wii, it would more then likely have a bigger user base then WoW(making it a WoW killer). The reason I think it would have a bigger user base is because the Pokemon franchise is the second biggest video game franchise in the world, right behind Super Mario. If you look at Pokemon Pearl and Diamond, combined they have sold over 14 million copies worldwide. If everybody who bought a copy of Pearl and Diamond were to buy a copy of the Pokemon MMO that would be atleast 7 million copies sold for the Wii(some households could have more than one copy of the DS games), this doesn't even include the amount of users there would be online or the amount of casual/non-gamers who would buy the game.

Pokemon MMO would never out do WoW, Most of those Pokemon games are marketed towards little kids, cutting off most of the hardcore audience, though I admit their would people people interested, and pretty much all of the older audience. So that cuts down the market, now we consider how many parents want their kids on an MMO and how Nintendo works their online (which is the biggest obstacle, hell they still use friend codes). The WoW market would not look into it because of the source material and they will know what kind of players were in there. My point is it may seem good on paper, but with the market and the obstacles their would be a VERY slim chance it would be able to overtake WoW which has over ten million subscribers.

Pokemon MMO would never out do WoW, Most of those Pokemon games are marketed towards little kids, cutting off most of the hardcore audience, though I admit their would people people interested, and pretty much all of the older audience. So that cuts down the market, now we consider how many parents want their kids on an MMO and how Nintendo works their online (which is the biggest obstacle, hell they still use friend codes). The WoW market would not look into it because of the source material and they will know what kind of players were in there. My point is it may seem good on paper, but with the market and the obstacles their would be a VERY slim chance it would be able to overtake WoW which has over ten million subscribers.

I agree with you that Pokemon is still being marketed to kids but Pokemon isn't just a kids game and I know several people who are over 20 that still play pokemon(myself included). The whole reason to get the DS games was to battle with people online, the only problems with the DS games is that you need to know the people your playing(i.e. have their friend codes) and you don't gain ranks/experience through online battles. If Nintendo were to beef up it's online for one game(have dedicated servers) and take away friend codes they would be able to make this game.

Also, if you read my last post clearly you would have read my last post carefully you would have seen this:

if everybody who bought a copy of Pearl and Diamond were to buy a copy of the Pokemon MMO that would be atleast 7 million copies sold for the Wii(some households could have more than one copy of the DS games)

If 7 million copies were to sell, you would have more than enough users to beat WoW user base since a lot of families would have more than one account.

I read it, I just dismissed it as being retarded, mainly because that is a 7 million copy if, then your banking on people buying multiple copies, thats just not smart thinking. Most people that like MMOs like them because thye can level up and customize their character, those people would be underwhelmed by Pokemon, especially since all the new ones are rips off the old ones.

I read it, I just dismissed it as being retarded, mainly because that is a 7 million copy if, then your banking on people buying multiple copies, thats just not smart thinking. Most people that like MMOs like them because thye can level up and customize their character, those people would be underwhelmed by Pokemon, especially since all the new ones are rips off the old ones.

I am not banking on people buying multiple copies of the Pokemon MMO, I am saying that out of the 14 million+ copies of Pearl and Diamond sold there is a minimum of 7 million households that own those 2 DS games, making it at least 7 million copies sold from Pearl and Diamond customers.

Most people that like MMOs like them because thye can level up and customize their character,
It's Pokemon, you would be able to level up and customize your character(through which Pokemon you use), that is the whole point of the Pokemon games. If it is an MMO then you would be able to pick what your main character looks like.

those people would be underwhelmed by Pokemon, especially since all the new ones are rips off the old ones.

Pokemon games aren't rip offs of the older games, each game is similar but each one brings something new and interesting to the game. Saying that each Pokemon game rips off the older games is like saying each Final Fantasy game rips of older games in the series because they only change a few things per game.

It does too, you are probably the only one who believes it doesn't, look at the new pokemon and tell me how different they are from the older ones.

Let's try to keep this from turning into this thread..
http://sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5564

It does too, you are probably the only one who believes it doesn't, look at the new pokemon and tell me how different they are from the older ones.

As I stated before each game is similar but each game adds in new features(not including new Pokemon, new areas and new moves).

Pokemon Generation 1(red, blue and yellow)-the original games
Pokemon Generation 2(gold, silver and crystal)-added in time of day(day and night), gender, the ability to hold items and breeding
Pokemon Generation 3(ruby, sapphire, emerald, fire red and grass green)-added in Pokemon special abilities, Pokemon natures, Pokemon contests, and 2 vs 2 battles
Pokemon Generation 4(diamond and pearl)-added wi fi so you can battle anybody, there are other differences but I can't think of them now

Each game adds enough differences that they aren't they exact same game each time.

It does too, you are probably the only one who believes it doesn't, look at the new pokemon and tell me how different they are from the older ones.

I'm so sorry to say this.... BUT YOU FAIL.

There are, like, 500 Pokemon in the newer games (compared to the 150 in the the first generation).
There's online multiplayer and trading now.
The games have dozens of gym leaders, compared to the 8 or so in the older games.
The games have a whole bunch of side quests and tons of ways to enhance your Pokemon, such as berries.
There are more types of Pokemon, such as 'steel'.
There are hundreds of new moves, and ways to use them. There's a night and day element in the game.

I haven't bought a Pokemon game since Crystel and I knew these things.

I know It's not the manliest thing to be a Pokemon fan, but to say the Pokemon series hasn't changed at all is just silly. :thumbsup:

Let's try to keep this from turning into this thread..
http://sarcasticgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5564

I agree. Let's get it back on track, guys...

As I stated before each game is similar but each game adds in new features(not including new Pokemon, new areas and new moves).

Pokemon Generation 1(red, blue and yellow)-the original games
Pokemon Generation 2(gold, silver and crystal)-added in time of day(day and night), gender, the ability to hold items and breeding
Pokemon Generation 3(ruby, sapphire, emerald, fire red and grass green)-added in Pokemon special abilities, Pokemon natures, Pokemon contests, and 2 vs 2 battles
Pokemon Generation 4(diamond and pearl)-added wi fi so you can battle anybody, there are other differences but I can't think of them now

Each game adds enough differences that they aren't they exact same game each time.

I'm so sorry to say this.... BUT YOU FAIL.

There are, like, 500 Pokemon in the newer games (compared to the 150 in the the first generation).
There's online multiplayer and trading now.
The games have dozens of gym leaders, compared to the 8 or so in the older games.
The games have a whole bunch of side quests and tons of ways to enhance your Pokemon, such as berries.
There are more types of Pokemon, such as 'steel'.
There are hundreds of new moves, and ways to use them. There's a night and day element in the game.

I haven't bought a Pokemon game since Crystel and I knew these things.

I know It's not the manliest thing to be a Pokemon fan, but to say the Pokemon series hasn't changed at all is just silly. :thumbsup:

ONline battling and trading was done in the original though it wsn't online you could battle/trade with friends, Side quests were always there, listing new pokemon is pointless because like I said they are just either rips of the old ones or just plain retarded, all the new things do NOT warrant a new game, they just milk the franchise and throw something in so gullible people think "oh look it's a brand new pokemon game".

But they are right about not bringing this topic into whether pokemon should die.

ONline battling and trading was done in the original though it wsn't online you could battle/trade with friends, Side quests were always there, listing new pokemon is pointless because like I said they are just either rips of the old ones or just plain retarded, all the new things do NOT warrant a new game, they just milk the franchise and throw something in so people think "oh look it's a brand new pokemon game"

So online trading was always there.... without online? That's a bad comback.
Online play makes trading COMLETELY different, online enhances almost every game, you know that.
I meant that the side quests were more a-plenty, that adds on to the point about more Pokemon.
So what if they look 'retarded', they still add tons off replay value which made it better than all the other games.

About statement you made about adding some new stuff to a game and calling it a new one... isn't that what every sequel is?

Take the Halo 3 for example. They added some new maps, some new game modes and some new weapons and called it a sequel.

Take Call of Duty 4 for example. They made it a new setting, fine tuned some things and called it a sequel.

Take Grand Theft Auto 4 for example. They changed the city and the characters and called it a new game.

Although all of those are good games, if I use your logic they don't really sound all that much of an improvement....

:thumbsup:

Now... Can we please get back to Mario and Zelda?

Yes,

GET BACK ON TRACK, WILL YA DARNIT?!

Anyway, does anybody think that the Zelda game will be like the description in that one thread Mikey made?

I think it would be cool if there was a steampunk Zelda game.

Anyway, does anybody think that the Zelda game will be like the description in that one thread Mikey made?

I think it would be cool if there was a steampunk Zelda game.

I don't think they would make a steam punk Zelda game because most of the loyal Zelda fans would probably be disappointed. I think if Nintendo were ever to make a steam punk title, they would give it a new franchise name. I agree with most people that the Zelda franchise needs to change the formula a little bit, kind of in the direction that Majora's Mask went(base it outside of Hyrule). Also, I think they need to bring in new weapons/spells since most of the time you get the same weapons over and over again.

while never entering dungeons
What is it with Hyrule and it's dungeons?

I don't think they would make a steam punk Zelda game because most of the loyal Zelda fans would probably be disappointed. I think if Nintendo were ever to make a steam punk title, they would give it a new franchise name. I agree with most people that the Zelda franchise needs to change the formula a little bit, kind of in the direction that Majora's Mask went(base it outside of Hyrule). Also, I think they need to bring in new weapons/spells since most of the time you get the same weapons over and over again.

Yeah...they did say that the series is going to undergo some fundamental changes. I hope that the changes include the new weapons/spells you're talking about...and I could even go for a kick-butt magic system. I mean, right now your "Magic Power" is only good to fire magic arrows and use a few key magic items...but we don't have any spells at all. Granted, OoT had stuff like Din's Fire, but those have long since been removed.

Come on! I want magic! Keep link as the main char, though. I couldn't bear to see someone else in his place.

while never entering dungeons
What is it with Hyrule and it's dungeons?
I say keep the dungeons. While it's kinda hard to explain why there are so many underground areas that follow the same formula (Solve what puzzles you can, beat miniboss and get item, solve way too many new puzzles related to newly acquired item, boss) it's a classic Zelda thing that doesn't need redoing at all. It would be like getting rid of the turn-based battle system in the Pokemon series...or the Gyms. Or "Tackle". Or...you get the point.

I want steampunk!

Though I know it will never happen, it would be awesome if they made a direct sequel to Twilight Princess. Especially if Colin was older and kicked ass. That would be cool.

So online trading was always there.... without online? That's a bad comback.
Online play makes trading COMLETELY different, online enhances almost every game, you know that.
I meant that the side quests were more a-plenty, that adds on to the point about more Pokemon.
So what if they look 'retarded', they still add tons off replay value which made it better than all the other games.

About statement you made about adding some new stuff to a game and calling it a new one... isn't that what every sequel is?

Take the Halo 3 for example. They added some new maps, some new game modes and some new weapons and called it a sequel.

Take Call of Duty 4 for example. They made it a new setting, fine tuned some things and called it a sequel.

Take Grand Theft Auto 4 for example. They changed the city and the characters and called it a new game.

Although all of those are good games, if I use your logic they don't really sound all that much of an improvement....

:thumbsup:

Owned your point in the other thread, take it there.

As fr as Zelda I am comfortable to sit back and see what they do, they always keep me interested.

Though I know it will never happen, it would be awesome if they made a direct sequel to Twilight Princess. Especially if Colin was older and kicked ass. That would be cool.
Yeah, it would..

When do you guys think the Zelda game is coming out? 2009? 2010? 2011?!

Yeah, it would..

When do you guys think the Zelda game is coming out? 2009? 2010? 2011?!

If I had to guess I would say 2009, 2010 at the latest.

If I had to guess I would say 2009, 2010 at the latest.

I'm gonna say 2010. It seems reasonable. Think about Twilight Princess; it took several YEARS to get out.

I'm gonna say 2010. It seems reasonable. Think about Twilight Princess; it took several YEARS to get out.

but remember that it took that long since they had to port it for the wii,it took longer because in TP gamecube version link uses his left arm for the sword,meanwhile on the wii version he used his right arm.

I have been thinking about their excuse that long games take a long time to develop, but here is my reasoning:

For the most part, Nintendo teams have both Wii and DS teams within them (2 mario teams, one working on Wii and one on DS0, so here is what I think Nintendo should do, release a first party Nintendo game every 3-4 months, perhaps alternating between the Wii and the DS.

This sounds odd but think about this, if Nintendo gives us Mario Wii, and then 4 months later Zelda DS, and then 4 months later Metroid Wii, an then Kirby, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, maybe throw in a retro remake like Punch-out!! or Kid Icarus, Starfox, Pokemon. And if they release a new game for the different series they have every 2 years, then each seperate team has 4 years to make their new game, which is more than most developers get.


Now, of course, that would never happen, but I mean, that would be awesome wouldn't it? Good on Miyamoto for confirming things that we already knew.

Ok so we already know that there is a Pikmin game in development, however, today Miyamoto confirmed that a Mario and Zelda game are in the works.
http://kotaku.com/5029215/miyamoto-confirms-new-mario-zelda-pikmin-projects
That is the link.

Looks like they haven't forgot about the core.

Yeah, Pikmin!!! Olimar rules!!!

I am curious about a new Mario game. i mean after space how much bigger can you get.