The hubub around SSBB has gone away, and it's fanbase is left wanting more...

So what characters, third or first party, do you want to see in the next Smash Bros. game?

I would like Lanky Kong, Skull Kid, Knuckles...the list goes on and on...

Who do you want to see?

Lanky Kong? I actually forgot about him. Well anyway I would like to see Mega Man, he was my favorite in Marvel VS Capcom 2.

First off, SSBB killed the franchise as far as I'm concerned. After the story mode and a couple of rounds with friends, I just didn't have any interest left in playing it. And my friends, who've been following the series since the first game, felt the same way.

The only way I'd be interested in such a game is if it grew out of Nintendo exclusives. Really, how much deeper into the Nintendo franchises do you want them to go to bring more obscure characters?

I think they passed that threshold in the latest installment. If, and this is a very big if, major franchise owners followed Sega and Konami's lead and worked on adding more characters into the next SSB installment (to be a multiplatform release) which includes all the familiar characters from franchises such as Halo, Gears of War, Resistance, Uncharted, etc... and cut back on Nintendo characters so that only the most significant and recognizable remain (think Mario, Luigi, Link, Zelda, Fox, and a character or two from each major franchise.) Also, they should make it darker. If you'll have dark characters, have a dark game.

Before you dismiss it as a ridiculous idea, consider this: Each character would have a signature stage, as well as some unique stages. Each stage will represent the world where the character comes from, including a unique weapon set. The weapon sets can be customized and mixed into custom "files" which can be pulled up in any level.

The story mode would involve heavy fan fiction elements of the barriers between the gaming worlds starting to collapse, and the characters (each with a unique story which has the character fight with some other characters against other characters.) In the end, the survivors would have to face a terrifying evil entity that has the power to destroy all of them. All survivors will have to put aside their differences and attack the final boss at once, many of them falling in battle. Your character, on the other hand, has to fight its final form and defeat it to undo the damage it has done. Cue the final cutscene and the end credits, after which a few characters who would never fit together actually have some sort of interaction (think: Mario is chilling out with Marcus Fenix on the edge of Mount Olympus while Kratos moves ahead to do his thing. Insert witty scene here.)

That would be the game of the year any year it comes out. Oh, and Duke Nukem will probably make an appearance.

Waluigi. Its nintys best dang character (even if they didnt really make him)

Viewtiful Joe, 'nuff said

I'd like to see a custom character. But if they did do that, it would've failed and people would not like the game even more.

All the characters in Brawl (mainly because I'm pwn with Snake) Master Chief, Kratos Marcus Fenix, Doc Adams (in comic form), Arbiter, Gordon Freeman, Joe Montana, Bill Gates, Jack Thompson, and Carlos Mencia.

Nintendo charcaters and characters from a Nintendo console only, bud!

:thumbsup:

Nintendo charcaters and characters from a Nintendo console only, bud!

:thumbsup:Yeah random, sheesh. Pretty much every major nintendo character has been in it already, The Jet Set Gemini characters will be next :D

The Battletoads, Banjo and King K. Rool. I realize they are Rare characters, but I can dream.

Roxas from Kingdom Hearts, Cecil from Final Fantasy IV, Alph from Luminous Ark, and bring Mewtwo back.

Megaman(original or X) and Zero, Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia, Travis Touchdown, Zack and Wiki, the main Character from MadWorld and Vivi(Black Mage) from Final Fantasy

Waluigi. Its nintys best dang character (even if they didnt really make him)

Waluigi is in Brawl although not as a playable character. I really don't like him as a character, he is just too tall and lanky. Also, he was only created because the developers of Mario Tennis 64 thought they needed someone to be Luigi's opposite even though he has never been feature in any non sports Mario titles.

First off, SSBB killed the franchise as far as I'm concerned. After the story mode and a couple of rounds with friends, I just didn't have any interest left in playing it. And my friends, who've been following the series since the first game, felt the same way.

The only way I'd be interested in such a game is if it grew out of Nintendo exclusives. Really, how much deeper into the Nintendo franchises do you want them to go to bring more obscure characters?

I think they passed that threshold in the latest installment. If, and this is a very big if, major franchise owners followed Sega and Konami's lead and worked on adding more characters into the next SSB installment (to be a multiplatform release) which includes all the familiar characters from franchises such as Halo, Gears of War, Resistance, Uncharted, etc... and cut back on Nintendo characters so that only the most significant and recognizable remain (think Mario, Luigi, Link, Zelda, Fox, and a character or two from each major franchise.) Also, they should make it darker. If you'll have dark characters, have a dark game.

Before you dismiss it as a ridiculous idea, consider this: Each character would have a signature stage, as well as some unique stages. Each stage will represent the world where the character comes from, including a unique weapon set. The weapon sets can be customized and mixed into custom "files" which can be pulled up in any level.

The story mode would involve heavy fan fiction elements of the barriers between the gaming worlds starting to collapse, and the characters (each with a unique story which has the character fight with some other characters against other characters.) In the end, the survivors would have to face a terrifying evil entity that has the power to destroy all of them. All survivors will have to put aside their differences and attack the final boss at once, many of them falling in battle. Your character, on the other hand, has to fight its final form and defeat it to undo the damage it has done. Cue the final cutscene and the end credits, after which a few characters who would never fit together actually have some sort of interaction (think: Mario is chilling out with Marcus Fenix on the edge of Mount Olympus while Kratos moves ahead to do his thing. Insert witty scene here.)

That would be the game of the year any year it comes out. Oh, and Duke Nukem will probably make an appearance.

Aside from the call to make it dark, I think you have a damn good point. I think the Smash Bros. franchise is effectively over now.

Now if they wanted to do a spin-off and work with the Embassy mode as the main game, that could be cool, but it clearly needs work to make it as that.

Waluigi is in Brawl although not as a playable character. I really don't like him as a character, he is just too tall and lanky. Also, he was only created because the developers of Mario Tennis 64 thought they needed someone to be Luigi's opposite even though he has never been feature in any non sports Mario titles.

I know... and hes awesome anyway. Hes a cartoonised silent movie villan and ironicly has a great voice pack. "Waluigi number one, nyer!"

I'd like to see a custom character. But if they did do that, it would've failed and people would not like the game even more.

Waluigi. Its nintys best dang character (even if they didnt really make him)

I wouldn't say the Nintendo's best, but I do love me some Waluigi. I always use him in the Mario Party games, Mario Kart, etc.

why does everyone hate brawl, i liked it alot

why does everyone hate brawl, i liked it alot

I don't hate it. It was a great game. I just think it should have been called Super Smash Bros. Melee.5

I'd like to see a custom character. But if they did do that, it would've failed and people would not like the game even more.

I'm really surprised they didn't make a Mii character that uses your Mii with it's own move set involving sports or whatever.

I'm really surprised they didn't make a Mii character that uses your Mii with it's own move set involving sports or whatever.

Ya but what would it's speical moves be? Another factor brought into it. Bad idea. My bad

Volvagia, the subterranean lava dragon from Ocarina of Time. Can you imagine the awesomeness? He should at least be an assist trophy.

^This.



I want to see Mega Man, Simon Belmont, and Isaac. Kratos would also be a total badass on Smash Bros. After games like Wii Music put Sony and Microsoft out of business, I'd love to see Nintendo get the God of War games and put him in there.

this is kind of off topic, but as characters go, I can't believe they had Ridley as a boss and then Meta Ridley but they didn't put Kraid in. I want slippy as a character.

My list:

Tingle
Plusle & Minun (Supposedly they were coded in but didn't make the final cut, so this isn't too much of a stretch...)
Mii
Midna & Wolf Link (In my opinion, they should have been in Brawl)
Someone from The World Ends With You (Neku, Beat, Shiki, Minamimoto...the list goes on!)
More Pokémon!
More Sonic characters (Tails, Shadow, Knuckles)
Something from Animal Crossing (Tom Nook, Resetti, or the boy/girl character)
Cloud or Sephiroth (FFIV was on a Nintendo system at some point, right?)

And the last one...
Character DLC System, even if it were a paid feature. I'd love to be able to constantly download new characters, and this would greatly improve the lifespan of the game if a new character was released every few months.

Banjo Kazooie.

third party megaman 1st uh well they have kirby characters and now they just need more metroid characters if we have toon link why no dark samus?

I dunno about you guys but I thought Brawl was awesome. It also did very well with the reviewers. I still play it with my girlfriend all the time.

I think the whole appeal of the smash bros series is it's lack of seriousness. If you introduced xbox characters into the series, the series would tank. It might as well be entitled "Super Smash Bros: Soul Caliber" if you did that. I'd rather have a game that stands out with it's own appeal than just another fighting game.

Downloadable characters would be pretty sick, as long as they don't abuse it by not including new characters with the game.

And they DEFINITELY need to work on the custom stage builder. There are way too many limitations in the stage builder for brawl. There are only so many ways you can arrange the five or six different blocks they give you. You should be able to throw in props and textures from the built-in stages and make new ones however you want.

As for new characters, I'd love to see some more add-ins from the old nintendo RPGs. I was totally psyched about being able to play Ness since the first SSB. Edgar from FF6 would be pretty cool, whipping out his drills and chainsaws and soundblasters. Or Crono from CT, unleashing ultima as his super smash attack! Poo from Earthbound. Ownage.

The hubub around SSBB has gone away, and it's fanbase is left wanting more...

So what characters, third or first party, do you want to see in the next Smash Bros. game?

I would like Lanky Kong, Skull Kid, Knuckles...the list goes on and on...

Who do you want to see?

I would prefer characters that weren't just a bunch of shitty clones, thank you very much.

I think they should focus a bit more on good gameplay as opposed to adding new characters.

Look at the Sonic franchise: Sonic Unleashed finally got a lot of things right that the previous game was lacking and only featured four characters from the series.

I believe Smash Bros should do the same to reinvent itself as the good fighting game everyone knows it can be.

I would prefer characters that weren't just a bunch of shitty clones, thank you very much.
Aside from the three Fox-based characters in Brawl, the rest had their own unique moveset; no clones. Can anyone name a single clone aside from the Fox trifecta? (and even then, Wolf isn't much of a clone)



I think they should focus a bit more on good gameplay as opposed to adding new characters. Uh oh, here it comes...

Look at the Sonic franchise: Sonic Unleashed finally got a lot of things right that the previous game was lacking and only featured four characters from the series. Comparison to Sonic, a totally different game with a totally different backstory...and lines himself up for the final punch...

I believe Smash Bros should do the same to reinvent itself as the good fighting game everyone knows it can be.There we have it, ladies and gentlemen! Someone who doesn't like Brawl's basic formula but doesn't realize that it's a hit-or-miss game and that it's never going to change; it will only be slowly perfected and tweaked.

Sorry to say it, but it's true. The whole point of the Smash Bros. series is the tried-and-true formula that made the original and Melee such huge successes. There are plenty of new additions to the game besides new characters, and the comparison to Sonic: Unleashed is totally unnecessary; the two are totally different games. Sonic can get by with having only four characters; it's not the kind of game that relies on a diverse set of fighters. Smash Bros. Brawl is already a great fighting game. If you don't like it, then you won't like any of the versions that succeed it either. If you want your fighting fix, look at other consoles with other games. Street Fighter IV, Soul Caliber , Mortal Kombat: Kill Some More Dudes...the list goes on!

Sorry if I come across as mean, but I can't think of how else to put it.



[i]Edit: Can't believe I skipped over this one!
I think the whole appeal of the smash bros series is it's lack of seriousness. If you introduced xbox characters into the series, the series would tank. It might as well be entitled "Super Smash Bros: Soul Caliber" if you did that. I'd rather have a game that stands out with it's own appeal than just another fighting game. Exactly. I love their criteria of "Must have been in at least one game on a Nintendo console" for choosing characters for just that reason. I don't want to see Master Chief...and Snake was pushing it a little.

Downloadable characters would be pretty sick, as long as they don't abuse it by not including new characters with the game. Yeah, I hope they wouldn't abuse it. :D And actually, I don't think I'd like to see a DL system after all. If you think about it, part of the fun of the games is getting good with the characters you have. If you are constantly being tossed new characters to use, a few things could happen:

1) We'd try out every new one, and therefore not be able to get better with the ones that came on the disc.

2) We'd stick with the ones on the disc, and not use the new ones at all...which totally defeats the purpose of the system.

3) Say I want to go play at a friend's house, and they don't have the latest DLC. Uh oh! I've only gotten good with the new character! Now the DLC system has cut into the social aspect of it.

Not gonna happen, probably (and hopefully), and I can't say that I'm upset anymore. :lol:

And they DEFINITELY need to work on the custom stage builder. There are way too many limitations in the stage builder for brawl. There are only so many ways you can arrange the five or six different blocks they give you. You should be able to throw in props and textures from the built-in stages and make new ones however you want.
Agreed. Although, you can unlock a lot more pieces if you make more stages. Also, there are a lot more than 5-6 blocks to start with. In all, with everything unlocked, I'd say you have a good 30 or so pieces. I haven't used it in a while, so I couldn't say for certain.

As for new characters, I'd love to see some more add-ins from the old nintendo RPGs. I was totally psyched about being able to play Ness since the first SSB. Edgar from FF6 would be pretty cool, whipping out his drills and chainsaws and soundblasters. Or Crono from CT, unleashing ultima as his super smash attack! Poo from Earthbound. Ownage.
Sounds good to me! :thumbsup: Cross your fingers and wait for the next Nintendo system!

I agree with Skititlez with focusing on gameplay to an extent. They definitely need to focus on gameplay more so that it has that competitive factor that was so dominant in Melee. It's what separates gamers from the mainstream. You guys may like what Nintendo has done, but I'm not a huge fan of playing a game for a year, and having some random person play it for the first time and be up to my skill level within 1 hour.

Now don't get me wrong, I have a great deal of fun from time-to-time with Brawl, and I'm all for a large set of characters, but I want an equal amount of awesome, competitive gameplay, if you catch my drift.

shadow the hedgehog,

he isn't new but, give ganon his own moveset omg, ur cramping falcon's style

and lono, i would so main lono

Although, you can unlock a lot more pieces if you make more stages. Also, there are a lot more than 5-6 blocks to start with. In all, with everything unlocked, I'd say you have a good 30 or so pieces. I haven't used it in a while, so I couldn't say for certain.

Well, I was exaggerating a bit. But it is kind of a pain to have to make dozens of grind stages to unlock the new pieces. And it'd be nice to be able to throw in more special effects, like lasers shooting from the sky or that scary monster thing from... eh... whatever that city stage is.

As for the character downloads... isn't that the same kind of thing that happens when new maps get released for shooters? Yes, I know... different genre, but still. You download the new maps, you get to know them pretty good, and yes, you focus less on the old maps but the new ones add variety. And if your friend doesn't have the new maps, you make him download them :P

Banjo Kazooie.

Like that could EVER happen.

Oh and characters I would want to see in the next smash bros... Umm K. Rool?

Yeah that's it.

I agree with Skititlez with focusing on gameplay to an extent. They definitely need to focus on gameplay more so that it has that competitive factor that was so dominant in Melee. It's what separates gamers from the mainstream.
What's so different about Brawl from Melee? They've just tweaked the fighting system to make it better, and removed a few of the glitch exploits.

You guys may like what Nintendo has done, but I'm not a huge fan of playing a game for a year, and having some random person play it for the first time and be up to my skill level within 1 hour.
Yeah...that's either an exaggeration or you're just not that great with this game. Or they're just naturally gifted with these sorts of games. I've had that happen before too, but I didn't really care.

Now don't get me wrong, I have a great deal of fun from time-to-time with Brawl, and I'm all for a large set of characters, but I want an equal amount of awesome, competitive gameplay, if you catch my drift.Every year on my birthday, I have about 7-8 people over and we'll play Brawl all day long. The gameplay IS awesome and competetive, especially once you get REALLY good at it.

Well, I was exaggerating a bit. But it is kind of a pain to have to make dozens of grind stages to unlock the new pieces. And it'd be nice to be able to throw in more special effects, like lasers shooting from the sky or that scary monster thing from... eh... whatever that city stage is.

As for the character downloads... isn't that the same kind of thing that happens when new maps get released for shooters? Yes, I know... different genre, but still. You download the new maps, you get to know them pretty good, and yes, you focus less on the old maps but the new ones add variety. And if your friend doesn't have the new maps, you make him download them :P
Ah, maps. Had forgotten about maps. I'm all for map DLC, just not for new characters. :lol:

Cloud or Sephiroth (FFIV was on a Nintendo system at some point, right?)


Neither Cloud nor Sephiroth are in FFIV. It gets confusing because of Japan/US releases, since Japan had far more on the Famicom/Super Famicom system, but Cloud and Sephiroth were in FFVII, which was released in 1997 on the original Playstation, then later for the PC. It was originally intended for the yet-released N64, but the old cartridge style limited how much info they could put on it. That was pretty much the end for original FF titles on Nintendo systems.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII

FFIII(VI in Japan) would have some great chars for Brawl, though - Cyan, Shadow, Gau...

I agree with what you said (Ploogle) about the other stuff, even about this game being hit-or-miss, and a large part of it is up to the individual. I loved Brawl, but none of my in-laws want to play anything but Mario Kart Wii, and they're the only people I Wii with. We played it for an hour and then no one wanted to keep going, even though the matches were pretty even.

Neither Cloud nor Sephiroth are in FFIV. It gets confusing because of Japan/US releases, since Japan had far more on the Famicom/Super Famicom system, but Cloud and Sephiroth were in FFVII, which was released in 1997 on the original Playstation, then later for the PC. It was originally intended for the yet-released N64, but the old cartridge style limited how much info they could put on it. That was pretty much the end for original FF titles on Nintendo systems.

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII

FFIII(VI in Japan) would have some great chars for Brawl, though - Cyan, Shadow, Gau... D'oh! I meant VII! :lol: Seven...Siven...IV...eh?

I agree with what you said (Ploogle) about the other stuff, even about this game being hit-or-miss, and a large part of it is up to the individual. I loved Brawl, but none of my in-laws want to play anything but Mario Kart Wii, and they're the only people I Wii with. We played it for an hour and then no one wanted to keep going, even though the matches were pretty even.
Agreement much!

i think it would be awesome if Super Smash Bros mixed with Celbrity Deathmatch and we got some of the people from that game such as, Marilyn Manson, Tommy Lee, Ron Jeremy and so on

Jack Frost... the Atlus icon character... and if you want to be a REAL freak about it, make Nyx from Persona 3 a hidden boss fight somewhere.

What's so different about Brawl from Melee? They've just tweaked the fighting system to make it better, and removed a few of the glitch exploits.

not true. They fixed a lot of broken characters, but there are still alot more. (sonics final smash is broken, luigi is ridiculous) They also toned down all of the old characters a bit too much, making them not as fun :(

also:

tripping.

not true. They fixed a lot of broken characters, but there are still alot more. (sonics final smash is broken, luigi is ridiculous) They also toned down all of the old characters a bit too much, making them not as fun :(

also:

tripping.

1) Yeah, some of those Final Smashes were pretty weird/messed up/lame. Not saying it's a PERFECT game!
2) Totally. Sheik for one isn't nearly as agile and easy to pwn with. I can't think of any more at the moment, but I do agree with you a bit.
3) Tripping? What do you mean?

I sense a severe lack of Captain N: The Game Master being suggested in this thread.

What about someone like Aero: The Acro-Bat? Even Bomberman might be fun.

I still am holding out hope for Captain N though.

I want Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo to collaborate and put all their characters in one game. I would be ready to sell my ps3 for that game, then buy a new one to actually play it.

D'oh! I meant VII! :lol: Seven...Siven...IV...eh?
Agreement much!

Ah, that makes more sense. :) I can see the train of thought there. No matter what numeral you put on it, it was an awesome game. I can see that one being a DS or VC port at some point.

I want Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo to collaborate and put all their characters in one game. I would be ready to sell my ps3 for that game, then buy a new one to actually play it.

Not a chance of that happening, and frankly I can't say I'm upset! :lol: I don't want Mario to fight Master Chief and Ratchet & Clank.

Sephiroth against Mario would be amazing, come on.

Sephiroth against Mario would be amazing, come on.

Darn! Sephiroth WASN'T on any Nintendo consoles, was he? :sad: Was Snake? I don't recall.

Darn! Sephiroth WASN'T on any Nintendo consoles, was he? :sad: Was Snake? I don't recall.Snake was in a remake of metal gear on the gamecube, Sephiroth wasn't iirc

Snake was in a remake of metal gear on the gamecube, Sephiroth wasn't iirc

Darn! Ah well, we can always hope for Cloud! (He was on Kingdom Hearts, Chain of Memories for the GBA)

3) Tripping? What do you mean?

nintendo added a feature where randomly your character will stumble and fall on their ass. its completely random and overall is just a huge pain in the ass.

Snake was in a remake of metal gear on the gamecube, Sephiroth wasn't iirc

Snake was also in Metal Gear on the NES.

nintendo added a feature where randomly your character will stumble and fall on their ass. its completely random and overall is just a huge pain in the ass.

Never noticed this at all.

Never noticed this at all.

Its only for a split second because you can move out of it so quickly but if you look closely on you character you would see it on the ground looking the same as if you held down your shield too long, that is tripping but you can get out of it quickly

google tripping...

google tripping...

First result: Psychedelic Experience (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience).

nintendo added a feature where randomly your character will stumble and fall on their ass. its completely random and overall is just a huge pain in the ass.

Agreed. I'm best with Sonic usually, (a character where speed is the highest stat) and tripping ruins everything I do.

I personally have had ZERO experience whatsoever with this "tripping" mechanic. I wasn't aware that it even existed before this thread, and therefore must continue to doubt its existence! :thumbsup:

I stopped playing regular brawl and been playing Brawl + (homebrew mod) it helps the game more

I personally have had ZERO experience whatsoever with this "tripping" mechanic. I wasn't aware that it even existed before this thread, and therefore must continue to doubt its existence! :thumbsup:

google "brawl tripping"

I totaly forgot Midna and Wolf Link, that would be awesome, and if they got added, DEFFINATLY add Zant, cause he was kewl, imo...well...before the boss battle...

ALSO

Cant belive I have never heard anyone else recomend them, but Jessie and James from Pokemon would have made a good Ice Climbers clone even, let alone, original characters.